Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)

[zygalski]

Deniers want

Edited by zygalski on Friday 11th January 05:39

[durbster]

[anonymous-user]

Turbocalypse Now

On a car forum in 2019, PHers take a perilous and increasingly hallucinatory journey upriver to find Turbobloke and his cult, a once-promising scientist, a boiler engineer, a university professor and other pretend boffins who have reportedly gone completely mad.

[gadgetmac]

Diderot said:

gadgetmac said:

Diderot said:

gadgetmac said:

I think we are all curious to know the answer to quite a few questions.

For instance I'm still waiting to hear what the link is between the RS and TATA.

Hey ho.

https://royalsociety.org/about-us/funding-finances/support-us/

Yes, I get that, but where's the corruption/subterfuge/skulduggery/fraud etc?

Who mentioned 'corruption/subterfuge/skulduggery'fraud etc'? Not me. You've already falsely accused me of claiming to be a scientist, don't now drag me into one of your conspiracy fantasies as well; can't you get one of your zealous believer mate to give you a hand. Job 1 speaks of a decent sort of chap.

Then just what the hell are you going on about with RS and TATA?

You make some kind of accusation but won't spell it out and then run around shouting that you're not accusing anybody of anything.

And you say you're a scientist?!?!

Until I see evidence to the contrary you are no scientist. Your not even a student of the sciences, the last sentence in your post makes that so obvious. I suspect you are a Walter Mitty type wannabe professor/scientist.

Edited by gadgetmac on Thursday 10th January 08:42

[gadgetmac]

El stovey said:

Turbocalypse Now

On a car forum in 2019, PHers take a perilous and increasingly hallucinatory journey upriver to find Turbobloke and his cult, a once-promising scientist, a boiler engineer, a university professor and other pretend boffins who have reportedly gone completely mad.

I never accept that they are who they say they are on an internet forum.

Diderot, a University Professor? You're having a laugh. If he's a University Professor I'm an Astronaut.

Who's the 'once promising scientist' on the denier side?

Edited by gadgetmac on Thursday 10th January 08:44

[anonymous-user]

gadgetmac said:

You've got to stop accepting that they are who they say they are on an internet forum.

Diderot, a University Professor? You're having a laugh. If he's a University Professor I'm an Astronaut.

Who's the 'once promising scientist' on the denier side?

I’m being generous.

I think most people can see the frequently examples of exaggerated but vague and elusive expertise from the cult members.

Even they know it’s hard for them to be taken seriously when they’ve got no relevant qualifications and expertise and they’re up against the vast majority of real scientists and every scientific institution of note in the world.

[robinessex]

Is it April the 1st!!!

Climate change: Will insect-eating dogs help?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-468...

Do you fret that your pet pooch is blamed by environmentalists for turning rainforests into poo in the park?
Have no fear - you can now fatten Fido on black soldier flies instead of Brazilian beef.
A pet food manufacturer now claims that 40% of its new product is made from soldier flies.
It's one of many firms hoping to cash in on the backlash against beef by people concerned that the cattle are fed on soya.
These soya plantations are responsible for the release of greenhouse gases in significant quantities.....continues

So far the year, the least tenuous link to AGW & CC

[turbobloke]

Awesome.

There will be a grant for 'more research needed' on that tosh from somewhere, probably our taxes.

[Jinx]

durbster said:

That's not what we're talking about. The claim was the prediction of an apocalypse that's supposed to have happened already. To remind you:

"Prediction of Apocalypse" and "Already happened" are mutually exclusive.

FFS

So you accept by definition most CO2 GBoBTWBoBNT papers are "apocalyptic"?

[anonymous-user]

Jinx said:

So you accept by definition most CO2 GBoBTWBoBNT papers are "apocalyptic"?

No they’re not apocalyptic.

[Jinx]

El stovey said:

No they’re not apocalyptic.

Under the original greek meaning?

[gadgetmac]

Jesus

Professors and Scientists eh?...Righto...

[anonymous-user]

Jinx said:

El stovey said:

No they’re not apocalyptic.

Under the original greek meaning?

What do you do for a living jinx?

[Jinx]

El stovey said:

What do you do for a living jinx?

Data.

[anonymous-user]

Jinx said:

El stovey said:

What do you do for a living jinx?

Data.

Bit vague and elusive as usual. Possibly to do with numbers though, could be a boffin, maybe even a scientist or an engineer, maybe not.

[gadgetmac]

El stovey said:

Jinx said:

El stovey said:

What do you do for a living jinx?

Data.

Bit vague and elusive as usual. Possibly to do with numbers though, could be a boffin, maybe even a scientist or an engineer, maybe not.

...or an input clerk.

[Diderot]

gadgetmac said:

Diderot said:

gadgetmac said:

Diderot said:

gadgetmac said:

I think we are all curious to know the answer to quite a few questions.

For instance I'm still waiting to hear what the link is between the RS and TATA.

Hey ho.

https://royalsociety.org/about-us/funding-finances/support-us/

Yes, I get that, but where's the corruption/subterfuge/skulduggery/fraud etc?

Who mentioned 'corruption/subterfuge/skulduggery'fraud etc'? Not me. You've already falsely accused me of claiming to be a scientist, don't now drag me into one of your conspiracy fantasies as well; can't you get one of your zealous believer mate to give you a hand. Job 1 speaks of a decent sort of chap.

Then just what the hell are you going on about with RS and TATA?

You make some kind of accusation but won't spell it out and then run around shouting that you're not accusing anybody of anything.

And you say you're a scientist?!?!

Until I see evidence to the contrary you are no scientist. Your not even a student of the sciences, the last sentence in your post makes that so obvious. I suspect you are a Walter Mitty type wannabe professor/scientist.

Edited by gadgetmac on Thursday 10th January 08:42

Show me where I claimed I was a scientist.

And while we’re on the subject of jobs, what kind of illustrious career do you enjoy?

[gadgetmac]

Diderot said:

Show me where I claimed I was a scientist.

And while we’re on the subject of jobs, what kind of illustrious career do you enjoy?

No. Let's go back to the question your been refusing to answer for months first.

This is my last attempt after which I won't be replying to any questions you specifically put to me.

What is the issue between the RS and TATA that you keep alluding too but never explain???

[turbobloke]

Recent Report by Dr Capell Aris said:

The dash for gas of the 1990s delivered lower carbon dioxide emissions and lower costs. If we had simply continued, we could now be enjoying electricity prices 30-40% lower than today, with similar carbon dioxide emissions, and vastly better grid security. Consumers are grossly overpaying for a very unreliable system.

The systems National Grid are looking at putting in place will deliver significant carbon emissions cuts but will double electricity prices. A system based on gas and nuclear would deliver similar emissions cuts at around half the price. This shouldn’t, therefore, be a difficult decision.

Report cites problems arising from the intermittency of unreliables which we all know about (but not all of us look the other way).

[Jinx]

El stovey said:

Bit vague and elusive as usual. Possibly to do with numbers though, could be a boffin, maybe even a scientist or an engineer, maybe not.

Open forums are not really the place to discuss professional roles. Lets just say I work with lots of data some of which is highly relevant to the area we are discussing.