Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)

[anonymous-user]

The climate cultists have evolved from endlessly quoting dodgy advocacy blogs like wattsupwiththat and the gpwf. To deeps’ tactic of quoting them and not linking to the article, to turboblokes new tactic of changing to wording slightly to make it look like he wrote it himself.

Why not just get your information from a reliable respected source and then you wouldn’t be having to conceal it in the first place.

If the only sources that reflect your views are so poor that you have to hide them, then that really ought to make you have a think.

[gadgetmac]

El stovey said:

The climate cultists have evolved from endlessly quoting dodgy advocacy blogs like wattsupwiththat and the gpwf. To deeps’ tactic of quoting them and not linking to the article, to turboblokes new tactic of changing to wording slightly to make it look like he wrote it himself.

Why not just get your information from a reliable respected source and then you wouldn’t be having to conceal it in the first place.

If the only sources that reflect your views are so poor that you have to hide them, then that really ought to make you have a think.

It plays well to his acolytes if they think he's the one coming up with it.

As you say, Deeps has been doing it too but at least he wasn't changing the text subtly to hide its origin.

[gadgetmac]

Can somebody hurry up and post another WUWT link please, it's Monday and I need cheering up.

[robinessex]

gadgetmac said:

Ian Stirling, who has spent more than four decades studying polar bears and publishing over 150 papers and five books on the topic, says has “zero” authority on the subject.

Cheers.

Wish I could get a well paid, pointless job like that !

[gadgetmac]

robinessex said:

gadgetmac said:

Ian Stirling, who has spent more than four decades studying polar bears and publishing over 150 papers and five books on the topic, says has “zero” authority on the subject.

Cheers.

Wish I could get a well paid, pointless job like that !

Maybe, maybe not.

Unfortunately they are needed for when climate change deniers also quote people with "zero credibility" in the field.

Any chance of today's BBC link only I'm going out later.

[turbobloke]

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

[hairykrishna]

robinessex said:

Wish I could get a well paid, pointless job like that !

Getting a job like that involves spending a lot of years being paid badly as a PhD student and a post doc. In this case he probably also had/has to spend rather a lot of time living in the arctic. Nobody takes on a scientific academic career because it's easy and pays lots.

Edited by hairykrishna on Monday 18th February 12:37

[gadgetmac]

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

You're spamming and trolling again I see. This is a renewables issue which as you well know (because you saturate that thread with your opinions as well) has its own thread.

It's not the first time your done this as well and something should be done about it if you are going to continue to post this stuff in here.

[anonymous-user]

hairykrishna said:

Getting a job like that involves spending a lot of years being paid badly as a PhD student and a post doc. In this case he probably also had/has to spend rather a lot of time living in the antarctic. Nobody takes on a scientific academic career because it's easy and pays lots.

Some on here just pretend they’ve taken it on to add weight to their internet arguments.

[hairykrishna]

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

[Phud]

If he's watching polar bears from the Antarctic then he's amazing.

Or it's all complete rubbish!!

[gadgetmac]

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

He's also posted it on the Renewables thread to troll that one as well!

[anonymous-user]

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

Unsurprisingly, It’s a complete misrepresentation of gates and his views.

[chrispmartha]

El stovey said:

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

Unsurprisingly, It’s a complete misrepresentation of gates and his views.

I'm actually starting to think TB is actually just taking the mick now, either that or he has no self awareness whatsoever.

At least he's not tried to pass it off as his own words this time.

[gadgetmac]

chrispmartha said:

El stovey said:

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

Unsurprisingly, It’s a complete misrepresentation of gates and his views.

I'm actually starting to think TB is actually just taking the mick now, either that or he has no self awareness whatsoever.

At least he's not tried to pass it off as his own words this time.

It's trolling and spamming plain and simple. Others have been removed from this thread for less.

[chrispmartha]

gadgetmac said:

chrispmartha said:

El stovey said:

hairykrishna said:

turbobloke said:

Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind & Solar

‘Let’s Quit Jerking Around With Renewables & Batteries’

https://stopthesethings.com/2019/02/18/bill-gates-...

Given that an English Lit graduate was good enough as an architect for the Climate Change Act, a Harvard drop-out philanthropist entrepreneur must surely be an expert among experts on unreliables.

Surely the wrong thread for this? Pull some Bill Gates quotes out of context and make it look like he thinks renewables are a bad idea. The man's pushing billions into energy generation/storage startups.

“The long-term threat [of climate change] is so serious that the world needs to move much more aggressively — right now — to develop energy sources that are cheaper, can deliver on demand, and emit zero carbon dioxide.”

Straight from the horses mouth. He thinks our current rate of renewable adoption is much too slow. He also wants to tackle the other 75% of CO2 production as quickly as possible.

Unsurprisingly, It’s a complete misrepresentation of gates and his views.

I'm actually starting to think TB is actually just taking the mick now, either that or he has no self awareness whatsoever.

At least he's not tried to pass it off as his own words this time.

It's trolling and spamming plain and simple. Others have been removed from this thread for less.

On the other hand he does provide a service, linking to these weird websites usually gives a good giggle.

"We're not here to debate the wind industry, we're here to DESTROY it"

:-)

[wc98]

gadgetmac said:

And even that one is from friendsofscience.org who do not believe that co2 is one of the main drivers of Climate Change. They believe that the Sun is causing the problems.

It’s a Canadian denier site (think The GWPF) and hosts the likes of big oil lackeys Dr Soon and Susan Crockford together with the fruit loop McKitrick.

The site’s sensationalist style is funny.

https://friendsofscience.org/

given your description of the three people mentioned i take it you have never read any of their bio's ? i'm not big on appeals to authority but i don't recall any of them ever being involved with sexual abuse, academic fraud , theft of taxpayers money and a whole host of other activities that academics on the warmist side have been involved in ,in recent years.

if you could detail the issues you personally have with them it might shed some light on your claims.

[hairykrishna]

Phud said:

If he's watching polar bears from the Antarctic then he's amazing.

Or it's all complete rubbish!!

Oops. Arctic obviously

[gadgetmac]

wc98 said:

gadgetmac said:

And even that one is from friendsofscience.org who do not believe that co2 is one of the main drivers of Climate Change. They believe that the Sun is causing the problems.

It’s a Canadian denier site (think The GWPF) and hosts the likes of big oil lackeys Dr Soon and Susan Crockford together with the fruit loop McKitrick.

The site’s sensationalist style is funny.

https://friendsofscience.org/

given your description of the three people mentioned i take it you have never read any of their bio's ? i'm not big on appeals to authority but i don't recall any of them ever being involved with sexual abuse, academic fraud , theft of taxpayers money and a whole host of other activities that academics on the warmist side have been involved in ,in recent years.

if you could detail the issues you personally have with them it might shed some light on your claims.

Quick! Deflect! Deflect!

I'm not quoting people who have been involved in those sort of things though. If I have please enlighten me....

Meanwhile, read up on Soon and his "Deliverables" for his corporate clients.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2015/...

[wc98]

gadgetmac said:

How about you supply what was asked for, not what you now wish I had asked for. I’m open to the truth so if the total Polar Bear population is currently growing then supply a link from an acknowledged/undisputed source showing that please and not a report on something else entirely and certainly not from Susan Crockford of whom Ian Stirling, who has spent more than four decades studying polar bears and publishing over 150 papers and five books on the topic, says has “zero” authority on the subject.

Like I say, if it’s true fine, but lets insert some credibility into the proceedings.

Cheers.

one thing i will give you, you do a great job in highlighting your ignorance of just about every climate related topic you comment on. anyone taking the alarmist position on the claims from the iucn pbsg is marking themselves out as stupid due to the fact the alarmist claims they made back in the day after the low summer sea ice in 2007 have already been shown to be nonsense. ian stirlings career relied on polar bear alarmism. you might want to check the sources of much of his funding, i understand you don't like funding from fossil fuel companies(i have no problem with funding sources as long as they are transparent). if that is the case i don't think you will be a fan of stirlings for long

go and have a read of the saga involving mitch taylor, probably the foremost polar bear researcher in terms of on the ground hours and the pbsg and educate yourself on just how much politics pervades an area that should be all about research. you need to lay off desmog blog and carbon brief for a while.