Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)

[gadgetmac]

Steve Goddard: The Arctic Ice is Thickening and Expanding. NASA and others are part of the conspiracy.

In other news the number of actual flat earthers who also think like this is growing rapidly

Edited by gadgetmac on Sunday 24th February 10:14

[Kawasicki]

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard (aka Tony Heller), regular contributor to WUWT.

“Scott Adams asked me to....”

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies Evolution and the Fossil Record
Denies the holocaust
Is a professional Cartoonist

Yep, well worth a read on Climate Change

The difference between you and me is that I don’t really care what opinions Adams holds about various other topics, or what his job is - I was just interested in his take on global warming.

I think he has interesting thoughts on the debate.

Seeing as you mentioned he denies evolution I decided to have a look if that is true...here is what he says himself...

“If you are new to the Dilbert Blog, I remind you that I don’t believe in Intelligent Design or Creationism or invisible friends of any sort. I just think that evolution looks like a blend of science and bullst, and have predicted for years that it would be revised in scientific terms in my lifetime. It’s a hunch – nothing more.”

https://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2...

...he has a hunch, nothing more...

Is that so bad?

[Kawasicki]

gadgetmac said:

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies the holocaust

Umm, no...

“No reasonable person doubts that the Holocaust happened, but wouldn’t you like to know how the exact number was calculated, just for context? Without that context, I don’t know if I should lump the people who think the Holocaust might have been exaggerated for political purposes with the Holocaust deniers. If they are equally nuts, I’d like to know that. I want context.”

Sounds fairly rational to me.

Why are you slandering his name?

[anonymous-user]

Why are the cultists now just quoting random people and attaching importance to their opinions on AGW?

We've now got phers wanting to know what a cartoonist is asking a blogger.

No wonder people think it’s ok to get their information from wattsupwiththat and the gwpf instead of respected and reliable sources.

[Bacardi]

gadgetmac said:

Your posting history is 6 clicks of the mouse away...5 of which you don't have to actually move the mouse for you just keep clicking.

I know how it works. It's the fact that you went to the trouble to search my posting history. Why would someone do that? Presumably to try and dig some dirt.

I've never had a stalker before. You would have to be a sad lonely person with no life to go to so much trouble, or indeed swamp the thread so much as you do, everyday (4 post already today and counting...), unless paid to do so?

You didn't answer my question, it's a simple one...

Do you get paid to post here?

[jet_noise]

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard (aka Tony Heller), regular contributor to WUWT.

“Scott Adams asked me to....”

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies Evolution and the Fossil Record
Denies the holocaust
Is a professional Cartoonist

Yep, well worth a read on Climate Change

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

[turbobloke]

jet_noise said:

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard (aka Tony Heller), regular contributor to WUWT.

“Scott Adams asked me to....”

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies Evolution and the Fossil Record
Denies the holocaust
Is a professional Cartoonist

Yep, well worth a read on Climate Change

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

That would be a good thing but it would make pro-agw posts even rarer. There's not much else apart from ad hom logical fallacy 'shoot the messenger stuff' these days, not forgetting the funding punts and they backfires too.
data
Meanwhile it's still a bit hinky with the BOM Darwin candidates down under.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/...

https://www.thegwpf.com/new-accusations-against-au...

Article said:

the ­bureau has rewritten Australia’s temperature records for the second­ time in six years

Check out the raw data.

[wc98]

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard (aka Tony Heller), regular contributor to WUWT.

“Scott Adams asked me to....”

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies Evolution and the Fossil Record
Denies the holocaust
Is a professional Cartoonist

Yep, well worth a read on Climate Change

will fit right in with the skeptical science 97% lot then. him and mr cook have a lot in common

[turbobloke]

Harsh but fair.

[wc98]

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard: The Arctic Ice is Thickening and Expanding. NASA and others are part of the conspiracy.

In other news the number of actual flat earthers who also think like this is growing rapidly

Edited by gadgetmac on Sunday 24th February 10:14

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
i'm not a fan of models, but for those that are http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php

[wc98]

turbobloke said:

jet_noise said:

gadgetmac said:

Steve Goddard (aka Tony Heller), regular contributor to WUWT.

“Scott Adams asked me to....”

This is the Scott Adams who...

Denies Evolution and the Fossil Record
Denies the holocaust
Is a professional Cartoonist

Yep, well worth a read on Climate Change

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

That would be a good thing but it would make pro-agw posts even rarer. There's not much else apart from ad hom logical fallacy 'shoot the messenger stuff' these days, not forgetting the funding punts and they backfires too.
data
Meanwhile it's still a bit hinky with the BOM Darwin candidates down under.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/...

https://www.thegwpf.com/new-accusations-against-au...

Article said:

the ­bureau has rewritten Australia’s temperature records for the second­ time in six years

Check out the raw data.

to be fair they are only keeping up with the joneses ,i mean yanks
https://realclimatescience.com/wp-content/uploads/...

[gadgetmac]

jet_noise said:

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

The problem for you guys is that a cartoonist is all he is. And I'm not quoting John Cook. Jeez.

Again, zero papers on climate science published.

No surprise you taking his side though.

Has anybody found themselves on Netflix's Behind The Curve yet?

Keep an eye out chaps, their next conference is up coming soon, tickets available at all the usual cult and crackpot outlets.

[mko9]

gadgetmac said:

jet_noise said:

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

The problem for you guys is that a cartoonist is all he is. And I'm not quoting John Cook. Jeez.

Again, zero papers on climate science published.

No surprise you taking his side though.

Has anybody found themselves on Netflix's Behind The Curve yet?

Keep an eye out chaps, their next conference is up coming soon, tickets available at all the usual cult and crackpot outlets.

:facepalm: This is the politics thread, not the science thread. Please go back and read all five volumes from the beginning, so you can grasp that there has been pages and pages of discussion by and about people who are not climate scientists. Including you.

[gadgetmac]

Bacardi said:

I know how it works. It's the fact that you went to the trouble to search my posting history. Why would someone do that? Presumably to try and dig some dirt.

I've never had a stalker before. You would have to be a sad lonely person with no life to go to so much trouble, or indeed swamp the thread so much as you do, everyday (4 post already today and counting...), unless paid to do so?

You didn't answer my question, it's a simple one...

Do you get paid to post here?

1. I clicked on your history because I remembered your previous brilliant posting and wanted to confirm it. Hey pesto.

2. I post on many other threads and run the Pistonheads Predictathon on the football forum. You meanwhile contribute nothing to PH save posting to this thread.

It's a simple question, are you paid to come on and post here? Yes or No?

[mko9]

Bacardi said:

gadgetmac said:

Your posting history is 6 clicks of the mouse away...5 of which you don't have to actually move the mouse for you just keep clicking.

I know how it works. It's the fact that you went to the trouble to search my posting history. Why would someone do that? Presumably to try and dig some dirt.

I've never had a stalker before. You would have to be a sad lonely person with no life to go to so much trouble, or indeed swamp the thread so much as you do, everyday (4 post already today and counting...), unless paid to do so?

You didn't answer my question, it's a simple one...

Do you get paid to post here?

Hmm, interestingly, if you follow your advise gadgetmac, you will find that in the last 30 days you have posted in 16 threads. Single digit numbers (1-5 posts) in almost all of them. You are a little bit more interested in Tottenham Hotspurs (11 posts) and the Premier League in general (22 posts). Then you get to this thread, with 365 posts. An order of magnitude more than all your other posts combined. I'd say Bacardi raises a good point. And why I posted previously about you stting up this thread.

Unfortunately, the forum engine used by this board doesn't have an 'ignore' function, or the problem would be easily solved.

[gadgetmac]

mko9 said:

gadgetmac said:

jet_noise said:

Cartoonist, a skill shared by, let's just pluck a name out of the ether, say John Cook?
Ad whom, ad hom.

Discuss their point not who they are.

The problem for you guys is that a cartoonist is all he is. And I'm not quoting John Cook. Jeez.

Again, zero papers on climate science published.

No surprise you taking his side though.

Has anybody found themselves on Netflix's Behind The Curve yet?

Keep an eye out chaps, their next conference is up coming soon, tickets available at all the usual cult and crackpot outlets.

:facepalm: This is the politics thread, not the science thread. Please go back and read all five volumes from the beginning, so you can grasp that there has been pages and pages of discussion by and about people who are not climate scientists. Including you.

it is indeed the politics thread, perhaps you could tell TB and others to stop posting their misleading graphs on here and start posting them in the Science thread.

Of course that would mean no more trolling so I don't expect that to happen anytime soon.

[gadgetmac]

mko9 said:

Bacardi said:

gadgetmac said:

Your posting history is 6 clicks of the mouse away...5 of which you don't have to actually move the mouse for you just keep clicking.

I know how it works. It's the fact that you went to the trouble to search my posting history. Why would someone do that? Presumably to try and dig some dirt.

I've never had a stalker before. You would have to be a sad lonely person with no life to go to so much trouble, or indeed swamp the thread so much as you do, everyday (4 post already today and counting...), unless paid to do so?

You didn't answer my question, it's a simple one...

Do you get paid to post here?

Hmm, interestingly, if you follow your advise gadgetmac, you will find that in the last 30 days you have posted in 16 threads. Single digit numbers (1-5 posts) in almost all of them. You are a little bit more interested in Tottenham Hotspurs (11 posts) and the Premier League in general (22 posts). Then you get to this thread, with 365 posts. An order of magnitude more than all your other posts combined. I'd say Bacardi raises a good point. And why I posted previously about you stting up this thread.

Unfortunately, the forum engine used by this board doesn't have an 'ignore' function, or the problem would be easily solved.

Unfortunately mk09 you'll find that with all of the deniers talking to me or about me it takes quite a few posts to respond. For each single posts to me I have to make a single post back and as there are lots of them...guess what?

It's the logic of that permeating?

[gadgetmac]

mko9 said:

Unfortunately, the forum engine used by this board doesn't have an 'ignore' function, or the problem would be easily solved.

You could make a start on it yourself by simply ignoring my posts but you won't because you just can't help yourself...just Watch...start now.

[gadgetmac]

It's simple guys. If you don't want me to post so often DON'T ASK ME QUESTIONS it's not climate rocket science.

Meantime I'll continue to post against obviously biased links and sources as that's how forums work.

[mko9]

gadgetmac said:

mko9 said:

Unfortunately, the forum engine used by this board doesn't have an 'ignore' function, or the problem would be easily solved.

You could make a start on it yourself by simply ignoring my posts but you won't because you just can't help yourself...just Watch...start now.

Gadgetmac does have a point here. I routinely scroll past a page or two of posts that are simply pointless back and forth between gadgetmac and everyone else in this thread. Perhaps we should all just be more diligent in ignoring all the stupid things he posts? I failed twice today, but I will try to do better at ignoring his worthless inputs in the future.

We'll see if he can resist replying to this post, too. The last word seems to be very important to him.