Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. (Vol 5)
Discussion
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
Personally, I'd rather analyse the underlying rationale for why particular scientists claim what they claim and not rely on 2nd hand information provided through the prism of a pseudo-scientific BBC journo.
Ok since you have analysed it, how many scientists have been sacked for their views on AGW? How many are lying about their views just to avoid being sacked? Diderot said:
So Stovey, where do you stand on this Extinction Rebellion protest?
Although not directed at myself, it could be argued that this movement is a direct consequence of the mass hysteria which is being whipped up by certain activists. How good this is for the mental well being of those so afflicted, when presented with dire consequences over which, by themself, can have effectively no control over whatsoever, remains to be seen.It could be seen as irresponsible to stir up such emotion.
It still remains to be seen whether the policies as proposed can be implemented without significant detrimental changes in lifestyle and whether they will prove effective in achieving their aims - which primarily is to make the planet colder but without the resilience that fossil fuels have provided historically.
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
Personally, I'd rather analyse the underlying rationale for why particular scientists claim what they claim and not rely on 2nd hand information provided through the prism of a pseudo-scientific BBC journo.
Ok since you have analysed it, how many scientists have been sacked for their views on AGW? How many are lying about their views just to avoid being sacked? 
Scientists have definitely discovered aliens. No I can’t prove it because the universities have silenced them with NDAs
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
El stovey said:
3.1416 said:
Personally, I'd rather analyse the underlying rationale for why particular scientists claim what they claim and not rely on 2nd hand information provided through the prism of a pseudo-scientific BBC journo.
Ok since you have analysed it, how many scientists have been sacked for their views on AGW? How many are lying about their views just to avoid being sacked? Scientists have definitely discovered aliens. No I can’t prove it because the universities have silenced them with NDAs
Ever thought of writing fairy tales - Biggles may be right up your flight path - that or a BBC science journo.
3.1416 said:
...It could be seen as irresponsible to stir up such emotion...
Agree with that. The news coverage of this protest and the previous school age action repeats the message of impending doom, the imminent demise of Mother Earth and even the prospect of fewer augmented reality TV programmes (not really, that last one is fake).The weekly focus on eco-geddon must alarm some vulnerable people, or at least confuse them? Here in the damp and foggy UK we have had successive years of superb horticultural growth, some record harvests, little or no snow, and wonderful warm sunny days. And yet no summer drought to match 1976, much of the land looks lush and vibrant even into October.
Doesn't feel like the end of days. Confusing.
El stovey said:
Diderot said:
So Stovey, where do you stand on this Extinction Rebellion protest?
They’re a load of t
ts. 
The whole catastrophe/extinction agenda leaves me cold (pun intended, sorry) - can we not be treated like grown ups and have sensible discussions about what can reasonably be done to mitigate risks? Ugh
DibblyDobbler said:
El stovey said:
Diderot said:
So Stovey, where do you stand on this Extinction Rebellion protest?
They’re a load of tts. The whole catastrophe/extinction agenda leaves me cold (pun intended, sorry) - can we not be treated like grown ups and have sensible discussions about what can reasonably be done to mitigate risks? Ugh
Kawasicki said:
That ship has sailed. Climate science has backed the catastrophe story, the press has distributed it, the believers now believe that nothing other than eco-socialism will save us now.
They were interviewed by Adam Bolton on sky, he was saying their suggestions were totally over the top and just causing hassle to people and turning the public away from their cause.What many of these protesters are saying is far beyond the general scientific predictions for AGW.
These nutjobs protesting in London are the opposite side of the debate and just as extreme in their views as the climate cult here. It’s just that they’re willing to do something about it.
El stovey said:
They were interviewed by Adam Bolton on sky, he was saying their suggestions were totally over the top and just causing hassle to people and turning the public away from their cause.
What many of these protesters are saying is far beyond the general scientific predictions for AGW.
These nutjobs protesting in London are the opposite side of the debate and just as extreme in their views as the climate cult here. It’s just that they’re willing to do something about it.
What many of these protesters are saying is far beyond the general scientific predictions for AGW.
These nutjobs protesting in London are the opposite side of the debate and just as extreme in their views as the climate cult here. It’s just that they’re willing to do something about it.
Because telling people there isn't a major problem and that the catastrophe only exists in models (which need to be taken with a pinch of salt) and in RCP 8.5 is an "extreme" view......El stovey said:
Kawasicki said:
That ship has sailed. Climate science has backed the catastrophe story, the press has distributed it, the believers now believe that nothing other than eco-socialism will save us now.
They were interviewed by Adam Bolton on sky, he was saying their suggestions were totally over the top and just causing hassle to people and turning the public away from their cause.What many of these protesters are saying is far beyond the general scientific predictions for AGW.
These nutjobs protesting in London are the opposite side of the debate and just as extreme in their views as the climate cult here. It’s just that they’re willing to do something about it.
Jinx said:
Because telling people there isn't a major problem and that the catastrophe only exists in models (which need to be taken with a pinch of salt) and in RCP 8.5 is an "extreme" view......Climate change: Sir David Attenborough warns of 'catastrophe'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-479...
Sir David Attenborough has issued his strongest statement yet on the threat posed to the world by climate change.
In the BBC programme Climate Change - The Facts, the veteran broadcaster outlines the scale of the crisis facing the planet.....continues
Complete hysterical claptrap. No proof whatever that a 1degree temp rise will be a problem at all. It's already done that apparently in the last 100yrs anyway. Did anyone notice anything? The only fact about that programme is its bks.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-479...
Sir David Attenborough has issued his strongest statement yet on the threat posed to the world by climate change.
In the BBC programme Climate Change - The Facts, the veteran broadcaster outlines the scale of the crisis facing the planet.....continues
Complete hysterical claptrap. No proof whatever that a 1degree temp rise will be a problem at all. It's already done that apparently in the last 100yrs anyway. Did anyone notice anything? The only fact about that programme is its b
ks.Edited by robinessex on Thursday 18th April 16:57
DibblyDobbler said:
I saw on the news that a French lady had come over to join in the protests - she was prepared to be arrested because she 'feared her daughter would not be able to die of old age'. Now I'm very much a moderate on AGW but I must say I found this totally baffling - the trend according to satellite data is about 0.2 degrees per decade iirc so what is it that she thinks will kill her daughter
The whole catastrophe/extinction agenda leaves me cold (pun intended, sorry) - can we not be treated like grown ups and have sensible discussions about what can reasonably be done to mitigate risks? Ugh
Totally agree, the problem appears to be the connections to the environmental movement ,who see it as a vehicle to promote their green agenda, no cars no plastics no nothing. The whole catastrophe/extinction agenda leaves me cold (pun intended, sorry) - can we not be treated like grown ups and have sensible discussions about what can reasonably be done to mitigate risks? Ugh
robinessex said:
Climate change: Sir David Attenborough warns of 'catastrophe'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-479...
Sir David Attenborough has issued his strongest statement yet on the threat posed to the world by climate change.
In the BBC programme Climate Change - The Facts, the veteran broadcaster outlines the scale of the crisis facing the planet.....continues
Complete hysterical claptrap. No proof whatever that a 1degree temp rise will be a problem at all. It's already done that apparently in the last 100yrs anyway. Did anyone notice anything? The only fact about that programme is its bks.
I see it may be selective with the truth, this morning they showed a clip about sea level rise in Louisiana,https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-479...
Sir David Attenborough has issued his strongest statement yet on the threat posed to the world by climate change.
In the BBC programme Climate Change - The Facts, the veteran broadcaster outlines the scale of the crisis facing the planet.....continues
Complete hysterical claptrap. No proof whatever that a 1degree temp rise will be a problem at all. It's already done that apparently in the last 100yrs anyway. Did anyone notice anything? The only fact about that programme is its b
ks.Edited by robinessex on Thursday 18th April 16:57
https://www.nola.com/environment/2017/06/sinking_f...
Louisiana's coastal area is sinking fast.
I liked the way the
believe the scientists they say. yet the scientist on the bbc right now knows less about coral than i do. she mentioned satellites , she maybe wants to have a look at the images and understand the phrase global greening. disappearing forests she says,how many trees did they count this week and what was the error margin this time,millions, billions or trillions ? her neck does look like a scary global warming image though, it just got redder and redder throughout the interview. a bit gammony if you ask me.
WhatHappenedThere said:
No PH 'experts' piping up to say they are disagreeing with the Prog on the BBC1 right now ?
To say they know better than Sir David ?
if that is a reference to my postabove, no i am not an expert on coral, but i am aware of the history of its existence on the planet and the temperature swings it has endured throughout that history.To say they know better than Sir David ?
as for attenborough he is a script reader on the program and the program is entertainment. i haven't watched it and won't. it will be full of the same if's,but's and maybe's people have heard many times over.as i don't see many outside of the eco loon brigade giving a flying f
k i don't see them giving up their current lifestyles because some old bloke on the telly thinks they should. i wonder what his carbon footprint over his lifetime is ? many multiples of most i would imagine,just another hypocrite in a long list of them.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff