Take-up of MMR vaccine falls for fourth year in a row.

[durbster]

968 said:

Woody John said:

Non-sense. Clean water, enough nourishing foods and comfortable homes combined with efficient sewage systems were the main reasons for a vast improvement in health on the whole.

You need to evaluate your relationship with the natural world. That is scary.

Slightly massive flaw on your argument is in developed countries where vaccinations have been stopped for certain diseases, like pertussis, the incidence of the disease went up massively despite good sanitation and improved health.

And there are plenty of places where sanitation has not greatly improved yet vaccination programmes are still successful.

[gregs656]

durbster said:

And there are plenty of places where sanitation has not greatly improved yet vaccination programmes are still successful.

And you can see the correlation in the states for example between areas with a percentage of cruel parents who choose not to vaccinate their children and incidences of dieseases they would otherwise be vaccinated against.

[Woody John]

durbster said:

Woody John said:

Non-sense. Clean water, enough nourishing foods and comfortable homes combined with efficient sewage systems were the main reasons for a vast improvement in health on the whole.

You need to evaluate your relationship with the natural world. That is scary.

If your natural world is so good for us, why did we need to do those things?

Cleaning up water means removing naturally occurring harmful material from it. Improving nourishment is learning what natural foods are harmful. Improved hygiene means killing or preventing naturally forming bacteria, and improving sewage means getting our natural turds as far away from us as possible, because they're full of naturally occurring stuff that makes us incredibly sick.

What year are you living in? For hundreds of years people have know it is not advisable to eat poison mushrooms and warm turd all washed down with a pint communal urine.

[popeyewhite]

_dobbo_ said:

popeyewhite said:

He's not the one getting wound up and being offensive. Any clearer?

Arguing against vaccinating children is pretty offensive to me.

It may be, it may not, Part of being an adult is being able to accept other people may have different opinions to your own and it's actually OK not to belittle/swear at them/insult them.

[minimoog]

popeyewhite said:

It may be, it may not, Part of being an adult is being able to accept other people may have different opinions to your own and it's actually OK not to belittle/swear at them/insult them.

Yeah alright mate you've swanned in and appointed yourself thread referee in defence of all the little snowflakes, we get it.

Got anything to say on the thread subject or are you just gonna keep standing there blowing your whistle?

[968]

Woody John said:

durbster said:

Woody John said:

Non-sense. Clean water, enough nourishing foods and comfortable homes combined with efficient sewage systems were the main reasons for a vast improvement in health on the whole.

You need to evaluate your relationship with the natural world. That is scary.

If your natural world is so good for us, why did we need to do those things?

Cleaning up water means removing naturally occurring harmful material from it. Improving nourishment is learning what natural foods are harmful. Improved hygiene means killing or preventing naturally forming bacteria, and improving sewage means getting our natural turds as far away from us as possible, because they're full of naturally occurring stuff that makes us incredibly sick.

What year are you living in? For hundreds of years people have know it is not advisable to eat poison mushrooms and warm turd all washed down with a pint communal urine.

So no actual response to the fact that when vaccination programs have ceased, in developed countries, rates of disease have massively increased?

[Art0ir]

One of the main anti vaxxers on this thread was convinced homeopathic treatments for his dog were not only viable, but hugely successful.

[Woody John]

968 said:

Woody John said:

durbster said:

Woody John said:

Non-sense. Clean water, enough nourishing foods and comfortable homes combined with efficient sewage systems were the main reasons for a vast improvement in health on the whole.

You need to evaluate your relationship with the natural world. That is scary.

If your natural world is so good for us, why did we need to do those things?

Cleaning up water means removing naturally occurring harmful material from it. Improving nourishment is learning what natural foods are harmful. Improved hygiene means killing or preventing naturally forming bacteria, and improving sewage means getting our natural turds as far away from us as possible, because they're full of naturally occurring stuff that makes us incredibly sick.

What year are you living in? For hundreds of years people have know it is not advisable to eat poison mushrooms and warm turd all washed down with a pint communal urine.

So no actual response to the fact that when vaccination programs have ceased, in developed countries, rates of disease have massively increased?

So no actual response to a point made after my response. Surprisingly.

[popeyewhite]

minimoog said:

Yeah alright mate..

See, that wasn't so hard.

[Woody John]

Art0ir said:

One of the main anti vaxxers on this thread was convinced homeopathic treatments for his dog were not only viable, but hugely successful.

And how is the dog?

[gregs656]

Woody John said:

And how is the dog?

Wait, you believe there are really dogs? Dogs are a conspiracy. They don’t actually exist, they just spy on us for the lizard overlords.

[968]

Woody John said:

So no actual response to a point made after my response. Surprisingly.

Because you’re talking utter rubbish and your comment was not worthy or a reply.

[anonymous-user]

popeyewhite said:

It may be, it may not, Part of being an adult is being able to accept other people may have different opinions to your own and it's actually OK not to belittle/swear at them/insult them.

No, I do t think so. Flat Earthers: perfectly acceptable to belittle/swear at them/insult them. Ditto: David Icke and his believers. Freemen of the Land. EDL losers. Paedophilia advocates. And so the list goes on.

Because these beliefs are based either on utter garbage nonsense thinking or are plain offensive.

If you ran a business and someone came to you and said that in his opinion bananas were legal tender and three bananas made a dozen, you would belittle/insult/swear at them. Rightly so.

[Woody John]

968 said:

Woody John said:

So no actual response to a point made after my response. Surprisingly.

Because you’re talking utter rubbish and your comment was not worthy or a reply.

Have a time out and come back when you are making at least some sense.

[anonymous-user]

I have noticed a distinct trend amongst the couple of Anti-Vaxxers who have appeared in this thread.

They are incredibly selective about answering direct questions.

When they do answer a question it is either with another question, or with some gibberish that wasn’t actually asked.

It’s all classic conspiracy theory/tinfoil hat nutter type stuff.

[durbster]

Woody John said:

What year are you living in? For hundreds of years people have know it is not advisable to eat poison mushrooms and warm turd all washed down with a pint communal urine.

Then you do accept there are naturally occurring things that can harm us.

[Woody John]

gregs656 said:

Woody John said:

And how is the dog?

Wait, you believe there are really dogs? Dogs are a conspiracy. They don’t actually exist, they just spy on us for the lizard overlords.

They must exist. Sure we have vaccines to protect us from them.

[Art0ir]

Woody John said:

They must exist. Sure we have vaccines to protect us from them.

What evidence would you need, to convince you that vaccines are effective?

[Russian Troll Bot]

Greg66 said:

popeyewhite said:

It may be, it may not, Part of being an adult is being able to accept other people may have different opinions to your own and it's actually OK not to belittle/swear at them/insult them.

No, I do t think so. Flat Earthers: perfectly acceptable to belittle/swear at them/insult them. Ditto: David Icke and his believers. Freemen of the Land. EDL losers. Paedophilia advocates. And so the list goes on.

Because these beliefs are based either on utter garbage nonsense thinking or are plain offensive.

If you ran a business and someone came to you and said that in his opinion bananas were legal tender and three bananas made a dozen, you would belittle/insult/swear at them. Rightly so.

Jokes about antivaxxers never grow old. Just like their children.

[gregs656]

Woody John said:

They must exist. Sure we have vaccines to protect us from them.

Nope, it’s all a lie. I’m guessing you think we’re on a globe flying through space too? Even the flat earthers think the earth exists. Idiots.