The people's vote

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alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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catso said:
Bullett said:
So when the vote happens and we vote out again by an even bigger margin.
Will that be the end?

Who knows?

Whilst I voted remain, I accept the result of the referendum and don't think running it again would be a good idea.

But to be fair to both sides of the argument, if remain had won would the UKIP/Brexit supporters have accepted it without any fuss?
Probably not but do you think there would have been another referendum before the result of the 1st was enacted?

IMO we would have been reminded that "this was a once in a lifetime event" and "the will of the people must be obeyed".....could be wrong though.

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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so called said:
On the first day, I voted to remain.
On the second day, I sulked for the whole day.
On the third day, I accepted and considered my new horizon.
On the fourth day, I listened to the childishness.
On the fifth day, I shook my head.
On the sixth day, I understood that hope was my only hope.
On the seventh day,.......................................well, one way or another, st happens.

Forgot to say that on the afternoon of the sixth day, I resorted to dreaming of a Eurolotto win.
Was that Craig David?

jjlynn27

7,935 posts

109 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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CAPP0 said:
Unfortunately I didn't see that one before I started this.

Good to see that after an initial hiccup we've actually been able to discuss it sensibly though!
I'm paid by the EU per answer, so having to wade through multiple threads is detrimental to my productivity.

As for this and other thread. There will be no ref2, imo.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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alfie2244 said:
catso said:
Bullett said:
So when the vote happens and we vote out again by an even bigger margin.
Will that be the end?

Who knows?

Whilst I voted remain, I accept the result of the referendum and don't think running it again would be a good idea.

But to be fair to both sides of the argument, if remain had won would the UKIP/Brexit supporters have accepted it without any fuss?
Probably not but do you think there would have been another referendum before the result of the 1st was enacted?

IMO we would have been reminded that "this was a once in a lifetime event" and "the will of the people must be obeyed".....could be wrong though.
I agree, a one-off vote to be accepted and acted upon accordingly, but after reading endless "keep voting until the 'right' result" comments I was just trying to add some balance.

p1stonhead

25,549 posts

167 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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alfie2244 said:
catso said:
Bullett said:
So when the vote happens and we vote out again by an even bigger margin.
Will that be the end?

Who knows?

Whilst I voted remain, I accept the result of the referendum and don't think running it again would be a good idea.

But to be fair to both sides of the argument, if remain had won would the UKIP/Brexit supporters have accepted it without any fuss?
Probably not but do you think there would have been another referendum before the result of the 1st was enacted?

IMO we would have been reminded that "this was a once in a lifetime event" and "the will of the people must be obeyed".....could be wrong though.
Thats exactly what is happening now. No one (with any credibility) is pushing for a second vote now. It has been categorically ruled out by the majority government.

HOWEVER....

If the majority government tear themselves apart through infighting, then opposition parties (which currently have no credibility), may be able to push for it.

selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Surely those sentimental racists that Vince Cable described then denied describing will vote the same as they did before - oh to revisit 'blue passports, white faces and the pink empire on the map'. What a chump - who incidentally couldn't even say the words 'erotic spasm'! 'Exotic sprism' anyone?

It's a busted flush, this democracy stuff - wasted on the extremists and hand wringers.

TEKNOPUG

18,962 posts

205 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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CharlieH89 said:
Can't see a 2nd referendum.

The amount of people that would have voted leave due to seeing the banner of £350m to to the NHS and tighter immigration, when neither have happened would soon turn to stay.
Neither can happen until 11pm March 29th 2019. So it shouldn't come as any surprise that neither have happened yet.

So are you suggesting that we have a second referendum on whether we leave the EU (Brexit) or to accept the terms of Brexit, after Brexit has occured? wobble

alfie2244

11,292 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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catso said:
alfie2244 said:
catso said:
Bullett said:
So when the vote happens and we vote out again by an even bigger margin.
Will that be the end?

Who knows?

Whilst I voted remain, I accept the result of the referendum and don't think running it again would be a good idea.

But to be fair to both sides of the argument, if remain had won would the UKIP/Brexit supporters have accepted it without any fuss?
Probably not but do you think there would have been another referendum before the result of the 1st was enacted?

IMO we would have been reminded that "this was a once in a lifetime event" and "the will of the people must be obeyed".....could be wrong though.
I agree, a one-off vote to be accepted and acted upon accordingly, but after reading endless "keep voting until the 'right' result" comments I was just trying to add some balance.
I fully understand...... yes Farage et al did say something like "this isn't the end of the matter" when he thought the vote was going to go against him........... but in fairness it had taken 40 yrs to get a vote on EU membership, and most (including me) had never even had a vote on the EEC let alone morphing into a fully Federal EU which is where it is aiming whether we liked / wanted it or not.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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selym said:
oh to revisit 'blue passports.
I still say the old passports were black, not sure if that makes me colour blind or racist?

Passports of colour anyone... scratchchin

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Ghibli said:
Good lord, they must be bigger snowflakes than I thought if they are getting upset about comments on the Guardian.

Maybe it is time for these victims of abuse to start following what Brexit actually is and how it will make any changes in their life if any at all.
He was saying it's quite common at the Guardian , didn't say anything about being upset about it, you had to add that bit as a diversion.
For the record, few here actually say outright that all Brexit voters are thick racist, more than a few just merely insinuate it.
To be honest you are more likely to find people on this forum saying that they are called stupid racist than are actually being called stupid racist.

We even have people saying they would vote Brexit again because the are called stupid racist.

The Guardian message board is one example. Where does it happen or has the goal post now moved to insinuating.
Did you not read or understand the bit where I said few say it outright ? It wasn't my claim. Hardly a surprise you went off on one talking about snowflakes though, as a diversion.
If you make sweeping statements that I voted to stop all immigrants, you don't have to take a huge leap of imagination to wonder if they aren't basically calling racism. This is the common place PH thing, must of the loon fringe of vocal Remainers here lack any guts to call it outright is my feeling.

andy_s

19,400 posts

259 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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selym said:
- oh to revisit 'blue passports,.
'Fabrique en France' smile

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Deptford Draylons said:
Did you not read or understand the bit where I said few say it outright ? It wasn't my claim. Hardly a surprise you went off on one talking about snowflakes though, as a diversion.
If you make sweeping statements that I voted to stop all immigrants, you don't have to take a huge leap of imagination to wonder if they aren't basically calling racism. This is the common place PH thing, must of the loon fringe of vocal Remainers here lack any guts to call it outright is my feeling.
No one is calling you anything. I'm asking where people are being called stupid racist. I don't see It on here but I do see people saying they are called it.

You seem to be under the impression that people are insinuating that you are. I'm certainly not.



soupdragon1

4,060 posts

97 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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I went to buy a cup of tea in a café the other day, advertising £1 for a cup of tea. That's a pretty good deal I thought. I was asked if I wanted a cup of tea with sugar or no sugar. I voted no sugar.

A few minutes later, I got my cup of tea - but it tasted sweet.

I asked the waiter why it tasted sweet.

He said because there was sweetener in it.

I said I voted for a cup of tea with no sugar.

He told me there was no sugar in it.

I said I asked for a cup of tea with no sugar, but that's not what it tastes like.

He said you asked for tea with no sugar, and you have a cup of tea with no sugar - stop complaining.

Its not the cup of tea I was expecting I said. Can I have another cup, with no sugar and no sweetener please.

He told me to fk off, and asked me for £2 - £1 for the tea and £1 for the sweetener.

0000

13,812 posts

191 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Ghibli said:
No one is calling you anything. I'm asking where people are being called stupid racist. I don't see It on here but I do see people saying they are called it.

You seem to be under the impression that people are insinuating that you are. I'm certainly not.
Slasher was calling everyone voting leave a racist on here a while back, sometimes dressing it up as xenophobic for a bit of variety. Most of those posts were deleted.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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0000 said:
Slasher was calling everyone voting leave a racist on here a while back, sometimes dressing it up as xenophobic for a bit of variety. Most of those posts were deleted.
And how many people do you think would vote Brexit again because of what 'slasher ' wrote and what was written on the Guardian message board.

Is it really a reason to vote for Brexit again. How did they manage to vote for Brexit before the referendum.

It just doesn't make sense, hence asking where this abuse happens.

Vanden Saab

14,101 posts

74 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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jjlynn27 said:
I'm paid by the EU per answer, so having to wade through multiple threads is detrimental to my productivity.

As for this and other thread. There will be no ref2, imo.
You should change sides the Russians pay us by the hour rofl

irocfan

Original Poster:

40,475 posts

190 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Ghibli said:
And how many people do you think would vote Brexit again because of what 'slasher ' wrote and what was written on the Guardian message board.

Is it really a reason to vote for Brexit again. How did they manage to vote for Brexit before the referendum.

It just doesn't make sense, hence asking where this abuse happens.
Just do a Google search there seems to be more of it about than I thought

danllama

5,728 posts

142 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Where on the referendum ballot did it say "I vote for a deal with the EU"? Oh...

Yet somehow the bitter remainers have kicked and screamed until they actually, genuinely believe we should have another vote, and if we don't get another one, we'll have an election to try and elect our Anti-semite savior.

I don't want a deal with the EU! I want nothing to do with it. No need for cherry picking. Don't want to trade freely with us?? Fine, good luck.

dromond

689 posts

220 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Ghibli said:
To be honest you are more likely to find people on this forum saying that they are called stupid racist than are actually being called stupid racist.

We even have people saying they would vote Brexit again because the are called stupid racist.

The Guardian message board is one example. Where does it happen or has the goal post now moved to insinuating.
Your irony and twisting is in a universe of its own, nobody was mentioning 'stupid racists' at all until guess what?...
you did, yes that's correct...you!. So what are you going to twist to get out of that one?, you wrote it, you brought it up. Once again poor choice of rhetoric from the master of rhetorical poorness.
I see RTB's post hasn't inspired much comment from you either, a bit out of your depth with that one eh. hehe

Deptford Draylons

10,480 posts

243 months

Tuesday 25th September 2018
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Ghibli said:
Deptford Draylons said:
Did you not read or understand the bit where I said few say it outright ? It wasn't my claim. Hardly a surprise you went off on one talking about snowflakes though, as a diversion.
If you make sweeping statements that I voted to stop all immigrants, you don't have to take a huge leap of imagination to wonder if they aren't basically calling racism. This is the common place PH thing, must of the loon fringe of vocal Remainers here lack any guts to call it outright is my feeling.
No one is calling you anything. I'm asking where people are being called stupid racist. I don't see It on here but I do see people saying they are called it.

You seem to be under the impression that people are insinuating that you are. I'm certainly not.
So in the example I gave you, you don't believe anyone is lazily insinuating racism ? Got it.