How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)

[Jonesy23]

I thought last time this came up I heard from the people that currently do shipping, distribution and retail on a commercial basis for things like food and medicine that this was an unnecessary effort, and pointless anyway because it would be so pathetically tiny compared to the normal day to day scale of things?

Or in simpler terms the whole thing was stupid scaremongering.

[mx5nut]

don'tbesilly said:

mx5nut said:

In Brexiter fantasy land: The EU was holding us back - we will be the next silicon valley as soon as we've escaped their clutches.

Back in the real world: Britain is drawing up plans to charter ships to bring in food and medicines in the event of a “no-deal” Brexit next March

With so many comments from Leavers and Remainers in regards just how incompetent the Govt are, if the headline is true it indicates the Govt is serious about the possibility of not reaching a mutually agreeable arrangement for the UK to leave the EU and is making very sensible contingency plans.

Imagine needing contingency plans like chartering boats to deliver emergency food and medicine to your citizens because of something your government chose to do. We've come a long way from the sunlit uplands we were promised.

[FiF]

The Dangerous Elk said:

gooner1 said:

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good for fans of a 2nd referendum. Oh well

I thought it was "A Peoples Vote" or was it a bit of "Extra Democracy vote" or was it a "Check.....

ahhh fk this, none of them are happening anyway.

I heard the Government were ordering extra polling station notices ready for the extra democracy, they're planning for a best of seven run.

[crankedup]

FiF said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

gooner1 said:

Oh dear, that doesn't sound good for fans of a 2nd referendum. Oh well

I thought it was "A Peoples Vote" or was it a bit of "Extra Democracy vote" or was it a "Check.....

ahhh fk this, none of them are happening anyway.

I heard the Government were ordering extra polling station notices ready for the extra democracy, they're planning for a best of seven run.

The extra polling booths are ready for dispatch throughout the Country. Didn’t imagine the old red telephone box would find a secondary use, still plenty big enough for that ‘people’s vote’.

[mx5nut]

Remember, it's the fault of those who voted Remain not believing in the country enough who are to blame for Brexit going badly.

[Allanv]

mx5nut said:

Remember, it's the fault of those who voted Remain not believing in the country enough who are to blame for Brexit going badly.

Thick SM idiots again.

aww bless. Snowflakes

[don'tbesilly]

mx5nut said:

Remember, it's the fault of those who voted Remain not believing in the country enough who are to blame for Brexit going badly.

Bit part actor and unremarkable comedian, becomes better known for posting Remainer propaganda on Twitter, where the nut spends his life getting all dewy eyed and moist.

#Pray4mx5nut

[alfie2244]

don'tbesilly said:

Bit part actor and unremarkable comedian, becomes better known for posting Remainer propaganda on Twitter, where the nut spends his life getting all dewy eyed and moist.

#Pray4mx5nut

Knew he was an unremarkable comedian but I didn't realise our very own nutter was a bit part actor as well......with posting his drivel on here all hours as well, it's a wonder he finds the time.

[Tuna]

jsf said:

The different ways corporate bankruptcy is treated in Europe and the USA has a big impact on the number of entrepreneurs willing to take the risk of a new start-up.

In the modern tech world where the rewards can come very quickly, the USA corporate and law structures make that an easier option.

China is just pumping funny money at everything, no one knows for sure if its a financial success or a completely bankrupt system is being propped up by a dodgy government. Thats why the rich Chinese are buying the world's assets, they are terrified the charade will end and the government seizes all their assets in the country.

It's fairly amusing that it's regularly the Leavers on here who have a better grasp of these issues. Any Remainer could have posted that and it would have been just as true, and a very valid response to the 'lack of innovation' in the EU. Instead we got a sweeping dismissal of companies that together have turnovers larger than small nations and a toys out of the pram moment from Mr Banana.

The UK is doing pretty well in fintech and biotech, but most innovation seems to be despite programmes like Horizon 2020 rather than because of it. One of the important Brexit battlegrounds will be moving research and tech investment forward once we leave the cosy club. There will be lots of indignant squeals if the current system is not exactly reproduced, but I'm not convinced it's delivering real value.

[F1GTRUeno]

Dr Jekyll said:

The world didn't always use Facebook, it originated as a competitor to Myspace.

The point is, why on earth did no EU company fill these niches in the first place?

Yeah I'm well aware. It actually originated as a way to connect people at Harvard university and was absolutely nothing to do with MySpace. Zuckerberg saw that people were interested in both promoting their own lives and spying on others and made a website for it. SImple.

No EU company came up with it because they...didn't?

Facebook was the idea of one man. He could've been born anywhere, he invented something because....he did?

That's kinda how inventions work. It's not down to regulations or governments, it's just down to smart people from anywhere in the world seeing the need for something.

I have no idea what the EU and any EU company has to do with the creation of Facebook, Myspace, eBay, Amazon or anything like that. Same for any other part of the world. They're the ideas of one person or a few people and they just happen, every day.

[wisbech]

In the UK Facebook was called Friends Reunited and predated Facebook by 3 years or so.

Their failing to become Facebook had nothing to do with the EU or UK govt

[Smiler.]

mx5nut said:

Imagine needing contingency plans like chartering boats to deliver emergency food and medicine to your citizens because of something your government chose to do. We've come a long way from the sunlit uplands we were promised.

Delivering emergency food to it's citizens? Excellent idea. I've lost count of the number of times I've needed an emergency kebab, but had to go hungry. Not any more though.

And I'll never have to queue in the chemist again, either.

Only Brexit could deliver.

Sunny uplands indeed.

[mx5nut]

don'tbesilly said:

mx5nut said:

Remember, it's the fault of those who voted Remain not believing in the country enough who are to blame for Brexit going badly.

Bit part actor and unremarkable comedian, becomes better known for posting Remainer propaganda on Twitter, where the nut spends his life getting all dewy eyed and moist.

#Pray4mx5nut

Facts. The word you are looking for is facts.

[gruffalo]

mx5nut said:

don'tbesilly said:

mx5nut said:

Remember, it's the fault of those who voted Remain not believing in the country enough who are to blame for Brexit going badly.

Bit part actor and unremarkable comedian, becomes better known for posting Remainer propaganda on Twitter, where the nut spends his life getting all dewy eyed and moist.

#Pray4mx5nut

Facts. The word you are looking for is facts.

Taken out of context ant reduced to a snippet that completely distorts the actual fact.

Take Reese Mog as an example, the real story is that a multi national hedge fund company does indeed open an office in Dublin because the market in Ireland has now reached a level where they need representatives in that country.

So not quite as put forward by this very badly constructed tweet, we it is badly constructed if he was trying to be factual but I somehow feel that wasn't his objective.

[FiF]

Some recent research that results in a no st Sherlock finding.

Anyway very few people identify themselves with a political party compared to yesteryear. However the Brexit divide is far more noticeable and entrenched, and contrary to claims but folks really aren't changing their minds.

Another finding, people identifying themselves strongly as Remainers on the subject of immigration want EU migrants to be treated completely differently from migrants from nonEU countries, whereas Leavers on the other hand want people to be treated equally and fairly.

As I said no st Sherlock, stuff written here before.

BTW does that make slasher a racist?

In other news Varadkar is getting a real mauling for his badly judged and intemperate tweet yesterday, now deleted of course, about paying back a debt to the UK.

[amusingduck]

FiF said:

In other news Varadkar is getting a real mauling for his badly judged and intemperate tweet yesterday, now deleted of course, about paying back a debt to the UK.

This?



I think that's a perfectly reasonable response tbh.

[DMN]

UKIP MEP's where in Brussels in force yesterday for just about the first time ever. Where they fighting for the UK to get the best terms possible?


Where they fk! It was a meeting on their benefits/pay post-brexit. Contemptible scum.

[psi310398]

DMN said:

UKIP MEP's where in Brussels in force yesterday for just about the first time ever. Where they fighting for the UK to get the best terms possible?


Where they fk! It was a meeting on their benefits/pay post-brexit. Contemptible scum.

If only we could pay our MPs by results!

[SpeckledJim]

That Varadkar tweet is, well, Trumpian.

You can, if you're happy to look a , just front that out if you're the leader of the free world.

Ireland has got enough to be embarrassed and worried about at the moment that perhaps he should be a bit less ballsy.

[Smiler.]

Hey, don't knock the offer. We'll need everything available if Corbyn gets within 100m of Downing St.