How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)
Discussion
Tuna said:
Lol. Just give me a number. What is going to materially change? You really don't know do you? Endlessly repeating that WTO is bad makes you look pretty stupid if you don't actually have a single example of what is going to change.
Just give us one example of an exported good, and how it will change under WTO for an importing nation.
You want me to find tarrifs under a FTA and then tarriffs under WTO on our exports.Just give us one example of an exported good, and how it will change under WTO for an importing nation.
The only one who is looking stupid is you if you think WTO is better than a FTA.
digimeistter said:
Ghibli said:
I wonder why the better posters no longer want to discuss the negotiations with you.
Because the trolls have been suspended, helicopter, Trolleys, slasher, Sid, et al, just waiting for MrrT to cross the line 
Ghibli said:
You want me to find tarrifs under a FTA and then tarriffs under WTO on our exports.
The only one who is looking stupid is you if you think WTO is better than a FTA.
Still trying to tell me what I think? I'm asking you the material difference, not saying that WTO is better. The only one who is looking stupid is you if you think WTO is better than a FTA.
This was your big chance to show how well you follow the negotiations, how much you know - yet you cannot answer even a simple question.
Night night
Coolbanana said:
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/john-...
Spot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
Oh look the fantasist returns promoting Mr Family values and 'back to basics'.Spot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
The basics meaning being a hypocrite promoting something he failed to do himself as Edwina had proven far too alluring in the past, and Norma didn't 'egg' John on enough.
Carry on Walt, your posts are amusing.
Tuna said:
Ghibli said:
You want me to find tarrifs under a FTA and then tarriffs under WTO on our exports.
The only one who is looking stupid is you if you think WTO is better than a FTA.
Still trying to tell me what I think? I'm asking you the material difference, not saying that WTO is better. The only one who is looking stupid is you if you think WTO is better than a FTA.
This was your big chance to show how well you follow the negotiations, how much you know - yet you cannot answer even a simple question.
Night night
We currently trade tarriff free with the EU. If we trade under WTO tarriffs will be applied.
Do you get it now?
Coolbanana said:
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/john-...
Spot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
Jesus there is an echo in thereSpot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
First comment said:
This from our worst ever Prime minister who supposedly had but three o levels and some dubious other degree behind him on his route to becoming the worst ever Prime Minister and who also created a minor political scandal of his own making with a certain other egg hating Tory lady MP, which today would possibly classed as an abuse of position in itself in our crazy EU inspired Politically corrrect world,
The same guy that signed away every right that Britain once had within the EU when he signed us up to Maastricht when the public never had any say in it
He's only loving the EU because he's one of them, He's the cause of Brexit not the cure for Brexit, He and the EU elite and their tens of thousands of EU employees all live lavish life styles that we who pay for it will never enjoy, we pay and they dictate how much, they truly live the life of riley while we survive as best we can trying to earn a living under an EU inspired beaurocracy that would destroy 90% of hopeful new business's before they get a chance to succeed, they do this deliberately to keep their huge EU corporations safe from new threats and they also dine off the back of it by way of a thank you from those they protect, it's rotten to the core.
Sorry Mr Major, but your wrong and also dishonest about how the EU is good for us in the UK, it's not it's an extra tier of beuarocracy at we neither need, want nor can afford.
Your spinning a web of lies and false fears Mr Majors, the sooner we are out of it the better and only a NO DEAL will ensure the clean break we voted for.
The same guy that signed away every right that Britain once had within the EU when he signed us up to Maastricht when the public never had any say in it
He's only loving the EU because he's one of them, He's the cause of Brexit not the cure for Brexit, He and the EU elite and their tens of thousands of EU employees all live lavish life styles that we who pay for it will never enjoy, we pay and they dictate how much, they truly live the life of riley while we survive as best we can trying to earn a living under an EU inspired beaurocracy that would destroy 90% of hopeful new business's before they get a chance to succeed, they do this deliberately to keep their huge EU corporations safe from new threats and they also dine off the back of it by way of a thank you from those they protect, it's rotten to the core.
Sorry Mr Major, but your wrong and also dishonest about how the EU is good for us in the UK, it's not it's an extra tier of beuarocracy at we neither need, want nor can afford.
Your spinning a web of lies and false fears Mr Majors, the sooner we are out of it the better and only a NO DEAL will ensure the clean break we voted for.
Reply to first comment said:
can't idiots like you just shut up? why is there always some moron defending brexit mouthing off about facts they cannot even add up? can i ask you, do you have an education? do you read the sun news paper or maybe you are a massive daily express fan? you know the one with big pictures in it and very few words?
The EU is the best thing that ever happened to the UK and unlike you it actually has a purpose. That is to prevent war and encourage free trade while developing third world country's into a financially developed country's that will enhance the economic value of the investors home lands once they have got to the same level.
Now this all must be a lot for a short sighted racist thicky such as yourself to take in,most of the good ones have or will leave with that thing called money and trade you won't have. I sincerely hope you learn the harshest lesson you possibly can from this all. I hope all the harshest realities that have been put forward by educated professionals (that people like you attack for speaking because that is what primates do.) I hope they all come down hard on your head. One day you are going to be very sorry and you even know it when you look at yourself in the mirror. You are shouting angry for the sake of your own voice to be heard. You are shouting like a two year old child, like most of the really stupid people that voted for Brexit. You are nothing more than a child trying to blame other people for your faults.
Now shut up and let the adults talk for a change.
The EU is the best thing that ever happened to the UK and unlike you it actually has a purpose. That is to prevent war and encourage free trade while developing third world country's into a financially developed country's that will enhance the economic value of the investors home lands once they have got to the same level.
Now this all must be a lot for a short sighted racist thicky such as yourself to take in,most of the good ones have or will leave with that thing called money and trade you won't have. I sincerely hope you learn the harshest lesson you possibly can from this all. I hope all the harshest realities that have been put forward by educated professionals (that people like you attack for speaking because that is what primates do.) I hope they all come down hard on your head. One day you are going to be very sorry and you even know it when you look at yourself in the mirror. You are shouting angry for the sake of your own voice to be heard. You are shouting like a two year old child, like most of the really stupid people that voted for Brexit. You are nothing more than a child trying to blame other people for your faults.
Now shut up and let the adults talk for a change.
I'm reminded of this
https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs?list=RDRMHN5BnD00E
don'tbesilly said:
Coolbanana said:
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/john-...
Spot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
Oh look the fantasist returns promoting Mr Family values and 'back to basics'.Spot on assessment by John Major.
Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .
The basics meaning being a hypocrite promoting something he failed to do himself as Edwina had proven far too alluring in the past, and Norma didn't 'egg' John on enough.
Carry on Walt, your posts are amusing.
PurpleMoonlight said:
To be honest I don't believe a word the Treasury says if the subject is Brexit. The cabinet would be wise to take the same approach. Earthdweller said:
As an aside, if the EU puts up a hard border to protect itself from the U.K.
How can the U.K. continue to provide troops on the other side of the border protecting the EU’s Eastern borders as it does now ?
The implications of this would hit European security to the core and affect NATO
If the EU continues with their current path of treating the UK as a rebellious province that needs to be "punished" then regardless of whatever security agreements are reached then you would question the viability of us remaining "allies"How can the U.K. continue to provide troops on the other side of the border protecting the EU’s Eastern borders as it does now ?
The implications of this would hit European security to the core and affect NATO
If over the next decade or so the only threats to the prosperity and security of the UK are coming from the EU what public appetite will there be for sending British troops to fight to defend their borders?
This is all irrelevant at the moment as the security of Europe is guaranteed by the USA. But if Trump is just the start and America retreats into isolationism then this becomes far more relevant.
JagLover said:
If the EU continues with their current path of treating the UK as a rebellious province that needs to be "punished" then regardless of whatever security agreements are reached then you would question the viability of us remaining "allies"
If over the next decade or so the only threats to the prosperity and security of the UK are coming from the EU what public appetite will there be for sending British troops to fight to defend their borders?
This is all irrelevant at the moment as the security of Europe is guaranteed by the USA. But if Trump is just the start and America retreats into isolationism then this becomes far more relevant.
Sadly our sIf over the next decade or so the only threats to the prosperity and security of the UK are coming from the EU what public appetite will there be for sending British troops to fight to defend their borders?
This is all irrelevant at the moment as the security of Europe is guaranteed by the USA. But if Trump is just the start and America retreats into isolationism then this becomes far more relevant.
t PM and her remainer advisors have rather than disabuse the EU of thinking we are just a rebellious province they have played into there hands by being weak and crumbly ....PurpleMoonlight said:
The government ought to decide which legal advice it will follow, having already been advised of a different position some time ago. If Mr Hammond's department is not it, then May needs to provide balance and censure him as much as she has done people like Johnson.
If his department's advice is the one to be listened to, then perhaps someone should have a word with the law Lords.
Frankly I do not want Hammond in charge of that department if he's simply going to roll over and pay huge sums without challenge. I've been seriously sceptical of his approach on the economy over the last 18mths anyway. This just adds to me thinking the bloke is way too wet.
I also wonder what enters their minds to be saying stuff like that in public whilst in the middle of a negotiation. We're exiting. Their job is to get the best possible position in the negotiations. He doesn't seem to get that.
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