How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)

[Russian Troll Bot]

FiF said:

don'tbesilly said:

Coolbanana said:

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/john-...

Spot on assessment by John Major.

Those deceitful snakes will be remembered for how they conned 17 million... .

Oh look the fantasist returns promoting Mr Family values and 'back to basics'.

The basics meaning being a hypocrite promoting something he failed to do himself as Edwina had proven far too alluring in the past, and Norma didn't 'egg' John on enough.

Carry on Walt, your posts are amusing.

From Twitter, makes more sense than frigidplantain's baiting.

Here he is in 2015 stating a second referendum is not credible and "if we vote to stay out we are out"

https://twitter.com/BrexitTory_/status/10523308630...

[slow_poke]

What's this I'm hearing about the transition period being extended by a year to allow May to sidestep the Irish Backstop question entirely by allowing enough time for a full trade deal to be hammered out, one that means there will be no need for a Backstop?

Transition period extended by a year? I smell fudge.....

[fakenews]

slow_poke said:

Transition period extended by a year? I smell fudge.....

Agree. We need to fall out of Europe HARD, deal with any issues (not like any other non-EU country has issues with survival) and explain the Irish border is also their border and their own problem to fix. Looking forward to cheaper non-EU imports.

[Jonesy23]

slow_poke said:

What's this I'm hearing about the transition period being extended by a year to allow May to sidestep the Irish Backstop question entirely by allowing enough time for a full trade deal to be hammered out, one that means there will be no need for a Backstop?

Transition period extended by a year? I smell fudge.....

Denied. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-impl...

[slow_poke]

Jonesy23 said:

slow_poke said:

What's this I'm hearing about the transition period being extended by a year to allow May to sidestep the Irish Backstop question entirely by allowing enough time for a full trade deal to be hammered out, one that means there will be no need for a Backstop?

Transition period extended by a year? I smell fudge.....

Denied. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-impl...

Wellllllllll, kind of. BritGov isn't and hasn't asked for it, but the EU are offering it.....

Deffo smell of fudge on the air. And what's that clattering noise I hear? Is that the sound of a can being kicked even further down the road?

[anonymous-user]

JagLover said:

To be honest I don't believe a word the Treasury says if the subject is Brexit. The cabinet would be wise to take the same approach.

Considering £20 billion is for the transition period payments, that doesnt add up.

Unless of course Hammond is bullstting again.

[The Dangerous Elk]

jsf said:

Considering £20 billion is for the transition period payments, that doesnt add up.

Unless of course Hammond is bullstting again.

The Treasury uses the same calculators as Dianne Abacus ?

[PurpleMoonlight]

jsf said:

Considering £20 billion is for the transition period payments, that doesnt add up.

Unless of course Hammond is bullstting again.

The theory is we are still liable for subscriptions for the remainder of the budget cycle. The transition negates the argument, but if there isn't one there may be a legal dispute instead.

[anonymous-user]

PurpleMoonlight said:

The theory is we are still liable for subscriptions for the remainder of the budget cycle. The transition negates the argument, but if there isn't one there may be a legal dispute instead.

All treaties end in march. Good luck to them trying to win a court case in any timely manner that doesn't sink their budget plans. I'd give it 20 years before its settled if that ended up in any court.

[gooner1]

PurpleMoonlight said:

At least until the writ lands on the doormat of No. 10.

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No 11 , surely?

[Tuna]

Ghibli said:

Oh dear Tuna.

We currently trade tarriff free with the EU. If we trade under WTO tarriffs will be applied.

Do you get it now?

Nearly there.. So what is the average WTO tariff that the EU applies? For a bonus, is it bigger or smaller than the drop in the pound after the Referendum?

The markets priced in a no deal Brexit two years ago. The current record employment levels, highest wage increases for nine years and so on are a 'we haven't left yet' bonus, or did you think the economy was powered by Remainers failing to understand how trade works?

It seems you really don't get it.

[PurpleMoonlight]

jsf said:

All treaties end in march. Good luck to them trying to win a court case in any timely manner that doesn't sink their budget plans. I'd give it 20 years before its settled if that ended up in any court.

The treaty might, but the liability agreed to when the treaty was effective might not.

[The Dangerous Elk]

PurpleMoonlight said:

The treaty might, but the liability agreed to when the treaty was effective might not.

Then the service should still be provided in full without restriction ?

[CAPP0]

slow_poke said:

but the EU are offering it.....

It rather feels that if the EU offer something which TM can grasp at and which will allow her to announce parrot-fashion from a prepared script, thus not having to make any final decisions nor answer any awkward questions in the meantime, she'll have their arm off.

slow_poke said:

Is that the sound of a can being kicked even further down the road?

Being kicked long and far enough to ensure that someone else other than TM has to actually pick it up.

[PurpleMoonlight]

The Dangerous Elk said:

Then the service should still be provided in full without restriction ?

If you walk away from a contract, more often than not you don't enjoy the benefits of that contract even if you remain liable for a financial cost incurred within it.

[PurpleMoonlight]

gooner1 said:

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No 11 , surely?

I would think the EU will be suing the UK, rather than just the Treasury.

[anonymous-user]

Tuna said:

Ghibli said:

Oh dear Tuna.

We currently trade tarriff free with the EU. If we trade under WTO tarriffs will be applied.

Do you get it now?

Nearly there.. So what is the average WTO tariff that the EU applies? For a bonus, is it bigger or smaller than the drop in the pound after the Referendum?

The markets priced in a no deal Brexit two years ago. The current record employment levels, highest wage increases for nine years and so on are a 'we haven't left yet' bonus, or did you think the economy was powered by Remainers failing to understand how trade works?

It seems you really don't get it.

What difference does it make what tarriffs the EU applies We currently dont have tarriffs.

Why do you think people don't want no deal?

Which bit are you struggling with ? How will it help having the average EU tarriff when it's obvious to most people that no tarriffs is better than wTO.

You appear to want to fixate on one small thing to ignore the bigger picture.

[Vanden Saab]

PurpleMoonlight said:

I would think the EU will be suing the UK, rather than just the Treasury.

And how do you think that would go? It is a different thing to win in a court you do not control. How many other countries would want to risk signing treaties with such an organisation?

[PurpleMoonlight]

Vanden Saab said:

And how do you think that would go? It is a different thing to win in a court you do not control. How many other countries would want to risk signing treaties with such an organisation?

No idea who would win.

Yes, if we default on the EU it doesn't look good for our world status or future trade utopia.

[amusingduck]

PurpleMoonlight said:

Vanden Saab said:

And how do you think that would go? It is a different thing to win in a court you do not control. How many other countries would want to risk signing treaties with such an organisation?

No idea who would win.

Yes, if we default on the EU it doesn't look good for our world status or future trade utopia.

Who said anything about defaulting?