How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 5)
Discussion
GT03ROB said:
Bloody hell I came on this thread to see how the negotiations were going....all I've read is people post abuse about each other...... does this mean negotiations are going badly?? 
Looks like it to me, and if the handbags, personalities and petty squabbling doesn't disappear then this volume of the thread will!It really is your choice guys.
GT03ROB said:
Bloody hell I came on this thread to see how the negotiations were going....all I've read is people post abuse about each other...... does this mean negotiations are going badly??
Everything is going great. Barnier wants us to stay in the customs union and the No deal Brexit warnings are being released weekly.Any minute now the EU will bend over backwards so that the Germans can sell us cars that apparently we won't be buying because we will be buying from the rest of the world instead.
Ghibli said:
alfie2244 said:
I could have just reported him and not said anything like others do.......you think continually baiting and Trolling with the "Johnny Foreigner" angle promotes healthy discussion / debate then do you?
I'm not sure why you would be offended by something that doesn't apply to you. Only you will know why you are offended when you should be happy that you voted to stop freedom of movement.
I voted to "control movement from worldwide" but you knew that really.
PurpleMoonlight said:
I think you have posted that on every volume so far.
It's still as rubbish as it ever was.
Your reasons for staying or leaving were, by your own admission, equal. Perhaps try and be more balanced on vol5 to reflect that?It's still as rubbish as it ever was.
Case in point - heli123 posted the same nonsense being responded to on the last volume (I'm not sure he was old enough to be on the previous 3). Perhaps call that out too?
Murph7355 said:
Your reasons for staying or leaving were, by your own admission, equal. Perhaps try and be more balanced on vol5 to reflect that?
Case in point - heli123 posted the same nonsense being responded to on the last volume (I'm not sure he was old enough to be on the previous 3). Perhaps call that out too?
Well, every time I think about calling out one of his posts I find that half a dozen have got in before me.Case in point - heli123 posted the same nonsense being responded to on the last volume (I'm not sure he was old enough to be on the previous 3). Perhaps call that out too?
According to articles in the Daily Mail today at last the German car manufacturing bosses are ‘advising’ the EU negotiating members to stop the posturing and antagonising PM May and get a decent deal agreed. Sounds very much like the Germans are getting nervous as much as U.K. bosses, which was always going to be the way.
PurpleMoonlight said:
Murph7355 said:
Your reasons for staying or leaving were, by your own admission, equal. Perhaps try and be more balanced on vol5 to reflect that?
Case in point - heli123 posted the same nonsense being responded to on the last volume (I'm not sure he was old enough to be on the previous 3). Perhaps call that out too?
Well, every time I think about calling out one of his posts I find that half a dozen have got in before me.Case in point - heli123 posted the same nonsense being responded to on the last volume (I'm not sure he was old enough to be on the previous 3). Perhaps call that out too?
Ghibli said:
Getting back on topic.
Apparently Andrea Leadsom is threatening to quit.
Deeply upsetting that another Brexit supporter is thinking of giving up. If only the remainers would give her a chance to shine with a Brexit plan.
So you think that she should continue to support a plan that she disagrees with and (in her current position) cannot influence? Why is that?Apparently Andrea Leadsom is threatening to quit.
Deeply upsetting that another Brexit supporter is thinking of giving up. If only the remainers would give her a chance to shine with a Brexit plan.
Edited by Tuna on Saturday 13th October 15:19
Helicopter123 said:
That’s not trolling, it’s simply showing the uncomfortable truth in your deeply flawed argument.
Truth hurts.
Talking of trolling and flawed arguments, I asked you a question earlier. I'd hate to think you were unable to justify the claims you made and were just repeating a deeply flawed argument.Truth hurts.
Tuna said:
Perhaps you can explain how much the proposed customs processing (under Chequers) is going to cost, and how much of an effect it's going to have on businesses located in the UK?
Tuna said:
So you think that she should continue to support a plan that she disagrees with and (in her current position) cannot influence? Why is that?
Which version of Brexit does she support.Edited by Tuna on Saturday 13th October 15:19
Obviously not the May or Mogg Minford versions.
Ghibli said:
Tuna said:
So you think that she should continue to support a plan that she disagrees with and (in her current position) cannot influence? Why is that?
Which version of Brexit does she support.Edited by Tuna on Saturday 13th October 15:19
Obviously not the May or Mogg Minford versions.
I'd align her more with the original Davis plan which prior to Chequers was recognised as a viable plan, however it became clear after Chequers, May had been working against such a plan, and no-one apart from May and a selected cabal knew that.
What followed was a resignation by Davis and Johnson, Leadsom gave May some rope to see if she would change her plan and not concede further, which May is now doing, hence Leadsoms alleged threats to quit IMO.
So what we are seeing is Tory MP's standing by what was promised as a result of the referendum, and what was promised by May in her Lancaster House speech and in her own manifesto.
It's not difficult to work out.
don'tbesilly said:
Leadsom doesn't support May's version of Brexit because it's not Brexit, but anyone who pays the slightest bit of attention to the negotiations knows that.
I'd align her more with the original Davis plan which prior to Chequers was recognised as a viable plan, however it became clear after Chequers, May had been working against such a plan, and no-one apart from May and a selected cabal knew that.
What followed was a resignation by Davis and Johnson, Leadsom gave May some rope to see if she would change her plan and not concede further, which May is now doing, hence Leadsoms alleged threats to quit IMO.
So what we are seeing is Tory MP's standing by what was promised as a result of the referendum, and what was promised by May in her Lancaster House speech and in her own manifesto.
It's not difficult to work out.
What we are seeing is people's visions of Brexit failing and MP's resigning.I'd align her more with the original Davis plan which prior to Chequers was recognised as a viable plan, however it became clear after Chequers, May had been working against such a plan, and no-one apart from May and a selected cabal knew that.
What followed was a resignation by Davis and Johnson, Leadsom gave May some rope to see if she would change her plan and not concede further, which May is now doing, hence Leadsoms alleged threats to quit IMO.
So what we are seeing is Tory MP's standing by what was promised as a result of the referendum, and what was promised by May in her Lancaster House speech and in her own manifesto.
It's not difficult to work out.
It's not difficult to work out. It's just a case of people realising that they didn't know what Brexit will actually be.
don'tbesilly said:
I'd align her more with the original Davis plan which prior to Chequers was recognised as a viable plan, however it became clear after Chequers, May had been working against such a plan, and no-one apart from May and a selected cabal knew that.
Do you mean the plan which included mutual recognition of standards. Which completely ignored the EU red lines.It might have been viable to the UK but it was never going to be accepted by the EU.
crankedup said:
According to articles in the Daily Mail today at last the German car manufacturing bosses are ‘advising’ the EU negotiating members to stop the posturing and antagonising PM May and get a decent deal agreed. Sounds very much like the Germans are getting nervous as much as U.K. bosses, which was always going to be the way.
Business will start to have their say now and the politicians will fall into line on the back of that. Think they have had enough of the nonsense.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff