Free teas / coffees for on a shout firefighters?

Free teas / coffees for on a shout firefighters?

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selym

9,544 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Rick101 said:
spaximus said:
If I am at a coffee shop and a nurse, Dr are buying a coffee I will always buy them one. Same if I see a cop, fireman or solider, usually a drink which is a little thank you.

Only time it went a bit wrong was when I offered to buy two squaddies a drink of coffee on the services at Donington, just as they agreed 10 more came out of the toilets. Still did it as just returning from Afghanistan they deserved it.

If I had been at the McDonalds I would have bought those guy's a drink in a heartbeat.
I work in an office. Would you buy me one?

What exactly is your criteria for free drinks?
Not for desk jockeys, hopefully.

[Posted from my desk]

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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yellowjack said:
JuniorD said:
I know plenty of doctor consultants who in a queue for a drink wouldn't offer to buy ANY colleague, junior or otherwise, a drink so they can fk right off any list of people worth rewarding with free drinks. The same A-holes don't know what a round is or what reciprocation means, and I don't just mean the English ones!
Ah well.

Meanwhile, elsewhere (possibly) I was on crutches and early for a fracture clinic appointment, so went up to the hospital canteen to treat myself to breakfast. I had an obvious problem in how I was going to get a breakfast tray over to a table. Staff behind the servery had told me I'd have to wait a few minutes for their assistance (they were clearly all busy), but a senior consultant anesthetist readily stepped out of the queue to help me out. The same chap carried my rubbish to the bin for me when I'd finished too, before heading back to finish his coffee.

Oh, and the department where my wife works? Erm, all the junior staff have their Christmas party paid for by the consultants. The clinical lead sorts it all out. Staff only pay for partners or extra guests they want to bring along. Proper black tie night out too, not some grubby room out the back of a local pub...
Your wife is lucky. In my wife's department the consultants (about 15 of them) chipped in to buy the 15 or so registrars a joint Christmas present....a £7 box of sweets. The miserable buggers are each grossing about £250k a year with their NHS and private work yet could only muster a 50 pence contribution to a once-a-year gift hehe





Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Noodle1982 said:
Only about 12 pages too late with that question.

It has been discussed in length.
I noticed. You still sound like a muppet.

Greendubber

13,213 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Swaggered into a McDonalds today for a McPiss after finishing a very early morning job, caught a whiff of the double sausage and egg McMuffins so ordered a meal as I was on my arse and hungry. Got offered staff discount and an extra free coffee to go with my meals orange juice.
I told them not to worry about it but they put it on anyway, I banged the difference into the charity box and then swiftly got sent to another job so it sat in the car and got cold.

FML frown

I reckon they'd have charged the squirters full price though hehe


Edited by Greendubber on Wednesday 17th October 17:57

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Greendubber said:
Swaggered into a McDonalds today for a McPiss after finishing a very early morning job, caught a whiff of the double sausage and egg McMuffins so ordered a meal as I was on my arse and hungry. Got offered staff discount and an extra free coffee to go with my meals orange juice.
I told them not to worry about it but they put it on anyway, I banged the difference into the charity box and then swiftly got sent to another job so it sat in the car and got cold.

FML frown

I reckon they'd have charged the squirters full price though hehe


Edited by Greendubber on Wednesday 17th October 17:57
I guess if you work for Mcdonalds then staff discount is a nice perk

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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anonymous said:
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Milkman? I don't tip him, but then again, he delivers at around 1am, so I don't know him. But we've only ever had one bad pint, and that was one that froze solid and burst the bottle in VERY cold weather. best before/use by dates are always great too.

Bin men people? No tips there, either. But I often chat with them if they're collecting while I'm about. Lovely bunch of lads and lasses. I've offered to fill flasks/mugs for them in properly foul weather just as a kindness because I know what it's like to work in grotty weather.

Postie? Again, why would you tip them? The regular chap on the route my house is in is great. Funny, chatty, polite, and wears shorts even in the coldest weather. His job is to deliver mail that his employer is contracted to deliver. He does it very well too. But why a tip?

I've asked this before, because my wife and I both have jobs where accepting gifts/tips isn't just discouraged, it's forbidden. Wife is a nurse, and they're just about permitted to accept a box of biscuits or chocolates "for the department". I was in the army, on the resources/stores side of things. We were absolutely forbidden from accepting gifts lest we show favouritism to one supplier over another. Especially those of us with a government credit card. It put us in awkward situations buying building materials in Saudi Arabia and/or Kuwait though. Everything seemed to be done that way over there, with suppliers wining andwink dining contract customers. It didn't stop a colleague from coming back with a Rolex from one supplier, but he couldn't really let on about it while he was still in uniform. As someone who, at various times, was a keyholder for armouries and explosives and ammunition stores, getting buttered up by someone outside the army would have swiftly led to disciplinary action, possibly followed by dismissal and loss of pension. So why, as people who are forbidden (with good reason, as far as I can see) from accepting gratuities, should we be expected to give such gratuities to others?

Tipping is outmoded. In the UK at least, it's a throwback to the "tradesman's entrance" era, a condescending pat on the head for the poorly paid from the wealthy. The wealthy who got that way by treading on the poorly paid. Nowadays, a tradesman is likely to be pretty well paid, especially a self-employed one. Certainly better off than me living off my pension. And those jobs listed above? As far as I understand it, they pay wages in line with the "going rate" and if they don't pay enough then either negotiate better terms or get another job. If your boss is a tight-wad, don't look to me to make up the shortfall.

Volvo1956

448 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Calm down dear..... I tip and treat who I like. As a moral gesture not to bribe etc.
But surprise surprise which worker is likely to go the extra mile for a customer .... I would think the one who's been treated well.
Not just monetary but say a decent brew when working outside.
Some individuals wouldn't give the steam off their horse st never mind their own.

Volvo1956

448 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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anonymous said:
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Are you on this planet..... I think there's a subtle difference between extinguishing a major fire and leaving a bit of debris in the road from an overfilled bin!!!!

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Volvo1956

448 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Anyway letting Trumpton or any other service or organisation have freebies whatever the circumstances is likely to lead to problems.
Once word gets round every man and his dog will be milking it.
If you can't stump up £3.99 Then why should anyone else.
Too many tight fisted short arms long pockets people in society who hate parting with their dosh.

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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DoubleD said:


When men were men, and firefighters really earned their pay.

Refreshments courtesy of the Salvation Army, WRVS, etc... wink

limpsfield

5,885 posts

253 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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yellowjack said:
I was in the army,
I didn't know you were in the army yellowjack. Thank you for your service. Do you have any stories?

yellowjack

17,078 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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limpsfield said:
yellowjack said:
I was in the army,
I didn't know you were in the army yellowjack. Thank you for your service. Do you have any stories?
If I had any "not in the army" stories, I'd happily share them. But I don't.


So pull up a sandbag, and I'll set the lantern a-swinging, then you can hear all about my Op Fresco experiences, just to get us back onto the topic... tongue out

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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yellowjack said:
limpsfield said:
yellowjack said:
I was in the army,
I didn't know you were in the army yellowjack. Thank you for your service. Do you have any stories?
If I had any "not in the army" stories, I'd happily share them. But I don't.


So pull up a sandbag, and I'll set the lantern a-swinging, then you can hear all about my Op Fresco experiences, just to get us back onto the topic... tongue out
You could just say your story without mentioning the army. It didnt add anything to your last story anyway.

Dibble

12,938 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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yellowjack said:
If I had any "not in the army" stories, I'd happily share them. But I don't.


So pull up a sandbag, and I'll set the lantern a-swinging, then you can hear all about my Op Fresco experiences, just to get us back onto the topic... tongue out
I made some good cash on Op Fresco. The poor squaddies/RAF we worked with didn’t, and for some reason, always seemed to be from the opposite end of the country. They got mightily shat on, so to try and ease the pain a bit, we (the BiB, on double time for basically doing sweet FA) would usually get the pizzas/kebabs/Chinese whatever. At first it was a bit awkward but we just said to them “We know you’re getting shafted, we are getting paid extra, so the food is our shout”.

A few of the non local service people ended up in the local barracks on their “days off”, so we made sure they got some of the free tickets to local attractions we knew we could get. We managed to arrange “blue light taxis” a few times for them for trips back to barracks after nights out as well.

Having read tha5 back, it sounds a bit patronising, but we just took the view it was only right to do what we could because it felt to us they really had been shafted. I know they sign up for whatever, but 12 hour shifts, sleeping on the floor in the nick, for zero extra cash?

(Although one squaddie did get arrested for nicking stuff out of a locker room...)

Dibble

12,938 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Volvo1956 said:
Anyway letting Trumpton or any other service or organisation have freebies whatever the circumstances is likely to lead to problems.
Once word gets round every man and his dog will be milking it.
If you can't stump up £3.99 Then why should anyone else.
Too many tight fisted short arms long pockets people in society who hate parting with their dosh.
We had a couple of all night garages where staff would make us a brew, or let us have a free one from the machine. We’d go in most nights about 3 or 4 am, but only have one “machine” brew per set. Apart from one guy. Every night he went in, got his free machine brew, then knobbed off. We’d nirmally have ours in the garage (radio/jobs permitting) and have a but if a chat with whoever was at work there. We’d all normally buy a pie or some chocolate as well.

He was also the guy who’d go to KFC for the “staff discount” all the emergency services got while working. Just when he was off duty, but in his “half blues” (civvy coat over work shirt, work trousers and boots). Often with his two kids... KFC stopped doing the discount at that store...

Like you say, there’s always some wker to spoil it for everyone. You appreciate the gestures from places, but you don’t take the piss.

rufmeister

1,333 posts

122 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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yellowjack said:


When men were men, and firefighters really earned their pay.

Refreshments courtesy of the Salvation Army, WRVS, etc... wink
Wonder if they were all w8ndow cleaners, builders, plumbers, etc in their spare time?

Greendubber

13,213 posts

203 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Dibble said:
Volvo1956 said:
Anyway letting Trumpton or any other service or organisation have freebies whatever the circumstances is likely to lead to problems.
Once word gets round every man and his dog will be milking it.
If you can't stump up £3.99 Then why should anyone else.
Too many tight fisted short arms long pockets people in society who hate parting with their dosh.
We had a couple of all night garages where staff would make us a brew, or let us have a free one from the machine. We’d go in most nights about 3 or 4 am, but only have one “machine” brew per set. Apart from one guy. Every night he went in, got his free machine brew, then knobbed off. We’d nirmally have ours in the garage (radio/jobs permitting) and have a but if a chat with whoever was at work there. We’d all normally buy a pie or some chocolate as well.

He was also the guy who’d go to KFC for the “staff discount” all the emergency services got while working. Just when he was off duty, but in his “half blues” (civvy coat over work shirt, work trousers and boots). Often with his two kids... KFC stopped doing the discount at that store...

Like you say, there’s always some wker to spoil it for everyone. You appreciate the gestures from places, but you don’t take the piss.
We had a couple of those types too, universally hated as they seem to be the same sort that duck jobs, come into parade last and always be out the door at the end of the shift before anyone else. Strokers.

A BP M&S petrol station on our patch had a massive problem with shoplifters and drive offs over night. We used to fuel our cars there and they'd give us a brew, we'd sit in and have a chat with the staff if jobs permitted or if it was the weird bloke working we'd sit in the motor outside keeping tabs on things for a bit. Worked well as it stopped a lot of the issues for them.


Volvo1956

448 posts

70 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Greendubber said:
We had a couple of those types too, universally hated as they seem to be the same sort that duck jobs, come into parade last and always be out the door at the end of the shift before anyone else. Strokers.

A BP M&S petrol station on our patch had a massive problem with shoplifters and drive offs over night. We used to fuel our cars there and they'd give us a brew, we'd sit in and have a chat with the staff if jobs permitted or if it was the weird bloke working we'd sit in the motor outside keeping tabs on things for a bit. Worked well as it stopped a lot of the issues for them.
Yep agreed..... many a good brew stop spoiled by the parasites and locusts.
Had a great one with a night porter at a 4 star hotel.
Kept it to ourselves but word got out.
Before long greedy barstewards invited themselves into the hotel kitchen making fry ups bottles etc.
Spoiled a good number foe everyone.
Always the fat lard arsed lazy barstewards who were the worst offenders.

mcg_

1,445 posts

92 months

Wednesday 17th October 2018
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Me and about 5 friends tried to eat 100 nuggets each at mcdonalds once. We got free soft drinks throughout.

I ate 74.

Best was about 94, maybe a couple more.