Free teas / coffees for on a shout firefighters?
Discussion
SydneyBridge said:
I would imagine the average fire does not take so long to put out and why they were therefore working in shifts.
Perhaps they had water in the trucks and had drunk it already and had nipped up to McDonald's whilst on a quick break.
Sure the average fire figher doesn't consider food or drink whilst putting such a massive fire out, other priorities come first.
Yes, but they have a whole team of managers paid handsomely to think about such things. Welfare on site etc is important. Perhaps they had water in the trucks and had drunk it already and had nipped up to McDonald's whilst on a quick break.
Sure the average fire figher doesn't consider food or drink whilst putting such a massive fire out, other priorities come first.
When you have management teams stopping their guys and gals going in to help victims of the Manchester Bomb for 2 hours which they blame on the Police, then they dont seem able to get a round of teas organised, it does knock one's faith that they have a f
king clue what they are up to. Jasandjules said:
For the same reason they should do so for police officers and ambulance drivers. These are the people that can risk their lives to save yours and the lives of those you love.
If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
You're wrong.If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
Jasandjules said:
For the same reason they should do so for police officers and ambulance drivers. These are the people that can risk their lives to save yours and the lives of those you love.
If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
I’ll start this with my dad was a copper for 30 years, my grandfather too.If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
They get paid to do a job. It’s wonderful when people offer them refreshments for free but it should not be expected or enforced. Gratitude is great, entitlement is not.
I'm fairly local and I suspect this is bullst.
A more likely story is a woman walked into McDonalds and demanded drinks for the firefighters expecting it to be free. Chinese whispers and all and now it is all over Facebook with all the council types sticking their beak in.
Point to note, just off the top of my head I can think of at least twelve other outlets serving hot drinks between the site of the fire and that particular McDonalds.
t.A more likely story is a woman walked into McDonalds and demanded drinks for the firefighters expecting it to be free. Chinese whispers and all and now it is all over Facebook with all the council types sticking their beak in.
Point to note, just off the top of my head I can think of at least twelve other outlets serving hot drinks between the site of the fire and that particular McDonalds.
Jasandjules said:
For the same reason they should do so for police officers and ambulance drivers. These are the people that can risk their lives to save yours and the lives of those you love.
If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
Anyone "could" risk their lives to save you and yours, the difference is, the people you mention are paid to do it! If you don't think such people deserve special treatment, well, that is tragic.
London Borough Market and London Bridge attacks are proof of that.
It seems odd to me that after the poor cop was stabbed to death at Westminster, doing his job, a just giving page raised over a million quid ina few days for his family. They have lost a loved one and a provider, but they also have the weight of the Met behind them, the support that gives them, his pension, his death in service etc.
Similar sites raised a few tens of thousands for the poor buggers walking across the bridge who were killed, who were just out going about their day, tourists with no family support, maybe no pensions, life cover etc.
Always seems just a bit backward to me. They've all lost loved ones, but for some reason the public seem to place more weight on the life of a policeman who's paid and trained to take such risks, than the tourists that lose it all in an instant, who have no such support, training etc.
poo at Paul's said:
Troubleatmill said:
It boils down to this- if you simply cannot grasp why - then no amount of random strangers on an internet forum will ever change your mind.
And I'm sure we all have better things to do.
For me - The downstairs loo toilet seat needs to be tightened up - a much better use of my time.
It is a valid question IMO. And I'm sure we all have better things to do.
For me - The downstairs loo toilet seat needs to be tightened up - a much better use of my time.
These guys are at work, just like loads of us day in, day out, working long shifts. We have to pay our way in the course of doing our jobs.
Tins of beans are the same price in Tesco for Lawyers as they are for "hard working NHS staff". Where's the Tesco haters?
Now, a cashflow issue of no cash in uniforms is something people could help with, McDs included, but it is also something the Fire Service Management could deal with, too and they're not being blasted in the press!
If you cant grasp why the question is valid, and actually come up with a coherent answer, more fool you. FWIW, I think the McDs could have helped them out a bit int he circs, set up a tab etc, but I can understand easily why people would think, huh, they're just doing their job, why should they get free s
t when I have to pay for mine when i'm doing my job? Anyway, they getting f
king good discount down Brewers Decorator Centres! 
t happens.In this instance - no catering van to support a major incident.
Yes - this instance it could have been managed better - but - again - sometime s
t happens.Sometimes you do things in life - because it is quite simply given the situation it is the right thing and the human thing to do.
Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
McDonalds is fanatical about ‘yield’, everything is measured, counted, noted down, it’s actually scary how much they watch everything.
I spent 3 weeks working for McDonald’s and once got a dressing down by the franchisee (I was a manager) because I gave a child some extra caramel sauce in his McFlurry.
But also, probably bullst story.
I spent 3 weeks working for McDonald’s and once got a dressing down by the franchisee (I was a manager) because I gave a child some extra caramel sauce in his McFlurry.
But also, probably bulls
t story.Troubleatmill said:
poo at Paul's said:
Troubleatmill said:
It boils down to this- if you simply cannot grasp why - then no amount of random strangers on an internet forum will ever change your mind.
And I'm sure we all have better things to do.
For me - The downstairs loo toilet seat needs to be tightened up - a much better use of my time.
It is a valid question IMO. And I'm sure we all have better things to do.
For me - The downstairs loo toilet seat needs to be tightened up - a much better use of my time.
These guys are at work, just like loads of us day in, day out, working long shifts. We have to pay our way in the course of doing our jobs.
Tins of beans are the same price in Tesco for Lawyers as they are for "hard working NHS staff". Where's the Tesco haters?
Now, a cashflow issue of no cash in uniforms is something people could help with, McDs included, but it is also something the Fire Service Management could deal with, too and they're not being blasted in the press!
If you cant grasp why the question is valid, and actually come up with a coherent answer, more fool you. FWIW, I think the McDs could have helped them out a bit int he circs, set up a tab etc, but I can understand easily why people would think, huh, they're just doing their job, why should they get free s
t when I have to pay for mine when i'm doing my job? Anyway, they getting f
king good discount down Brewers Decorator Centres! t happens.In this instance - no catering van to support a major incident.
Yes - this instance it could have been managed better - but - again - sometime s
t happens.Sometimes you do things in life - because it is quite simply given the situation it is the right thing and the human thing to do.
Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
I'm sure if they were severely dehydrated and in a bad way drinks would have been plentiful but in this occasion it sounds like they expected a free brew and it didnt go to plan. I'm amazed it's made the press. I'm.even more amazed that they had no other choice and no one had any means to pay for a drink.
If McDonalds offer them free fair enough but don't expect it and moan when they don't.
Greendubber said:
Why, do they read PH and have a list of people they wont help due to not thinking they should be entitled to free drinks? What an odd thing to say.
I'm sure if they were severely dehydrated and in a bad way drinks would have been plentiful but in this occasion it sounds like they expected a free brew and it didnt go to plan. I'm amazed it's made the press.
My last sentence was hopefully designed to make the other poster think about - what if his loved ones were in a situation and some jobsworth made the fire-fighters job less easy.I'm sure if they were severely dehydrated and in a bad way drinks would have been plentiful but in this occasion it sounds like they expected a free brew and it didnt go to plan. I'm amazed it's made the press.
It wasn't a gypsy curse.
bhstewie said:
hstewie said: McDonald's get "blasted" for not giving stuff away, OK a few drinks cost them nothing and it's a st PR, but likely due to a lack of thinking by someone on the counter.
However, do the fire service really not make provision for this kind of thing?
Seems odd to send firefighters out where they're likely to get very hot (and therefore thirsty?) with zero provision for it when they may be miles from a McDonalds or anywhere similar.
Is that normal?
Before they left the station on blue lights, sarnies on board - check, tea on board, no give it five minutes though and we ate good to go. Every second counts on a shout and on board refreshments are not forefront of mind.t PR, but likely due to a lack of thinking by someone on the counter.However, do the fire service really not make provision for this kind of thing?
Seems odd to send firefighters out where they're likely to get very hot (and therefore thirsty?) with zero provision for it when they may be miles from a McDonalds or anywhere similar.
Is that normal?
Einion Yrth said:
Troubleatmill said:
Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
Why? Do you think they might refuse to help because p at p's doesn't think they have an automatic right to free stuff?A - fire services should get free stuff
B - why they’re just doing their job?
A - I hope your kids never get stuck in a fire
Troubleatmill said:
Greendubber said:
Why, do they read PH and have a list of people they wont help due to not thinking they should be entitled to free drinks? What an odd thing to say.
I'm sure if they were severely dehydrated and in a bad way drinks would have been plentiful but in this occasion it sounds like they expected a free brew and it didnt go to plan. I'm amazed it's made the press.
My last sentence was hopefully designed to make the other poster think about - what if his loved ones were in a situation and some jobsworth made the fire-fighters job less easy.I'm sure if they were severely dehydrated and in a bad way drinks would have been plentiful but in this occasion it sounds like they expected a free brew and it didnt go to plan. I'm amazed it's made the press.
It wasn't a gypsy curse.
ks.Troubleatmill said:
Fella - sometimes st happens.
Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
exactly, st happens.Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
t happens, and if the worst thing that happened to them that day was they did not get a cup of fking tea for free, they should count themselves fking lucky. As for the other bit, in 2000 I rescued three young lads from a house fire in our street, on my own at 2pm. I saw smoke from the back of the house from my home office, called 999, then broke in and got them out, I even went back in to rescue their pet gecko who was in a plastic house that had melted in the heat in the front room. I slashed my arm breaking open the fibreglass door that I ripped open to turn off the gas at the outside meter, cut my leg kicking through the glass of the back door, and got them out from smoke filled upstairs when their fridge freezer set the kitchen and house alight. They were "stoners" (nice lads but a bit dozy) worked but did nights were still in bed. They had not a clue what was going on. The speed that the place went up was pretty terrifying, and smoke in the upstairs, thick, acrid and made navigation near impossible. It was only that I knew the layout of my mates house across the road, and this was the same type of house that I could get to them, waked them, and get them out.
When the fire brigade turned up, i'd got them all out, and had even run a hose down the road from my house and was tackling the blaze. The lads in the house were very dazed, but thanked me, the FB treated me like some wannabe
, they were proper rude tbh. I went home, bandaged up my arm, cleaned up my leg, and made myself a cuppa. They even watched as I rolled up my own hose reel. So I reckon having saved three human lives that day and one Gecko, if anyone FB or not reciprocates, it's no less than I deserve.
El stovey said:
Einion Yrth said:
Troubleatmill said:
Anyway - here's hoping your kiddies never need them to save them in fire.
Why? Do you think they might refuse to help because p at p's doesn't think they have an automatic right to free stuff?A - fire services should get free stuff
B - why they’re just doing their job?
A - I hope your kids never get stuck in a fire
A/ s
t happens.. Why would you not do the human thing?B/ But they are getting a free hot drink - it's not fair.
A/ As I said s
t happens. Imagine if your kids are in trouble and I had it in my means to make their rescuers job easier for next to nothing and I decided it is not my problem.It comes down to what a poster said earlier - "What type of world would you like to live in?"
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