Jamie Oliver

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snuffy

9,761 posts

284 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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vikingaero said:
Not sure if it was Berni or Aberdeen/Angus Steakhouse, but a girlfriend asked for a side salad to accompany her meal and the waiter proudly return with a "garden salad" - a small plate of brussel sprouts, peas, beans and other assorted veg. Not a leafy bit in sight. biggrin
Aberdeen Angus Steakhouses - now they are utterly st.

AJL308

6,390 posts

156 months

Saturday 25th May 2019
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Roman Rhodes said:
3? You sure? Can I have the name of the place you do your drinking please?! smile
A large glass of wine is usually 250ml. That's three to a bottle.

I've pointed out to people who say they'd drive after 2 glasses of wine and asked whether they would do so after two thirds of a bottle.

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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He's not happy....

"Jamie Oliver says restaurants would still be open if they were 'posh', in latest reason for chain's collapse"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/11/jamie-...

"James Cleverly has clashed with Jamie Oliver after he blamed Brexit for the failure of his culinary empire.

The Tory party chairman and cabinet minister said the demise of Oliver's restaurant chain was nothing to do with Brexit but due to the poor quality and presentation of food Jamie's Italian dished up.

"I recently ate a Jamie's restaurant and the quality of food just didn't match the price," he tweeted."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/18/to...

"Jamie Oliver moans restaurant collapse 'ruined his 40th birthday' as 1,000 staff lost jobs"

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/showbiz-tv/j...




Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

169 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Wow, never thought I’d see the day whena politician would speak the truth eek

The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.

So

26,282 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
No, they weren't.

Exige77

6,518 posts

191 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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So said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
No, they weren't.
He’s behind you smile

Vaud

50,482 posts

155 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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So said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
No, they weren't.
I'd agree with you So.

My view - Carluccio quality, higher price... and smaller portions...

So

26,282 posts

222 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Vaud said:
So said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
No, they weren't.
I'd agree with you So.

My view - Carluccio quality, higher price... and smaller portions...
It was probably better than Carluccio in to be honest, but it was less consistent in terms of value.

On one occasion you'd get a dish that appeared to be a 1/4 scale model of what you ordered and on another you'd order lamb chops and get a herd of grilled sheep that would feed a Pakistani family.


kev1974

4,029 posts

129 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Far more likely that it was Uber Eats / Deliveroo combined with the same chains on every high street, that did him in, not Brexit.

Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

15,077 posts

169 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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So said:
Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
No, they weren't.
Must have been an off-night when we visited. We weren’t very impressed st the time.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

171 months

Sunday 18th August 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
Wow, never thought I’d see the day whena politician would speak the truth eek

The restaurants were Harvester quality food for very high prices.
That's rubbish, sorry. I worked with them professionally for a short period and there was real pride in the brand and passion for the cooking and ingredients at restaurant level
It was decent quality stuff and they expanded too quickly and fell victim to falling demand.

alfaman

6,416 posts

234 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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His overseas restaurants don’t seem that great ... reputation of ‘jamies’ in Singapore is an overpriced tourist restaurant serving mediocre to average food.


anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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alfaman said:
His overseas restaurants don’t seem that great ... reputation of ‘jamies’ in Singapore is an overpriced tourist restaurant serving mediocre to average food.
He doesn’t have to worry about them so much given they aren’t his.

So

26,282 posts

222 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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Brooking10 said:
alfaman said:
His overseas restaurants don’t seem that great ... reputation of ‘jamies’ in Singapore is an overpriced tourist restaurant serving mediocre to average food.
He doesn’t have to worry about them so much given they aren’t his.
I would be more worried about something with my name on it but not in my control.


alfaman

6,416 posts

234 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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So said:
Brooking10 said:
alfaman said:
His overseas restaurants don’t seem that great ... reputation of ‘jamies’ in Singapore is an overpriced tourist restaurant serving mediocre to average food.
He doesn’t have to worry about them so much given they aren’t his.
I would be more worried about something with my name on it but not in my control.
Exactly - they are called ‘Jamies’ or similar ... not a ringing brand endorsement

Mastodon2

13,826 posts

165 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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kev1974 said:
Far more likely that it was Uber Eats / Deliveroo combined with the same chains on every high street, that did him in, not Brexit.
Uber Eats and Deliveroo aren't to blame. If people considered the Jamie's restaurant food to be desirable and of decent quality and value then people would have paid for it, either in the restaurants or for delivery via the aforementioned services. Apparently, despite having ever more options to consume his food, people just weren't interested.

Alex

9,975 posts

284 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I think what did it for Jamie's Italian was an over-ambitious menu and expanding too quickly.

CABC

5,576 posts

101 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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he's always owned gatwick which for many years has had good staff but iffy food. Heston and Ramsey much better, though a £ or two more. as i fly a lot i avoid the outlets away from the airport!

anonymous-user

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54 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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alfaman said:
So said:
Brooking10 said:
alfaman said:
His overseas restaurants don’t seem that great ... reputation of ‘jamies’ in Singapore is an overpriced tourist restaurant serving mediocre to average food.
He doesn’t have to worry about them so much given they aren’t his.
I would be more worried about something with my name on it but not in my control.
Exactly - they are called ‘Jamies’ or similar ... not a ringing brand endorsement
It’s irrelevant, irrespective of what we might think of the quality or otherwise they make good money on a licensing basis and have zero impact on his core business.

skwdenyer

16,492 posts

240 months

Monday 19th August 2019
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I listened to part 1 of the interview with Oliver on Radio 4’s Food Programme.

TBH he came over well. Suggestion is he put in £25m if his own cash. Seems to have done some positive stuff around the food sourcing for the restaurants. But equally there were people other than him who ran them - I suspect that part he regrets.

In the end he attributes it mainly to “cathedrals rather than churches” (real estate), changing behaviours, maybe a little bit of Brexit (sentiment), and not getting it right.

I didn’t think he came across badly at all.