Vegan extremists
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Evanivitch said:
"What humans typically eat" is a symptom of culture.
It is. And it has evolved over time, because cultures which did not evolve a diet which worked would have died out. If you, in the absence of a culture which provides you with a diet which worked for your forefathers, and works for the rest of your society, try to work out from scratch what you need to eat, it will take more effort and carry more risk of getting it wrong. I've always said that if I were to go vegetarian I would adopt the diet of a culture with a long history of vegetarianism. I certainly wouldn't try to live on a Northern European diet minus meat plus extra carbs and cheese. Nor the same thing with meat replaced with fake plant based factory "meat". Stuff your quorn and nut cutlets, I'll have Indian vegetarian food. It's a pity there aren't really any successful and longstanding vegan cultures to adopt in the same way.
skyrover said:
Your confusing living with surviving.
what's the difference?Mort7 said:
Naga Munchetty made that joke on the morning show 
Evanivitch said:
"What humans typically eat" is a symptom of culture.
Is it?There are plenty of things I don't eat, and it has nothing to do with culture.
I eat things that are healthy, nutritious and tasty.
I don't eat mushrooms. It's not a cultural thing. I don't like them.
I don't eat pufferfish or rhubarb, again, not for cultural reasons, more because they can be poisonous.
Some things are steeped in culture, no doubt, but that culture has appeared, based on 2 things. What we had available. And from that, what is actually good to eat.
Tired said:
Some things are steeped in culture, no doubt, but that culture has appeared, based on 2 things. What we had available. And from that, what is actually good to eat.
Nope. Governments have been influencing what was in our plates for 100s, if not 1000s of years. Be it limiting what kind of animal you can hunt, to taxation of certain crops. Saying something is 'available' is an incredibly broad term that can mean anything to being in fashion to surviving a short term climatic event (like the mini ice age) or crop disease (potatoes being a good example of boom and bust in both).
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Kenny Powers said:
Arguing with vegans about nutrition science was recently voted the first biggest waste of time ever, and has also been associated with increased all-cause mortality in multiple epidemiology studies.
Could you link those studies please as there are many epidemiology studies that have conclusions that contradict what you're saying.Forensic Unknown said:
Kenny Powers said:
Arguing with vegans about nutrition science was recently voted the first biggest waste of time ever, and has also been associated with increased all-cause mortality in multiple epidemiology studies.
Could you link those studies please as there are many epidemiology studies that have conclusions that contradict what you're saying.Forensic Unknown said:
Kenny Powers said:
Arguing with vegans about nutrition science was recently voted the first biggest waste of time ever, and has also been associated with increased all-cause mortality in multiple epidemiology studies.
Could you link those studies please as there are many epidemiology studies that have conclusions that contradict what you're saying.I don’t have any because I made it up
Kenny Powers said:
Forensic Unknown said:
Kenny Powers said:
Arguing with vegans about nutrition science was recently voted the first biggest waste of time ever, and has also been associated with increased all-cause mortality in multiple epidemiology studies.
Could you link those studies please as there are many epidemiology studies that have conclusions that contradict what you're saying.I don’t have any because I made it up
NoVetec said:
Apologies if this has been done before, but what does a typical day meal/snack wise look like for the vegans/flexis here?
And how active or strenuous are your typical days?
Asking out of genuine interest, I won't throw esteaks.
It was briefly talked about before but I'll usually have cereal or toast and peanut butter in the morning, sometimes oats with fruit and some flaxseed.And how active or strenuous are your typical days?
Asking out of genuine interest, I won't throw esteaks.
Snacks are typically fruit or things like cucumber and hummus, breakfast bars, nuts, yoghurts etc
Lunch and dinners are things like chilli, pasta, soups, stir fry, curries, mexican and what not. Instead of meat I just incorporate more legumes in my diet. To be fair it's mainly what I ate before just 'vegan' versions of said food.
I'm an electrician so some days can be pretty physical and others quite relaxed.
Evanivitch said:
Tired said:
Some things are steeped in culture, no doubt, but that culture has appeared, based on 2 things. What we had available. And from that, what is actually good to eat.
Nope. Governments have been influencing what was in our plates for 100s, if not 1000s of years. Be it limiting what kind of animal you can hunt, to taxation of certain crops. Saying something is 'available' is an incredibly broad term that can mean anything to being in fashion to surviving a short term climatic event (like the mini ice age) or crop disease (potatoes being a good example of boom and bust in both).Largely because a companies main motivation is profit rather than health and nutrition they want to sell food with a long shelf life and is widely consumed or over-consumed. Basically junk food as it has the highest profit margins.
End result is making s
t food much cheaper and more easily available than healthy food. So the original post is absolutely correct - the poplar diet is absolutely based on what is available and what tastes good. The massive issue is that it's poor in terms of nutrients, massively calorific and potentially addictive. Doesn't mean that it's a good thing. Also another indicator that governments are loosing the battle to protect citizens against corporations.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff