Vegan extremists

[grumbledoak]

Oakey said:

It still uses foetal serum doesn't it?

Killing a pregnant cow and not eating it.

[anonymous-user]

Evanivitch said:

There's a difference between being 'no-harm' to animals and being entirely non-animal derived.

the point which is a lot of vegans eat that way due the way animals are treated. a lab grown meat could be cultivated from one cow, maybe without killing it.

[anonymous-user]

Oakey said:

It still uses foetal serum doesn't it?

no.

[DoubleD]

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

[anonymous-user]

DoubleD said:

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

[DoubleD]

hucumber said:

DoubleD said:

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

Yep.

[LDN]

hucumber said:

DoubleD said:

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

[LDN]

Free Beyonce tickets... for life! Think I’ll pass. But never the less:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-47085214

[DoubleD]

LDN said:

hucumber said:

DoubleD said:

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

Its true. Was a bloody good mixed grill though.

[LDN]

DoubleD said:

LDN said:

hucumber said:

DoubleD said:

I prefer to keep things more natural. Had a wonderful mixed grill earlier.

Good for you, well done. You must feel very clever writing that here where literally only you care

Don’t worry; if you’re new to the thread; you’ll soon realise, he’s not altogether ‘there’.

Its true. Was a bloody good mixed grill though.

Nice one

[Willy Nilly]

hucumber said:

Thesprucegoose said:

i was reading about meat being grown in labs and close to mass production, no harm to animals, would vegans still not eat it?

Morally I wouldn't have any issue with it at all, but i have gone this long without meat, and meat substitutes are getting better every day so it doesn't really appeal to me, u think it would be more appealing to people wanting to make the change to veganism rather than people who already are

If you don't like meat, don't eat it, see how much I care. But if you claim humans don't need meat, why eat meat substitutes and why make vegan sausages and why develop an artificial meat? The artificial meat is absolutely ridiculous, the last thing we need is more processed food in our diet.

There are so many mixed messages coming from the vegan lobby, for want of a better word. It's animal welfare, until it is pointed out that while things do go wrong, animal welfare is pretty good in Western Europe and the UK.

Then it's about the environment and converting good that people could eat into animal food to be converted back into human food, which is a fair point but no mention of what to go with the land we can't crop, but can grow grass for animal food never mind the millions of tonnes of bi products of the human food that instead of going to waste, get converted into food.

Then it's about humans not really needing to eat meat, even though we have been eating it for thousands of years, or is it we can manage (not thrive, manage) without it, not mention of where all of these substitutes are going to be grown or the processes involved in converting oats, soy, almond or whatever into something that looks like milk if you don't study it too closely and doesn't have the nutritional value.

I have had MURDERER shouted at me for poisoning mice on the horse yard, after they complain about mouse holes in rugs and the yard cat got shouted at for eating mice. He was a fking cat, he eats mice. But it's fine to keep a horse in a wooden box.

It's fine with me if you keep leaning on the livestock sector for better welfare as long as they then don't have to compete on price with lower welfare imports.

It's fine with me if you choose not to eat meat

It's fine with me if you point out to people that they really don't need to eat so much meat and to eat more veg.

It's fine with me if you just eat more expensive higher welfare meat.

What's not fine is a group of you wearing masks protesting in town last week showing a picture of one poorly chicken that was probably in a shed with 50,000 healthy birds in it.

It's not fine to intimidate a farm or business that produces animals

It's not fine to intimidate the businesses that supply those businesses when you can no longer protest outside their premisses because of court orders.

It's not fine to pass off old footage of animal abuse that wasn't even in this country as current practise in the UK.

It's easy to forget that in 2019 in the UK we have more cheap, high quality food than we could ever imagine and you are still not satisfied.

[grumbledoak]

Can I add

It's not fine to inflict this on others. Humans need meat to thrive. Babies require animal products to survive. That reality is not altered by how Holy your diet makes you feel.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18574603/ns/us_news-crim...

[Mort7]

Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?

[Biker 1]

There's a tt in my area who drives around a van with 'meat causes cancer, go vegan now' written down the side in large letters. I wonder what his 'research' methodology was.

[Biker 1]

Mort7 said:

Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?

Probably wear textile gear. But then, if they're vegan, they're usually 'green', so wouldn't be petrolheads/bikers anyway. Sorry, but I see most of them as quite pathetic killjoys. They should rename the green party 'the killjoy party'....

[LDN]

Mort7 said:

Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?

Of course not. Not if they’re properly vegan. Same way my boxing gloves are not leather.

[LDN]

grumbledoak said:

Can I add

It's not fine to inflict this on others. Humans need meat to thrive. Babies require animal products to survive. That reality is not altered by how Holy your diet makes you feel.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18574603/ns/us_news-crim...

We’ve been over this umpteen times. The NHS and dietic associations all state that babies / children can be brought up on a vegan diet. Fact.

Many children die of malnourishment, on meat diets / brought up by parents who eat meat.

And to finish off; the very article you linked to states:

“No matter how many times they want to say, ‘We’re vegans, we’re vegetarians,’ that’s not the issue in this case,” said prosecutor Chuck Boring. “The child died because he was not fed. Period.”

You really are a special type of thick. Or..... maybe, you’re being disingenuous. Either way; it doesn’t take a lot to shoot this type of nonsense down.

[LDN]

Willy Nilly said:

Blah

The level of wilful ignorance here is quite something. There’s a few points with some merit but... overall, everything you state has been addressed earlier in the thread; at great length.

[Mort7]

LDN said:

Mort7 said:

Genuine question. Not intended to be provocative at all. Really. Just interested to know.

Do vegan bikers wear leathers?

Of course not. Not if they’re properly vegan. Same way my boxing gloves are not leather.

As I said, a genuine question. I'm an ex-biker. It's been a few decades since I've been in the saddle, and I wondered if there was anything fully synthetic on the market which is a genuine substitute for leathers.

[DoubleD]

LDN said:

grumbledoak said:

Can I add

It's not fine to inflict this on others. Humans need meat to thrive. Babies require animal products to survive. That reality is not altered by how Holy your diet makes you feel.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/18574603/ns/us_news-crim...

We’ve been over this umpteen times. The NHS and dietic associations all state that babies / children can be brought up on a vegan diet. Fact.

Many children die of malnourishment, on meat diets / brought up by parents who eat meat.

And to finish off; the very article you linked to states:

“No matter how many times they want to say, ‘We’re vegans, we’re vegetarians,’ that’s not the issue in this case,” said prosecutor Chuck Boring. “The child died because he was not fed. Period.”

You really are a special type of thick. Or..... maybe, you’re being disingenuous. Either way; it doesn’t take a lot to shoot this type of nonsense down.

Can we stick to facts rather than more name calling.