45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

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Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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_dobbo_ said:
Judge Sullivan:

“arguably, you sold your country out”

“You were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the National Security Adviser to the president of the United States,”

“Arguably this undermines everything this flag over here stands for.”

“The court’s going to consider all that. I cannot assure you that if you proceed today you will not receive a sentence of incarceration.”

After 15 minutes of this from the Judge, Flynn has requested a recess. hehe
The judge asked if he wanted to consider his guilty plea - he said no.

This morning’s Fox & Friends fantasy scenario is not coming to pass.

Judge Sullivan even asked the government whether Flynn could have been charged with treason for interfering in Russian sanctions imposed by Obama administration. Government didn’t want to go there.

One suspects the Judge is absolutely making sure to quash the arguments in right wing media that Flynn didn't know what he was doing.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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As posted earlier:-

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Good luck today in court to General Michael Flynn. Will be interesting to see what he has to say, despite tremendous pressure being put on him, about Russian Collusion in our great and, obviously, highly successful political campaign. There was no Collusion!
3:41 AM - 18 Dec 2018

I'd pay more attention to what the judge is saying right now Donald.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Sarah Sanders on Fox news saying trump will get the money from the wall other ways. There are a "number of different funding sources we could use" AND "money through congressional appropriations" to get to the $5 billion the President wants for wall.

Different funding sources - wait I thought the mexicans were paying -is he asking Putin for more money now instead?

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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During sentencing, judge asks Flynn's attorney Stephen Anthony if former national security adviser was "entrapped by the FBI." Anthony says, "No, your Honor."

Michael Flynn just deflated Trump’s contention that he was duped into lying to FBI. "I was aware" that lying to FBI investigators was a crime when he did so over interactions with Russians.

Flynn tells judge "I do not" seek to withdraw the plea.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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JonChalk said:
His family foundation has "voluntarily" closed down.

Case against Trump family's misuse of it's funds continues:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4661117...

Mrs Underwood (New York AG) said in a statement that there had been "a shocking pattern of illegality involving the Trump Foundation - including unlawful co-ordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and wilful self-dealing, and much more".

She continued: "This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a chequebook to serve Mr Trump's business and political interests."

Now his source of funds is gone, he needs the 2020 campaign funding up and running, hence the campaign kicking off as per earlier posts.
Does this mean the money the charity "holds" will now actually go to charity?

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Gameface said:
As posted earlier:-

Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Good luck today in court to General Michael Flynn. Will be interesting to see what he has to say, despite tremendous pressure being put on him, about Russian Collusion in our great and, obviously, highly successful political campaign. There was no Collusion!
3:41 AM - 18 Dec 2018

I'd pay more attention to what the judge is saying right now Donald.
"All along, you were an unregistered agent of a foreign country while serving as the National Security Adviser ..."


The judge asked prosecutors whether Michael Flynn could have also been charged in the indictment against his two former business partners at a Virginia courthouse yesterday. The government’s response: “Yes.”

The government also confirmed Flynn’s “exposure” in the case would have been “significant.”


A former intel chief accepts $600k to help a foreign power secretly lobby the US and he doesn’t take a charge for it? What does he know, given up, that was so valuable to Mueller.
We need to be aware to look for hints here

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Gameface said:
Does this mean the money the charity "holds" will now actually go to charity?
'Under the terms of the deal to shut down the foundation, Ms Underwood said, it could only be dissolved under judicial supervision and could only distribute its assets "to reputable organisations approved by my office".'

Basically, the NYAG now managing the remaining funds.

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Good.

So the judge will distribute the money to charities.

That must rile Trump badly. He will see it as his money.

The asshole.

Blackpuddin

16,558 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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"No distribution!!"

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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hehe

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Needs caps...

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Gameface said:
Good.

So the judge will distribute the money to charities.

That must rile Trump badly. He will see it as his money.

The asshole.
With a bit of luck it will all go to charities helping immigrants, trans rights, people with no healthcare etc evil

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Gameface said:
As posted earlier:-

Donald J. Trump
?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

Good luck today in court to General Michael Flynn. Will be interesting to see what he has to say, despite tremendous pressure being put on him, about Russian Collusion in our great and, obviously, highly successful political campaign. There was no Collusion!
3:41 AM - 18 Dec 2018

I'd pay more attention to what the judge is saying right now Donald.
I also find the concept of requiring "luck" when appearing before a Judge to be somewhat amusing. What you really need is

1) to tell the truth

and

2) For the truth to demonstrate you are innocent of the charges brought against you



Luck, doesn't come into it......... ;-)

Seventy

5,500 posts

139 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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White House press conference due to start in 5 mins.

Watch Live: White House holds press briefing - https://itk.thehill.com/video/administration/42185...

minimoog

6,897 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Flynn's lawyers sought and got a deferment til March for his sentencing. Given the judge's strident remarks, could it be that Flynn may have decided he has more to give up to Mueller to try and earn clemency?

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Flynns lawyer took the judge up on his offer.
BREAKING: Michael Flynn's sentencing will be postponed to give him time to finish fully cooperating with federal prosecutors

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Good news in the long run although I was looking forward to Trumps tweets on Flynn's sentence later today.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

111 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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minimoog said:
Flynn's lawyers sought and got a deferment til March for his sentencing. Given the judge's strident remarks, could it be that Flynn may have decided he has more to give up to Mueller to try and earn clemency?
Think they're going to try and get more clemency for his further co-operation in the trial of his two other colleagues on more serious charges.

EvoDelta

8,221 posts

191 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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Seventy said:
White House press conference due to start in 5 mins.

Watch Live: White House holds press briefing - https://itk.thehill.com/video/administration/42185...
Either the link is dead, or Sanders chickened out.


Jasper3.0

652 posts

201 months

Tuesday 18th December 2018
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EvoDelta said:
Either the link is dead, or Sanders chickened out.
Just thinking the same thing.
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