45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)
Discussion
Eric Mc said:
Only beginning to realise that?
A fundamental thread that runs through the history of the US from its foundation was a resentment of control from a "distant" authority. The initial problem was King George but subsequently that resentment transferred to Washington DC.
There is an anarchic streak in American politics and in the way people vote that would lead some people to prefer if Washington DC just disappeared down some big sink hole..
That's something that irks me constantly - people want the benefits of "BIG GOVERNMENT" as long as "BIG GOVT" only regulates others and lets them do whatever the hell they want.A fundamental thread that runs through the history of the US from its foundation was a resentment of control from a "distant" authority. The initial problem was King George but subsequently that resentment transferred to Washington DC.
There is an anarchic streak in American politics and in the way people vote that would lead some people to prefer if Washington DC just disappeared down some big sink hole..
I would bet good money that it's those that "resent distant authority" that also want "distant authority" to build a Wall and keep out those pesky foreigners. They don't see anything ironic or contradictory in wanting the freedoms to do what THEY please but stopping others from having the freedom to do what THEY please.
Eric Mc said:
SOME Americans (the fabled 40% you mention, perhaps).
In the UK, when something goes wrong, we tend to say, "What's the government going to do about it?"
In the US, a sizeable chunk of the population will say, "Keep the government out of it".
They seem to be surprisingly quite when things such as Hurricane Katrina or Forest Fires occur. And they seem quite keen on the Govt helping them with claiming compensation when stuff like Deepater Horizon happens. In the UK, when something goes wrong, we tend to say, "What's the government going to do about it?"
In the US, a sizeable chunk of the population will say, "Keep the government out of it".
This could run after the Washington Post article
U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years.
The number of back channels that we know about team trump tried to setup, with some almost certainly setup.
It does make you wonder about Trump is pulling troops from Syria, why Mnuchin lifted sanctions on Russian oligarchs etc
U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years.
The number of back channels that we know about team trump tried to setup, with some almost certainly setup.
It does make you wonder about Trump is pulling troops from Syria, why Mnuchin lifted sanctions on Russian oligarchs etc
Axios are reporting that trump had a go at Mulvanney in front of everyone as he tried to negotiate a budget deal. Blame others for his mess?
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
Byker28i said:
Axios are reporting that trump had a go at Mulvanney in front of everyone as he tried to negotiate a budget deal. Blame others for his mess?
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
Link not working, Byker????https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
JonChalk said:
Byker28i said:
Axios are reporting that trump had a go at Mulvanney in front of everyone as he tried to negotiate a budget deal. Blame others for his mess?
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
Link not working, Byker????https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/13/politics/trump-...
No sympathy for Mulvaney. You lie with dogs, you catch fleas.
JonChalk said:
Byker28i said:
Axios are reporting that trump had a go at Mulvanney in front of everyone as he tried to negotiate a budget deal. Blame others for his mess?
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
Link not working, Byker????https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
https://www.axios.com/donald-trump-mick-mulvaney-g...
trumps 'easy to win' trade war with China has pushed farmers to the brink, now the shutdown is hurting them even more.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/farmers-trum...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/us/farmers-trum...
I wonder why trump doesn't like the Washington Post, as they deliver a piece about how trump hasn't a plan to end the shutdown.
The problem was that Trump offered no path to victory — other than brinkmanship.
When President Trump made a rare journey to the Capitol last week, he was expected to strategize about how to end the government shutdown he instigated. Instead, he spent the first 20-odd minutes delivering a monologue about “winning.”
The president who pitched himself to voters as a world-class dealmaker has proven to be an unreliable negotiator. Grappling for the first time with a divided government, Trump has contradicted himself, sent miscues and spread falsehoods. He has zigzagged between proudly claiming ownership of the shutdown and blaming it on Democrats, and between nearly declaring a national emergency to construct the wall without congressional approval and backing off such a legally and politically perilous action.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-the-whi...
The problem was that Trump offered no path to victory — other than brinkmanship.
When President Trump made a rare journey to the Capitol last week, he was expected to strategize about how to end the government shutdown he instigated. Instead, he spent the first 20-odd minutes delivering a monologue about “winning.”
The president who pitched himself to voters as a world-class dealmaker has proven to be an unreliable negotiator. Grappling for the first time with a divided government, Trump has contradicted himself, sent miscues and spread falsehoods. He has zigzagged between proudly claiming ownership of the shutdown and blaming it on Democrats, and between nearly declaring a national emergency to construct the wall without congressional approval and backing off such a legally and politically perilous action.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-the-whi...
Byker28i said:
paulguitar said:
The 'president' of the United States, everyone:
I mean it's no wonder Bezo has had an affair with another woman, because when you log onto Amazon, it says - if you liked that you may like this, and suggests an alternative 
He's properly lost it overnight, rambling on twitter
Has he been watching Independence day?
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
....Border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist...And Americans will not go gentle into that good night. Patrick Buchanan. The great people of our Country demand proper Border Security NOW!
So now he wants a militarised border? Like North Koreas?
Has he been watching Independence day?
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
....Border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist...And Americans will not go gentle into that good night. Patrick Buchanan. The great people of our Country demand proper Border Security NOW!
So now he wants a militarised border? Like North Koreas?
Byker28i said:
This could run after the Washington Post article
U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years.
The number of back channels that we know about team trump tried to setup, with some almost certainly setup.
It does make you wonder about Trump is pulling troops from Syria, why Mnuchin lifted sanctions on Russian oligarchs etc
There's reports now that the Intel & foreign affairs committee lawyers are meeting tomorrow to evaluate subpoenaing Trump's interpreters at meetings with Putin when no aides present. Many Dems who were opposed because it's an unprecedented step that could impact future diplomacy are now warming to the idea after the report in the Washington Post.U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump’s face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years.
The number of back channels that we know about team trump tried to setup, with some almost certainly setup.
It does make you wonder about Trump is pulling troops from Syria, why Mnuchin lifted sanctions on Russian oligarchs etc
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-lawyers-meet...
t. Mentally, he's a child, and an embarrassment.Aides admit West Wing mishandled the shutdown’s early days, when Trump remained out of sight, and are now trying to use the office’s trappings
Trump has expressed bafflement that he is not getting more credit for largely staying put during the shutdown.
https://apnews.com/f246dec6e3f7402cb0fc6d6c420e442...
Trump has expressed bafflement that he is not getting more credit for largely staying put during the shutdown.
https://apnews.com/f246dec6e3f7402cb0fc6d6c420e442...
Byker28i said:
He's properly lost it overnight, rambling on twitter
Has he been watching Independence day?
Donald J. Trump
?Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
....Border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist...And Americans will not go gentle into that good night. Patrick Buchanan. The great people of our Country demand proper Border Security NOW!
So now he wants a militarised border? Like North Koreas?
I see a lot of similarities between what he posts and the stuff that Alex Jones/Breitbart/Infowars spouts. So all he's doing is echoing and reinforcing the views of the right-wing nutjobs in the US who form his core support.Has he been watching Independence day?
Donald J. Trump
?Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
....Border is eventually going to be militarized and defended or the United States, as we have known it, is going to cease to exist...And Americans will not go gentle into that good night. Patrick Buchanan. The great people of our Country demand proper Border Security NOW!
So now he wants a militarised border? Like North Koreas?
Gameface said:
Truly embarrassing.
Arse-clenchingly embarrassing.... but only to those with a modicum of dignity, self-respect, and self-awareness. Things which Trump and his core supporters lack. That's why there have been umpteen examples of embarrassing behaviour over the past two years and why there will be umpteen more over the next two.Sadly, nobody cares any more about "embarrassing", or corrupt, or even "traitorous".
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