45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

[Tallow]

Seventy said:

Unfortunately the closure of the TR thread has attracted his supporters to this one, I find it best to ignore them. After a few hours they’ll get bored - especially if you don’t bite - and move on.

It does seem a bit suspicious that as soon as there's a race related incident in the news related to the current US administration, a lot of old faces mysteriously turn up to make their feelings known (you know, for balance and that, entirely unbiased, etc etc)...

Anyway, on an unrelated note and in a clumsy attempt to change the subject back to Trump related stuff, I can't help but wonder if Giuliani has some kind of strategy with all these "accidental" revelations lately. If he was that incompetent, surely Trump would ditch him? Seems to me like maybe he's trying to normalise elements of the Russia situation in ordwer to try and get the public to be less hostile to whatever comes out in the end.

[paulguitar]

amgmcqueen said:

Whether you agree with The Donald's methods or not, I think we can all agree he is an extraordinary man.

You could put it that way, yes. Certainly, he is the most dishonest public figure in recorded history, and the only president in my lifetime to have been involved in a case of treason.

Let’s just hope that this is a low point for the United States and that it will soon be over. It’s time for the USA to start to rebuild some of the damage and try to earn back some respect around the world.

[Tony33]

amgmcqueen said:

Whether you agree with The Donald's methods or not, I think we can all agree he is an extraordinary man.

I don't agree, there are plenty of sleazeball, narcissistic businessmen with zero morals who are bosses of their little world who behave in a similar way, the only difference is scale, thanks to starting out with millions thanks to Dad and the opportunities that brings.

As for methods that would imply that he is making things happen that others couldn't, yet there is little you would look back at his term that has significantly changed America other than for the need to make the checks and balances more effective at repeating the likes of Trump & Mitch holding the country to ransom over policies that can't get through Congress through the due process.

[anonymous-user]

Tallow said:

It does seem a bit suspicious that as soon as there's a race related incident in the news related to the current US administration, a lot of old faces mysteriously turn up to make their feelings known (you know, for balance and that, entirely unbiased, etc etc)...

Anyway, on an unrelated note and in a clumsy attempt to change the subject back to Trump related stuff, I can't help but wonder if Giuliani has some kind of strategy with all these "accidental" revelations lately. If he was that incompetent, surely Trump would ditch him? Seems to me like maybe he's trying to normalise elements of the Russia situation in ordwer to try and get the public to be less hostile to whatever comes out in the end.

Intentional or not I think it's working.

Some of the stuff that is already confirmed is pretty extraordinary. What Cohen and Manafort have coughed to would be enough to finish someone in normal circumstances.

[anonymous-user]

Countdown said:

Catholic school AIUI so understandable in that context. The white male americans have very strong (and very polarised) views on abortion.

EFA - The people who actually have the wombs are generally more clear cut........

[anonymous-user]

Another flattering book about the well-oiled machine that is the Trump White House awaits

https://us.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/cliff-sims-...

I especially like the "enemies list" comprised of people in his own administration...

[NormarkSuperswede]

At the end of the day , he was smashing Melania to bits. maybe not recently (By all accounts , she wont go near him ) so what a life ! He has her and a lot more to remember . Proper Thug life

[Countdown]

NormarkSuperswede said:

At the end of the day , he was smashing Melania to bits. maybe not recently (By all accounts , she wont go near him ) so what a life ! He has her and a lot more to remember . Proper Thug life

In an interview she was asked if she would have married Donald if it wasn’t for his money. Her response was “do you think he would have married me if I wasn’t pretty”?

They are both ideally suited to each other. I wouldn’t be surprised if Barron was always intended to be her pension fund.

[Halb]

Chimune said:

Having now watched the longer video, I concur with NTM.
Out of the two groups, the religious nutters were well out of line. I wouldn't put up with the st they were spouting.
The school kids were being irritating little wkers, but really the Bible bashers were looking to up the anti.
The NA decided his drum would disperse a load of teenagers egging eachother on. They all giggled and one refused to move out the way.

Joe Rogan and Bari Weiss chat about it here.
Joe Rogan on the "MAGA" Kids Controversy
JRE Clips Published on 21 Jan 2019
20mins
https://youtu.be/MjV7EDuL21M

[Byker28i]

Trumps going to ignore Pelosi and make his speech in the house anyway?
WH official says that President Trump is preparing to give the State of the Union as scheduled in the House.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/trump-...

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/0...

[Byker28i]

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1087733862283776003

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 22 January 20:56

[hidetheelephants]

Byker28i said:

Under the so-called "compromise" bill, only 50k Central American Minors allowed to apply for asylum each year, and only 15k asylum applications can be granted. AND it wouldn't be done by immigration judges, it would be a totally nonreviewable DHS decision. And no judicial review!

Is that (or any of the bill for that matter) not unconstitutional? Not that it would be the first bit of legislation to come out of the White House and be instantly wrapped in red tape by State Supreme Court judgements.

[Byker28i]

hidetheelephants said:

Byker28i said:

Under the so-called "compromise" bill, only 50k Central American Minors allowed to apply for asylum each year, and only 15k asylum applications can be granted. AND it wouldn't be done by immigration judges, it would be a totally nonreviewable DHS decision. And no judicial review!

Is that (or any of the bill for that matter) not unconstitutional? Not that it would be the first bit of legislation to come out of the White House and be instantly wrapped in red tape by State Supreme Court judgements.

You'd think so, but this was the huge long document that Kushner/Pence/Miller got trump to push. We know he doesn't read anything, but it sounds like they were saying one thing, 3 year amnesty for daca, when really it was much more draconian

[Eric Mc]

amgmcqueen said:

Whether you agree with The Donald's methods or not, I think we can all agree he is an extraordinary man.

Extraordinary maybe. Weird (possibly mad) - definitely.

[Nealio]

Byker28i said:

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1087733862283776003

Edited by Byker28i on Tuesday 22 January 20:56

Christ, slow down!

Is there anything cropped off the end of that clip at all? After the kid who makes that comment (yeah, the one dressed in Cincinnatti Bengals gear), you can just hear another kid saying "He does not go to..." What's the rest of his sentence? Why's it cropped off? There are longer versions around

Let me help you out.

https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/10877727647...

[Nealio]

Byker28i said:

Trumps going to ignore Pelosi and make his speech in the house anyway?
WH official says that President Trump is preparing to give the State of the Union as scheduled in the House.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/22/politics/trump-...

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/0...

She set the date in the first place, thinking the shutdown would be ended by then and Trump would have to give his address as a defeated and humiliated president. Things didn't go as Nancy planned though.

Edited by Nealio on Tuesday 22 January 21:28

[Kinky]

desolate said:

Tallow said:

Anyway, on an unrelated note and in a clumsy attempt to change the subject back to Trump related stuff, I can't help but wonder if Giuliani has some kind of strategy with all these "accidental" revelations lately. If he was that incompetent, surely Trump would ditch him? Seems to me like maybe he's trying to normalise elements of the Russia situation in ordwer to try and get the public to be less hostile to whatever comes out in the end.

Intentional or not I think it's working.

Some of the stuff that is already confirmed is pretty extraordinary. What Cohen and Manafort have coughed to would be enough to finish someone in normal circumstances.

This was discussed by Cooper last night. Quite an interesting watch if anyone has the time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOUvMH4aVlg

[Tartan Pixie]

Tallow said:

Anyway, on an unrelated note and in a clumsy attempt to change the subject back to Trump related stuff, I can't help but wonder if Giuliani has some kind of strategy with all these "accidental" revelations lately. If he was that incompetent, surely Trump would ditch him? Seems to me like maybe he's trying to normalise elements of the Russia situation in ordwer to try and get the public to be less hostile to whatever comes out in the end.

Normalising the Russia situation IMO, I'm not sure there's any other route out.

Russia is generally white, christian and homophobic so that chimes with the people who I think of as 'banana republicans' due to their acceptance of oligarchy, the sort of people who wanted to keep the Jim Crow laws. I'd argue that the cultural exchange between the American right and the Russian right has been growing ever since 4chan came on the scene, the exchange was helped immensely by the launch of Russia Today in 2005 and later on the Sputnik news agency and troll factories that are psyops aimed at the English speaking world.

Russia trying to pick up useful idiots in the west is nothing new but what is new is that today's useful idiots are all on the right wing and this appears to have taken the Republican party off guard. I doubt it's actually that big a percentage of the population but they do tend to be noisy buggers so if Mueller finishes his report and there's a clear case for criminal wrongdoing then the only realistic exit for Trump is to convince the useful idiots to make so much noise that it convinces the republican party not to impeach. Anything else and it's jail time.

[Byker28i]

Trump investigation moves onto the NRA funding
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/01/22/politics/muelle...

[Byker28i]

a new poll shows that more people seem to support impeaching him than approve of the job he's doing
https://www.newsweek.com/support-donald-trump-impe...