45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

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Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Journalists are reporting:

There are police here on the hill circling politicians when they come in for the vote, keeping reporters away from them. This is not normal.
This is fked. The police say they're just "escorting" the senators to the vote. In effect, they're shielding them from taking questions. Never seen this before.

An officer smashed right into NBC's Lee-Anne Caldwell who was walking with a senator. Another reporter, who is pregnant, says she was also shoved. Lots of yelling between reporters and cops here, who are clearly blocking reporters from getting near senators.

Getting some answers on this. It seems this American Bridge staffer Mike Stark was here earlier today and got in the face of a politician. A senator complained about security and this is what we got as a response.

https://twitter.com/pdmcleod

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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What’s happening today is the president sought an appropriation for a program from congress, he didn’t get as much money for it as he wanted, and he’s trying to seize the appropriations power for himself, redirecting money for other things to his favored program.

Jay Welch
@welchjay
This national emergency is on the one year anniversary of the Parkland shooting, and it is not about that.

This national emergency is on the two year anniversary of Trump asking Comey to ignore a Trump campaign official’s lies about Russia, and it’s not about that either.




Edited by Byker28i on Thursday 14th February 21:22

Chimune

3,182 posts

224 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Yes Byker sorry I got swept up with CNN. wh is going to continue to think about it - then see what Muller comes out with tomorrow.

President speech on Venezuela on Tuesday.

Handy to ramp up the threats to invade for humanitarian reasons.... If he needs to.

Edit: bill passed.

_dobbo_

14,387 posts

249 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Rick Wilson (conservative GOP media guy) has weighed in on the "national emergency" with an interesting take on twitter.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/109614865829742...


Challo

10,168 posts

156 months

Thursday 14th February 2019
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Can this 'Emergency' be stopped in the courts? Or can he just do what he wants and take money from other areas?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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That aged well.

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Once again he cant think more than 2 mins ahead.

"If an emergency can be manufactured over border security when illegal border crossings are near a 20-year low, as measured by Border Patrol arrests, then it’s a snap to make the case for an emergency over gun deaths, which are near a 20-year high."

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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I just can't believe the "national crisis" lie is being swallowed.

It's so easy to dispel.

Why aren't the Democrats working harder to show Trump up on this?


Kinky

39,575 posts

270 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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RobDickinson said:


That aged well.
Not just the orange one hehe

Video from the same period ....... https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/10962267821...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Gameface said:
I just can't believe the "national crisis" lie is being swallowed.

It's so easy to dispel.

Why aren't the Democrats working harder to show Trump up on this?
I think they will ratchet things up. But it is double edged. One eye will be on how a Dem President could use this to bypass a GOP controlled Congress. Dems got rid of the filibuster to stop the GOP blocking Obama’s federal court judge picks. That bit them on the arse hard when McConnell did the same, one notch up, to get Trump’s SCOTUS picks installed.

Sometimes you’re the hammer and sometimes you’re the nail. But if it’s your turn to be the nail, chances are one day you’ll be the hammer again.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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I seriously dont know if we have enough stockpiles of hypocrisy for the current GOP party

kowalski655

14,656 posts

144 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Gameface said:
I just can't believe the "national crisis" lie is being swallowed.

It's so easy to dispel.

Why aren't the Democrats working harder to show Trump up on this?
Pretty much everything he says has been debunked,but his core support is still lapping it up.. by the time one lie is shown up,he's already done 5 more!

p1stonhead

25,576 posts

168 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Gameface said:
I just can't believe the "national crisis" lie is being swallowed.

It's so easy to dispel.

Why aren't the Democrats working harder to show Trump up on this?
The best emergencies are the ones planned months in advance.

shed driver

2,171 posts

161 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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p1stonhead said:
The best emergencies are the ones planned months in advance.
A bit "Wag the Dog" really.

SD.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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The courts will block this, until it gets to the Supreme court. But don't forget that there's already been court action blocking land being seized on the border to build the wall. The land wanted to build on belongs to people who don't want it and are fighting it through the courts


Adam Schiff
@RepAdamSchiff

Trump is declaring a national emergency to bypass Congress, to build a wall we don’t need, to address a crisis that doesn’t exist, by claiming an authority he doesn’t have.

If that sounds like nonsense, it’s because it is. It’s also plainly unconstitutional.

3:30 PM - 14 Feb 2019

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 15th February 08:18

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Looks like Burr is completely in trumps camp and is already telling lies for him. He's trying to sign off the Senate Intelligence Committee investigation as nothing found and is telling untruths about Steele and the dossier (proven to be almost 100% true).

Barr is now confirmed by trump as Attorney General

Burr did an interview: "Burr would only say that Steele remained of interest, but OUT OF REACH. 'We've made multiple attempts' ... Burr said, but declined to surmise why Steele would NOT ENGAGE."

Steele submitted written answers to the committee in August. The panel then withdrew the subpoena for his testimony

The body had prepared a subpoena for Steele’s testimony in March 2018, but withdrew it after he provided his written testimony in August. Investigators who have traveled to London since then have not approached Steele for an interview, according to Steele’s lawyer, who declined to be identified due to sensitivities surrounding the probe. Burr suggested in an interview with CBS last week that Steele remained out of reach. “We’ve made multiple attempts,” to elicit a response, Burr said.

Steele’s lawyer said that was “flatly not true,” and that the committee had actually agreed in writing not to seek further information from Steele after he submitted his written testimony. The panel has not reached out to request another interview, the lawyer said.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/...

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 15th February 08:32

Countdown

39,967 posts

197 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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kowalski655 said:
Gameface said:
I just can't believe the "national crisis" lie is being swallowed.

It's so easy to dispel.

Why aren't the Democrats working harder to show Trump up on this?
Pretty much everything he says has been debunked,but his core support is still lapping it up.. by the time one lie is shown up,he's already done 5 more!
This sums it up 100%. It worked for him during the primaries, it worked for him during the campaign, and it’s worked for him for the last 2 years. Why change a winning formula?

Some people will say that he’s “not winning”. They don’t realise he’s playing a completely different game. Screw what’s good for the US, as long as he keeps getting public attention and public adulation he’s happy.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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The Justice Department has warned the White House a national emergency declaration is nearly certain to be blocked by the courts on, at least, a temporary basis, preventing the immediate implementation of Trump's plan to build the wall,

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-emergency...


Hard to see how this could be seen as a win. He wanted $25bn for his wall, shutdown the government because he didn't get $5.7bn, was offered $1.6bn, now it looks like he's goign to have to accept $1.3bn.

Art of the deal indeed.

Byker28i

60,142 posts

218 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Nancy Pelosi

“Declaring a national emergency would be a lawless act, a gross abuse of the power of the presidency and a desperate attempt to distract from the fact that President Trump broke his core promise to have Mexico pay for his wall.

“It is yet another demonstration of President Trump’s naked contempt for the rule of law. This is not an emergency, and the president’s fearmongering doesn’t make it one. He couldn’t convince Mexico, the American people or their elected representatives to pay for his ineffective and expensive wall, so now he’s trying an end-run around Congress in a desperate attempt to put taxpayers on the hook for it. The Congress will defend our constitutional authorities.”

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/21419-2/

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Friday 15th February 2019
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Now she's a politician!
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