45th President of the United States, Donald Trump. (Vol 6)

[Gameface]

Engelberger said:

Keep up the good work Byker.

Trump supporters are like Farage supporters and should be largely ignored.

Trump is a cretin. Farage certainly is not.

I can't stand Trump but don't mind Farage.

[B'stard Child]

Gameface said:

Engelberger said:

Keep up the good work Byker.

Trump supporters are like Farage supporters and should be largely ignored.

Trump is a cretin. Farage certainly is not.

I can't stand Trump but don't mind Farage.

Trump is great he's really made USA Politics interesting

Farage not so much but right now he's providing a vehicle to wake up the HoC

[Byker28i]

Gameface said:

Trump is a cretin. Farage certainly is not.

I can't stand Trump but don't mind Farage.

Both are opportunists, both have something about them that make people love them, are prepared to support them to the bitter end. In the case of trump to the point of throwing their lives away

[Byker28i]

Byker28i said:

Time for another NAtional Emergency - not much has happened on the wall since that became one...

Sen. Chris Murphy is warning that the Trump admin is considering a move to bypass Congress and push through the sale of bombs to Saudi Arabia by declaring a national emergency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/senat...

OK quoting myself, but trump has done exactly this
The Trump admin has invoked a rarely used provision of American arms control laws to sidestep Congress and authorize billions in weapons sales to key Middle East allies, angering lawmakers who characterized the decision as an abuse of power,

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-invokes-emergen...

There's huge implications to trumps abuse of power, he needs to be controlled through the accepted checks and balances.

[Tampon]

BrabusMog said:

The last few posters do kind of highlight Ian's point

... that one man makes an argument and backs it up with evidence widely available to everyone and people "feel" it is not right so criticise based on their opinion on their own empirical evidence without sharing it?

Yeah Byker is invested, I'm pleased he is. Argue the point he is making, back it up with evidence from more than one source,don't bash him for being a uber geek (sorry Byker, i love you for it though). This st is happening right now. It has happened before, you don't see people walking around saying they were Max Mosley supporters, nor Nixon voters, for a reason ( they were on the wrong side of history). They were vocal at the time though playing "devil's advocate".

History repeats, people, normal people get sucked in to man of the people crap all the time, enemy within. Seriously study history (easy for me to say I am a history teacher). You should have heard what they said about the french and dutch after the great fire of London, make trump and the "caravans" look like child's play.

The bit that blows my mind as a 38 year old, I grew up on American cold war films, Rocky 4, hunt for red October etc etc Now communism and Russia are friends of the good old U S of A

I am with you Byker, mad that we are living through this. Can't wait to teach this in 20 years time when it become "History".First lesson I ever gave on 9/11 was really strange think I was a adult as this happened, as my mum used to say " I remember when that happened, me and your father..."

tts on here will forget the "good employment and economy" when the weight of what has happened comes to bear. they will happily move on be bhing and arguing and "giving balance" to the next fking idiot trying for power with the same old st dressed with new lipstick. There is no consequence for being a knob and rolling with the populist, they can slink off and wait for the next super rich ball licker of the chavs to escalate them in their weak feeble lives.

edited for drunken spelling

Edited by Tampon on Friday 24th May 20:55

[BrabusMog]

Byker28i said:

Byker28i said:

Time for another NAtional Emergency - not much has happened on the wall since that became one...

Sen. Chris Murphy is warning that the Trump admin is considering a move to bypass Congress and push through the sale of bombs to Saudi Arabia by declaring a national emergency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/senat...

OK quoting myself, but trump has done exactly this
The Trump admin has invoked a rarely used provision of American arms control laws to sidestep Congress and authorize billions in weapons sales to key Middle East allies, angering lawmakers who characterized the decision as an abuse of power,

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-invokes-emergen...

There's huge implications to trumps abuse of power, he needs to be controlled through the accepted checks and balances.

A national emergency so he can sells weapons how gullible are the people that vote/voted for him?!

[Byker28i]

Washington Post opinion piece about trump extending his corruption into the intelligence agencies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/05/24...

Then Barr wants to know more about the CIA’s informants in Russia and what they passed along about the 2016 interference. Sources are among the CIA’s most closely held secrets

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/politics/tru...

trump thinks the the intelligence agencies work against him, don't support him, so is putting people in place to corrupt even the intelligence agencies, weaponise them for trump

In doing so, trumps has said he's declassified all allied intelligence from the FBI, GCHQ, MI6, AVID & ASIS to allow Barr to get revenge for him This is the end of the 5-EYES relationship. No ones going to share information with the US any more.

[stevesingo]

Byker28i said:

In doing so, trumps has said he's declassified all allied intelligence from the FBI, GCHQ, MI6, AVID & ASIS to allow Barr to get revenge for him This is the end of the 5-EYES relationship. No ones going to share information with the US any more.

Wow!

Does he realise how damaging that is to intelligence co-operation?

I really don't see where this will end. The US is being and what it stands for is being dismantled before the people's eyes and no one can see it, or if they can, the are happy for it to happen as it makes them richer as an individual.

[Tryke3]

If you are a spy right now you must not be sleeping very well

[anonymous-user]

stevesingo said:

Byker28i said:

In doing so, trumps has said he's declassified all allied intelligence from the FBI, GCHQ, MI6, AVID & ASIS to allow Barr to get revenge for him This is the end of the 5-EYES relationship. No ones going to share information with the US any more.

Wow!

Does he realise how damaging that is to intelligence co-operation?

I really don't see where this will end. The US is being and what it stands for is being dismantled before the people's eyes and no one can see it, or if they can, the are happy for it to happen as it makes them richer as an individual.

That can't be true can it?

[paulguitar]

I think it is fair to say that we have grown a bit tired here of referring to ‘new lows’ but trumplethinskin retweeting a doctored video of Nancy Pelosi attempting to make her (a non-drinker) appear drunk, must be in the running for a ’new low’, even from the festering worthless steaming orange turd bandit.

[_dobbo_]

IanH755 said:

So when someone who is pro-Trump (or even fairly neutral-Trump) posts on here, they don't get "discussion" they just get insults inferring that they are racists etc.

Ah the old "racist" chestnut again. I'm sure it will only be the work of a moment to find a example of this if it's so prevalent?

[Byker28i]

desolate said:

That can't be true can it?

All true I'm afraid. He stood on the white house lawn and announced it.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/445478...

Then how about dragging Australia into it, as it was their diplomat who first reported a drunk papadopolus bragging about how they were working with the russians

The US leader addressed reporters on the White House lawn, telling the press he authorised his Attorney-General William Barr to examine what could be "millions of pages".

"I hope he looks at Australia and I hope he looks at Ukraine," Mr Trump said.

"I hope he looks at everything, because there was a hoax that was perpetrated on our country.

"Somebody has to get to the bottom of it."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-25/donald-trum...


Mr. Trump said on Friday that he wanted Mr. Barr to “get to the bottom” of what the intelligence agencies knew about the investigation into his campaign. He promised, “We’re exposing everything.”

The president raised questions about C.I.A. involvement in the origins of the Russia investigation, and other officials said Mr. Barr wanted to learn more about sources in Russia, including a key informant who helped the C.I.A. conclude that President Vladimir V. Putin ordered the intrusion on the 2016 election. Mr. Trump also invoked two close allies, Australia and Britain, telling reporters he wanted the attorney general to examine their roles in sharing intelligence about Russia’s interference.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/politics/tru...


trump didn't like the message from the intelligence agencies, that he'd been caught working with the russians, so in typical trump is doing his best to attack those he feels are against him.

[Byker28i]

The good news is that intelligence agencys are doing the same to trump and Barr that they have been doing to congress.

Dan Coats, Director of National Intelligence, answered Attorney General Bill Barr’s request for information, “the Intelligence Community (IC) will provide the Department of Justice all of the appropriate information for its review of intelligence activities related to Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election.” The key word here is “appropriate”.

[Gameface]

The intelligence agencies must have so much dirt on Trump from down the years, before we even get to the presidency and Russian collusion etc.

It's a battle he can't win. They can destroy him.

The intelligence agencies will be around long after Trump has gone.

[djc206]

Gameface said:

The intelligence agencies must have so much dirt on Trump from down the years, before we even get to the presidency and Russian collusion etc.

It's a battle he can't win. They can destroy him.

The intelligence agencies will be around long after Trump has gone.

I’m not sure I’d pick a fight with the CIA, they’re known for being a little bit murdery.

[Gameface]

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the declassification of documents "long overdue."

Well except the Mueller report obviously...

[Al Gorithum]

So the AG will get to review all IC documents, then shred anything that exposes Trump's naughtiness?

[Gameface]

I think the intelligence community would see him bumped off before giving up all their secrets.

[Gandahar]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-4840492...


They talk about politicians trying to make long lasting friends.

Trump seems to be trying to make long lasting enemies.


This is the same country who has a young "non" leader that as has poorly done in Yemen, poorly done with Qatar and who tried to force the US shale producers to collapse, but then failed.

Oh, and the small matter of murdering people in an embassy.

Yet Trump still backs him, whilst alienating his own politicians because he has not fully understood how things work over there. He sees Israel as the cowboys and Iran as the red Indians.....