Sky News stories about fears of disorder and shortages

[Sheepshanks]

garagewidow said:

Proper beer doesn't need fizzing.

Brewing produces CO2 but it's hard to capture and recycle. It's needed to purge bottles etc before they're filled.

Edited by Sheepshanks on Sunday 18th November 10:43

[Salmonofdoubt]

I’ve got a new tv and some crisps. Am I doing this right?

[Helicopter123]

JONSCZ said:

This thread makes me cross too, but not for the same reasons some of you on here have mentioned.
I actually filmed the part of the report for Sky with the mother who was stockpiling the food. Except that wasn't the point of the bit with her, as the reporter explained.
The mother has a severely disabled child with Cerebral Palsy and actually being with her for a while, it was obvious that she was genuinely terrified that the supply of the specialised medicine on which her daughter relies, could be restricted and not be readily available.
Her daughter is unable to take any other medicine to control her illness except the one she's taking (which comes from the EU) and if anything happens to the supply, the consequences could be extremely serious for her.
In her position, wouldn't you be concerned and want to highlight to anyone else in this situation what could happen (and it was made clear that it's what COULD happen, not what WILL happen.) But she needs to know and try to make contingency plans.
You'd want answers from the politicians who are making the decisions on our behalf, too.
If it makes one other person in a similar position think about this and make plans now, then I think it was a story worth covering.
It's not "the news trying to be the news". It's reporting what's affecting people every day and it was done in a non-sensational way.

The moment Cabinet was told that Brexit could result in the death of sick children, that should have been it, the whole thing postponed or better still cancelled.

[JONSCZ]

I knew this would make those of you who don't know how these kind of stories work try and tell those of us who do.
She wasn't 'taken advantage of' - the story came from her as she wanted to highlight a 'possible problem' which is what it did and wasn't sensational at all. The media is a way of letting those people in power know just what Brexit means for people in the real world.
As for the 'wont someone think of the children' type comment. If it was your child, then you'd want exactly that.
Also, the comment about 'someone with a media studies degree being kept in a job' - If that was directed at me, then I've been a cameraman for 30 years - long before any modern 'media type degree'. If it wasn't, then no worries.
Also, I'm certainly not 'ashamed of myself'. It was a report which, if you found yourself in a similar situation, could enable you to think ahead and plan accordingly.

[B'stard Child]

Helicopter123 said:

JONSCZ said:

This thread makes me cross too, but not for the same reasons some of you on here have mentioned.
I actually filmed the part of the report for Sky with the mother who was stockpiling the food. Except that wasn't the point of the bit with her, as the reporter explained.
The mother has a severely disabled child with Cerebral Palsy and actually being with her for a while, it was obvious that she was genuinely terrified that the supply of the specialised medicine on which her daughter relies, could be restricted and not be readily available.
Her daughter is unable to take any other medicine to control her illness except the one she's taking (which comes from the EU) and if anything happens to the supply, the consequences could be extremely serious for her.
In her position, wouldn't you be concerned and want to highlight to anyone else in this situation what could happen (and it was made clear that it's what COULD happen, not what WILL happen.) But she needs to know and try to make contingency plans.
You'd want answers from the politicians who are making the decisions on our behalf, too.
If it makes one other person in a similar position think about this and make plans now, then I think it was a story worth covering.
It's not "the news trying to be the news". It's reporting what's affecting people every day and it was done in a non-sensational way.

The moment Cabinet was told that Brexit could result in the death of sick children, that should have been it, the whole thing postponed or better still cancelled.

Rubbish post - people and children die everyday even in a non third world country - the NHS can't afford to treat everyone because of the number requiring treatment and the waste in the system.

The motor car causes deaths on a regular basis - the moment the Cabinet are told of this they should all be banned from the roads

Sheesh any possible reason that aligns with cancelling Brexit or holding a second referendum and you are on it like Corbyn on chips.

I'm not sure you are even of a sound mind, perhaps you have a unicorn stuck somewhere?

[JONSCZ]

B'stard Child said:

Rubbish post - people and children die everyday even in a non third world country - the NHS can't afford to treat everyone because of the number requiring treatment and the waste in the system.

The motor car causes deaths on a regular basis - the moment the Cabinet are told of this they should all be banned from the roads

Sheesh any possible reason that aligns with cancelling Brexit or holding a second referendum and you are on it like Corbyn on chips.

I'm not sure you are even of a sound mind, perhaps you have a unicorn stuck somewhere?

I am not quite sure what to make of this.
It's nothing to do with the NHS, money. 'cancelling Brexit', 2nd referendum or roads, at all.
The bit of the report I was trying to highlight (without reverting to silly comments about unicorns) was about someone who wants to ensure she can continue giving her child the medicine on which she relies.

[bitchstewie]

JONSCZ said:

I knew this would make those of you who don't know how these kind of stories work try and tell those of us who do.
She wasn't 'taken advantage of' - the story came from her as she wanted to highlight a 'possible problem' which is what it did and wasn't sensational at all. The media is a way of letting those people in power know just what Brexit means for people in the real world.
As for the 'wont someone think of the children' type comment. If it was your child, then you'd want exactly that.
Also, the comment about 'someone with a media studies degree being kept in a job' - If that was directed at me, then I've been a cameraman for 30 years - long before any modern 'media type degree'. If it wasn't, then no worries.
Also, I'm certainly not 'ashamed of myself'. It was a report which, if you found yourself in a similar situation, could enable you to think ahead and plan accordingly.

Honestly I'd save you breath. People have watched the report on Sky.

It's not as if you were actually there or involved or anything.

Oh old on...

[B'stard Child]

JONSCZ said:

B'stard Child said:

Rubbish post - people and children die everyday even in a non third world country - the NHS can't afford to treat everyone because of the number requiring treatment and the waste in the system.

The motor car causes deaths on a regular basis - the moment the Cabinet are told of this they should all be banned from the roads

Sheesh any possible reason that aligns with cancelling Brexit or holding a second referendum and you are on it like Corbyn on chips.

I'm not sure you are even of a sound mind, perhaps you have a unicorn stuck somewhere?

I am not quite sure what to make of this.
It's nothing to do with the NHS, money. 'cancelling Brexit', 2nd referendum or roads, at all.
The bit of the report I was trying to highlight (without reverting to silly comments about unicorns) was about someone who wants to ensure she can continue giving her child the medicine on which she relies.

Meh I knew I should have snipped the bulk of your post in replying to.Budgie..........

You could have left it in too

[JONSCZ]

Ian - as you can tell from my reply, I clearly thought you were replying to my post. Sorry.

[B'stard Child]

JONSCZ said:

Ian - as you can tell from my reply, I clearly thought you were replying to my post. Sorry.

No apology required - I should have snipped the bulk of your post out but I was doing it on a phone and it gets messy if I get it wrong.

Will see the programme when I get back in the UK hopefully I can view it on catch up

oh an then I will comment with what I think

[zb]

JulianHJ said:

Sky News have published a couple of stories in the past 24 hours concerning fears of a no deal Brexit. The first concerns a mother increasing her food storage over the next few months, and the second features a Police Federation spokesman highlighting the difficulties faced by forces in a worst case scenario.

Disorder predicted in the event of a no deal Brexit:
https://news.sky.com/video/police-no-deal-brexit-m...

Stockpiling food due to Brexit fears:
https://news.sky.com/video/stockpiling-food-over-b...

How concerned are you about the possibility of a no deal Brexit? Are you preparing in any way, do you feel it's just sensationalism? Prepping appears to be a very American pastime, but I was wondering whether we'll see any increased interest over here.

Your last sentence hits closer to the mark than you think re: a very American pastime. We must be vigilant against Sky news becoming the British version of Fox, albeit watered down for our palate.

[Salmonofdoubt]

Helicopter123 said:

The moment Cabinet was told that Brexit could result in the death of sick children, that should have been it, the whole thing postponed or better still cancelled.

Given we’ve had plenty of notice about Brexit I am sure the NHS and it’s suppliers have done some contingency planning so that the only sick children who die are those who sadly cannot be helped.

I’ve been a remainer since day one, but only because I like the option of choosing which member state I live and work in without hassle, this scaremongering is utter bks.

[Paul Dishman]

Some of my former patients who could "only" take a particular generic brand of medicine because "it's the only one that works" are going to have to become a lot less fussy. My guess is that the medicine supply market will tighten up and prices increase as wholesalers start hoarding again

[JONSCZ]

I'm also doing this on my phone, so 'quoting' isn't as easy as on a desktop.
Couple of other things.
Sky won't become a British version of Fox as it's totally owned by Comcast and has nothing to do with Fox.
Also, the quote about having to use alternative medicines was actually asked during the interview and is a good question. She did say it had taken her daughter many, many months to get used to the medicine she's on atm and that she's tried numerous alternatives with less success. In her words, she said "It's not like changing from Paracetamol to Ibuprofen". It was also nothing to do with the cost, either. She was prepared to buy it in bulk, but she's not able to do so.

I didn't post my initial response to defend the media's coverage of Brexit (I don't agree with everything that's on the mainstream media) or to defend Sky. Like many threads on here, it's gone off at a tangent.
It's just that with this particular story, with this particular scenario, I know what was said and reported and how the story was achieved and it was heart braking to see her concern and to see her daughter suffer. I really hope for her sake (and for other's I the same situation) that it turns out to be a scenario that doesn't actually materialise.

Edited by JONSCZ on Saturday 17th November 20:08

[oldcynic]

Surely the headline for the Sky news piece is putting the focus in the wrong place? The mother's real concern is for potential supply chain problems with epilepsy meds, but the headline focusses on her stockpiling food (which she is also doing).

Personally I don't have space to stockpile food (stupid modern house with kitchen designed for reheating pizzas) but I'll refill the wine rack next time Tesco have 25% off.

[jdw100]

I left the country.

Personally can’t wait to see what happens...watching from afar.

Kind of hoping the property market crashes - might swoop in and buy another flat.

If the £ drops low enough - might buy some.

Perhaps though I’ll be making up packages of food and medicines to send to family and friends?

As much as I sort of hope it’s a massive st show for the brexit-voters (like my dad, to my shame) I will feel so sorry for almost everyone else I know - who voted against.

I shall offer them safe haven from fighting over the last few cans of baked beans in a burnt out Asda like something from an early edition of 2000AD.

Hmmmm....maybe it’s a good time to start selling cross-bows online? You guys won’t want to be fighting those dog-sized rats hand to hand will you? Don’t expect President Rees-Mogg’s Imperial Guard to waste bullets assisting you, unless as a mercy shot.....

[55palfers]

As to continuing supply of medication.

I assume EU pharma will still make the drugs.

The NHS / MHRA still recognise EU medical regs and compliance standards.

UK Customs will be instructed to fast track all prescription medicines.

[LDN]

Interestingly, a drug that my mum takes daily; is in short supply and she was told by the doctor; it is because of Brexit. I don’t know the ins and outs; or any details - but basically; she was told that the drug she relies on will run out completely and pretty much already has. Bizarre. The idea that one poster here has said that, people that are on certain drugs should be ‘less picky’ is hilarious, given people take to different drugs, differently. Anyway, her doctor wrote a prescription for one years supply of the stuff, after finding out that her son was in France. She scanned and emailed me the prescription, and I popped into a pharmacy and bought boxes and boxes of the stuff. All’s well that ends well (ish).

Whether the doctor was wide of the mark, I don’t know; but one pharmacist also backed up his assertion.

[anonymous-user]

LDN said:

Interestingly, a drug that my mum takes daily; is in short supply and she was told by the doctor; it is because of Brexit. I don’t know the ins and outs; or any details - but basically; she was told that the drug she relies on will run out completely and pretty much already has. Bizarre. The idea that one poster here has said that, people that are on certain drugs should be ‘less picky’ is hilarious, given people take to different drugs, differently. Anyway, her doctor wrote a prescription for one years supply of the stuff, after finding out that her son was in France. She scanned and emailed me the prescription, and I popped into a pharmacy and bought boxes and boxes of the stuff. All’s well that ends well (ish).

Whether the doctor was wide of the mark, I don’t know; but one pharmacist also backed up his assertion.

Really? Brexit hasn’t happened yet. No reason on earth why it would affect supply at this stage.

[Paul Dishman]

LDN said:

Interestingly, a drug that my mum takes daily; is in short supply and she was told by the doctor; it is because of Brexit. I don’t know the ins and outs; or any details - but basically; she was told that the drug she relies on will run out completely and pretty much already has. Bizarre. The idea that one poster here has said that, people that are on certain drugs should be ‘less picky’ is hilarious, given people take to different drugs, differently. Anyway, her doctor wrote a prescription for one years supply of the stuff, after finding out that her son was in France. She scanned and emailed me the prescription, and I popped into a pharmacy and bought boxes and boxes of the stuff. All’s well that ends well (ish).

Whether the doctor was wide of the mark, I don’t know; but one pharmacist also backed up his assertion.

I’d be interested to know which drug that was. Perhaps you could PM me and I could find out what the situation is.
I was referring to different brands of the same drug, often made in the same factory, with the only different being the packaging. Irrational, but I had 40 years of dealing with often irrational people

Edited by Paul Dishman on Sunday 18th November 10:32