Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

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turbobloke

103,983 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Bill said:
Like bedtime drinks some opinions are sillier than others.

Just because the MSM isn't as obsessed as some on here doesn't mean there's a blackout.
Good to see you agree with the general lack of coverage in the MSM.

Nobody claimed a blackout, that's already been clarified smile

Going for the personal attack on unnamed PHers speaks volumes about the strength of your argument.

Time for a cup of Ovaltine Horlicks Douwe Egberts.

coffee

768

13,692 posts

97 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Dim. hehe

I find there's always an article in some corner of the BBC news site if you know what to look for (at the moment there's nothing on the main page, nothing on the world page and even nothing on the Europe page, also nothing on the Politics page). It's even harder to find it on the TV.

kev1974

4,029 posts

130 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Bill said:
That was the first hit I found, feel free to look for yourself. There is no blackout, partial or otherwise.
I would say it's hardly hitting the front pages though, you have to go hunting to find stories.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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irocfan said:
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm NOT on the side of the yellow vests. The 'Juden' really says it all eek
The problem is, when they do graffiti like that it damages the cause.


It is the same when you get a few EDL thugs going on a "leave means leave" march.

Those that they are protesting against rub their hands together with glee as it gives them a spin.








Bill

52,799 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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kev1974 said:
I would say it's hardly hitting the front pages though, you have to go hunting to find stories.
No, it's not a priority for the MSM. But it's also not an "almost complete blackout".

The MSM simply don't attach the same level of importance to it as people who really want it to be a popular revolt.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Bill said:
kev1974 said:
I would say it's hardly hitting the front pages though, you have to go hunting to find stories.
No, it's not a priority for the MSM. But it's also not an "almost complete blackout".

The MSM simply don't attach the same level of importance to it as people who really want it to be a popular revolt.
Exactly. A lot of wannabe news editors here who’d like the opportunity to push their own agenda. The yellow vest protests aren’t being covered up - there’s just not much to report. Public appetite for news items is fleeting. The fact the yellow vest tag has been appropriated by a mixed bag of people with a variety of motivations has rather diluted the impact. Witness the epic fail of a few EDL/UKIP types to hijack the idea and bring it to the U.K. a few weeks back - not enough people prepared to hold their noses and get involved alongside.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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irocfan said:
For the avoidance of doubt, I'm NOT on the side of the yellow vests. The 'Juden' really says it all eek
I know you're not, but some on here need to understand the kind of people that they are cheerleaders for.

From anarchist acab car burning whack jobs to ultra right wing neo fascists delightful people the lot of them

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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citizensm1th said:
I know you're not, but some on here need to understand the kind of people that they are cheerleaders for.

From anarchist acab car burning whack jobs to ultra right wing neo fascists delightful people the lot of them
But they are just your typical left wing jobs.

TheRainMaker

6,343 posts

243 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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Can’t believe this is still going on, I must live in some sort of bubble.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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gizlaroc said:
But they are just your typical left wing jobs.
Bullcrap, you have the full spectrum of trouble makers on these marches.
Last weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.

It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking

BrabusMog

20,179 posts

187 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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TheRainMaker said:


Can’t believe this is still going on, I must live in some sort of bubble.
It's a daily occurrence in Gothenburg.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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citizensm1th said:
Bullcrap, you have the full spectrum of trouble makers on these marches.
Last weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.

It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking
JUDEN is the far left that believe the Jews like Soros are running the globe. Same with those that are going round smashing up cars.
It is the anti capitalists getting involved.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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gizlaroc said:
JUDEN is the far left that believe the Jews like Soros are running the globe. Same with those that are going round smashing up cars.
It is the anti capitalists getting involved.
You keep thinking it's just the left Mr sleepwalker

It seems you don't understand German either

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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citizensm1th said:
You keep thinking it's just the left Mr sleepwalker

It seems you don't understand German either
But the line is getting blurred.

That is the funny thing with the 'far' left, most of them hate the capitalist Jews, but hate the fact they are seen by many in the same light as the neo nazi's or the EDL.
They are as bad as each other.

Whether it is Antifa smashing up a Jewish Bakery or some Right Wing extremist there is no difference. They both think they are right. They are both abhorrent aholes.





citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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gizlaroc said:
But the line is getting blurred.

That is the funny thing with the 'far' left, most of them hate the capitalist Jews, but hate the fact they are seen by many in the same light as the neo nazi's or the EDL.
They are as bad as each other.

Whether it is Antifa smashing up a Jewish Bakery or some Right Wing extremist there is no difference. They both think they are right. They are both abhorrent aholes.
I am glad you agree it is not just a leftwing problem.

It is classic revolutionary tactics, attach your self to a populist movement and create havoc and hope that you can advance your cause during the chaos

Good on the French state and police for not giving way

turbobloke

103,983 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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citizensm1th said:
I am glad you agree it is not just a leftwing problem.

It is classic revolutionary tactics, attach your self to a populist movement and create havoc and hope that you can advance your cause during the chaos

Good on the French state and police for not giving way
Macron caved in some time ago, The planned fuel tax rises were postponed then ditched.

He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
Macron caved in some time ago, The planned fuel tax rises were postponed then ditched.

He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.
Yes he gave in to the moderate protesters demands, I can't see him giving in to the extremists at either end though

And at least he has not done a de gaul

turbobloke

103,983 posts

261 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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citizensm1th said:
turbobloke said:
Macron caved in some time ago, The planned fuel tax rises were postponed then ditched.

He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.
Yes he gave in to the moderate protesters demands, I can't see him giving in to the extremists at either end though

And at least he has not done a de gaul
Fair point about extremists hitching a ride. On that score our plod could learn a thing or two when international anarchists join in and commit criminal acts.

Not sure this extremism label applies to people standing peacefully away from the action filming it on their mobiles.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

138 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
Fair point about extremists hitching a ride. On that score our plod could learn a thing or two when international anarchists join in and commit criminal acts.

Not sure this extremism label applies to people standing peacefully away from the action filming it on their mobiles.
Well its that old saying you are known by who you associate with.

Really knowing how the French police deal with rioting would you even be stood in the same street if you didn't have to?

It's like that fella that lost his hand, how dumb do you have to be to try throwing back a Cs grenade that has just been fired at you?

Digga

40,337 posts

284 months

Tuesday 12th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
citizensm1th said:
turbobloke said:
Macron caved in some time ago, The planned fuel tax rises were postponed then ditched.

He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.
Yes he gave in to the moderate protesters demands, I can't see him giving in to the extremists at either end though

And at least he has not done a de gaul
Fair point about extremists hitching a ride. On that score our plod could learn a thing or two when international anarchists join in and commit criminal acts.

Not sure this extremism label applies to people standing peacefully away from the action filming it on their mobiles.
Agreed, but the extremism angle is often pounced upon by the establishment as a convenient way to tar the whole protest movement. The rank and file of the movement are, thereby, stuck between the two political extremes and also the authorities.