Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France
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Well the moderate protesters got one of their two original demands, I'd call that a result.
As for the wealth tax you can vote for a party next time that wants to raise taxes.
It seems this has just devolved in to a good chance to knock heads with the police
And that is something the French seem to like to do now and again
As for the wealth tax you can vote for a party next time that wants to raise taxes.
It seems this has just devolved in to a good chance to knock heads with the police
And that is something the French seem to like to do now and again
Digga said:
turbobloke said:
citizensm1th said:
turbobloke said:
Macron caved in some time ago, The planned fuel tax rises were postponed then ditched.
He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.
Yes he gave in to the moderate protesters demands, I can't see him giving in to the extremists at either end though He's not long come out of hiding in his palais. Massive misjudgement that will define his time in office.
And at least he has not done a de gaul
Not sure this extremism label applies to people standing peacefully away from the action filming it on their mobiles.
gizlaroc said:
citizensm1th said:
Bullcrap, you have the full spectrum of trouble makers on these marches.
Last weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.
It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking
JUDEN is the far left that believe the Jews like Soros are running the globeLast weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.
It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking
Lentilist said:
I'm possibly missing something, but pretty much all of the anti-Soros stuff is coming from the far/alt-right. It's a central theme of Viktor Orban's government in Hungary, the Republican Party up to and including Trump have hinted or outright stated (Matt Gaetz) he was funding the migrant caravans, Alex Jones has blamed him for pretty much everything you can think of (paying crisis actors in school shootings etc) and it's central tenet of pretty much any conspiracy or white nationalist portal you care to look at that Soros is a leftist-globalist out to undermine America / American values / European identity. It's got to the point where alt-right conspiracists with differences of opinion accuse each other of being Soros plants. To suggest it's a left-wing idea is, being charitable, not borne out by facts.
Says the Soros plant.....
citizensm1th said:
It's like that fella that lost his hand, how dumb do you have to be to try throwing back a Cs grenade that has just been fired at you?
A witness said:
That guy was just observing. The police arrived and started throwing grenades. One grenade flew right under the guy’s feet, and he tried to instinctively push it away with his hand, he hit it, and the grenade went off.
768 said:
citizensm1th said:
It's like that fella that lost his hand, how dumb do you have to be to try throwing back a Cs grenade that has just been fired at you?
A witness said:
That guy was just observing. The police arrived and started throwing grenades. One grenade flew right under the guy’s feet, and he tried to instinctively push it away with his hand, he hit it, and the grenade went off.
768 said:
A witness said:
That guy was just observing. The police arrived and started throwing grenades. One grenade flew right under the guy’s feet, and he tried to instinctively push it away with his hand, he hit it, and the grenade went off.
It was by his feet and he instinctively bent over, moving his face and torso towards it, to push it away with his hand.What a convincing account...
Bill said:
Hmmm... It was by his feet and he instinctively bent over, moving his face and torso towards it, to push it away with his hand.
What a convincing account...
Hilarious isn't it, the video shows a number of people picking up Cs canisters and throwing them back at plod until one goes bang It was by his feet and he instinctively bent over, moving his face and torso towards it, to push it away with his hand.What a convincing account...
citizensm1th said:
Strange then that there is a vidio proporting to be him that shows him bending down to pick it up as it exploded, but that does not fit the narrative now does it
Link to that particular video, please.I've just read 3 different accounts of what supposedely took place and what the explosive
was actually contained in.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XZvR4D-2Ba8
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/demonstrator-lo...
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/demonstrator-lo...
Not that it matters much to whoever it happened to.
Or anyone that thinks it's fair game to use the type of device that causes these type of
life changing injuries. Fwiw, I don't think anything apart from self defence is acceptable from
those demonstrating either.
As for being known by those you associate with, the original protesters have been joined
by extremists from all sides of the French political spectrum, not the other way round.
Lentilist said:
gizlaroc said:
citizensm1th said:
Bullcrap, you have the full spectrum of trouble makers on these marches.
Last weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.
It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking
JUDEN is the far left that believe the Jews like Soros are running the globeLast weekend you had antifa fighting with neo fascist while both sides wore high viz and fought with the police.
It is not just the left wing protesting other than your wishful thinking
Just look at some of the message boards and facebook groups Corbyn and his pals post on.
John145 said:
citizensm1th said:
Hilarious isn't it, the video shows a number of people picking up Cs canisters and throwing them back at plod until one goes bang
Details are important. CS cans don’t go bang, ever. They burn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLI-F4_Grenade
some go bang like the french use, some go pop and spread cs pellets to disperse the gas and old style ones stay intact and just burn(these ones are the ones you can throw back)
never use the word "ever" it can so easily make you look a tit
citizensm1th said:
768 said:
citizensm1th said:
It's like that fella that lost his hand, how dumb do you have to be to try throwing back a Cs grenade that has just been fired at you?
A witness said:
That guy was just observing. The police arrived and started throwing grenades. One grenade flew right under the guy’s feet, and he tried to instinctively push it away with his hand, he hit it, and the grenade went off.
gooner1 said:
Link to that particular video, please.
.
https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/10943356162030....
https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/10943260889715...
remember children don't throw fireworks it is dangerous
gooner1 said:
Hard to make out exactly what happened in either of those videos, but going
by the above diagrams that were included in the second one, it was hardly a CS gas canister .
More of an explosive grenade with 26g of TNT packed in.
It is rated as a non lethal noise and gas grenade and as far as i know it worked perfectly
It even says on the pic you posted it contains 10g of gas (trip to spec savers perhaps?)
Edited by citizensm1th on Tuesday 12th February 21:52
citizensm1th said:
gooner1 said:
Hard to make out exactly what happened in either of those videos, but going
by the above diagrams that were included in the second one, it was hardly a CS gas canister .
More of an explosive grenade with 26g of TNT packed in.
It is rated as a non lethal noise and gas grenade and as far as i know it worked perfectly
It even says on the pic you posted it contains 10g of gas (trip to spec savers perhaps?)
Edited by citizensm1th on Tuesday 12th February 21:52
less of an explosive device than a tear gas dispenser?
It even says in it's description ,Stun Grenade.
You may need, want to look up the meaning of the word " hardly", depending
on how silly you want to feel.
Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 12th February 22:10
Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 12th February 22:16
gooner1 said:
citizensm1th said:
gooner1 said:
Hard to make out exactly what happened in either of those videos, but going
by the above diagrams that were included in the second one, it was hardly a CS gas canister .
More of an explosive grenade with 26g of TNT packed in.
It is rated as a non lethal noise and gas grenade and as far as i know it worked perfectly
It even says on the pic you posted it contains 10g of gas (trip to spec savers perhaps?)
Edited by citizensm1th on Tuesday 12th February 21:52
less of an explosive device than a tear gas dispenser?
It even says in it's description ,Stun Grenade.
You may need, want to look up the meaning of the word " hardly", depending
on how silly you want to feel.
Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 12th February 22:10
Edited by gooner1 on Tuesday 12th February 22:16
it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
citizensm1th said:
you may want to think about the meaning of the phrase "stun grenade"
it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
Good Post.it is not designed to kill it is designed to make a very very loud noise and a flash and to also deploy cs gas at the same time.
When you watch the footage you can even see why that was used, you had a group of rioters throwing back cs canisters as the police deployed them, so it looks to me that a decision was made to fire at least one if not more of these stun types to try to dissuade them from picking up and throwing the more normal type.
unfortunately for matey he chose the wrong one to pick up, now you can keep dancing on the head of your pin but the fact remains it is his own fault he lost his fingers, it is his fault he was rioting it is his fault he was trying to throw a cs canister back at the police.
he could have walked away from that confrontation at any time but he did not
you cannot even argue that he would have been unaware that the french police use these types of stun grenade as they have been using them for years, indeed these are the safer version as they withdrew an even more dangerous version years ago.
Matey decided it would be fun to take on the french riot police who have a well deserved reputation for going in hard and using methods that the british police would love to be able to use in similar situations but can't.
It is also not for us to tell the french how they treat rioting crowds i am sure you would be amongst the first to complain if the french started telling the british government how to respond in similar circumstances.
quite frankly i am staggered people are defending feral crowds burning cars ,spraying anti semitic views and smashing up shop fronts along with attacking the police.
I do not seem to remember posters like yourself defending the rioters in london and elsewhere a few years ago.
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