Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

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Earthdweller

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Sunday 24th February 2019
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smn159 said:
Earthdweller said:
Were they deployed ?

Or was there a ststorm which stopped them being used .., probably the latter as I said above it could be a criminal offence

I can find no link to any articles nor any pictures online depicting them

Perhaps you coiukd furnish the links ?
MSM conspiracy, surely. Just knowing that TB has the details in his personal files should be enough for anyone.
Surprisingly .. I spent more time than I should searching for these 4v4’s online or any mention of them .... but no not a single pic or word about them ..odd very odd

But there ARE plenty of pics of Blair out and about campaigning in his official car during the 2005 election campaign




Earthdweller

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Sunday 24th February 2019
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Here’s TB arriving at the Labour victory party in his Vote Labour Jaguar in 05



Here’s Blair arriving back at Downing Street having won the Election in his Vote Labour official car


turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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From Littlejohn's book once straplined 'Thirteen Years Of Labout Madness'.

Book said:
Blair (Met Sir Ian) did more than anyone to politicise policing. He thought he could run the Met like a branch of Haringey Town Hall. He repaid Labour's patronage by everything from lobbying hard for extended detention without trial to lending Tony Blair a police Range Rover emblazoned with 'Vote Labour' at the 2005 general election.
Now that there are three sources, one at the time in 2005 and two after the fact in 2008 and 2010 with all three showing that what I said happened did indeed happen, hopefully the next weak offerings will resort to the ad hom fallacy of shooting the messengers, confirming a total lack of evidence against what I posted.. Incoming...


Edited by turbobloke on Sunday 24th February 20:19

Earthdweller

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Sunday 24th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
smn159 said:
Earthdweller said:
Were they deployed ?

Or was there a ststorm which stopped them being used .., probably the latter as I said above it could be a criminal offence

I can find no link to any articles nor any pictures online depicting them

Perhaps you coiukd furnish the links ?
MSM conspiracy, surely. Just knowing that TB has the details in his personal files should be enough for anyone.
Both posts ^^ are nonsense, very weak efforts indeed. Not unexpected.

It happened as I described though iirc it wasn't covered heavily by the red rag Guardian or its broadcasting outlet the BBC.

If you folks can't find any articles on this you're not looking just wasting pixels on dreck.

"During the May election campaign in 2005, he (Met Sir Ian Blair) permitted police Range Rovers ferrying Tony Blair to carry 'Vote Labour' stickers"
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/ianbla...

"Shadow Home Secretary David Davis called for the slogans to be removed from the vehicles. He said: "It's essential that the police are impartial. If there are any Labour slogans on cars paid for out of the taxpayers' budget they should be removed immediately."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-345317/Po...

It's nothing to do with any/no additional cost to the Met as their vehicles are already publicly funded and that's why it's simply inappropriate as pointed out in the articles...the Range Rovers were/are for public service not partisan political service which is precisely what electioneering is..Politicised police - not new and not appropriate whatever the politics.
Pmsl

So 4v4’s resprayed and repainted in vote Labour livery becomes ..

Had a little yellow sticker in the window saying “Vote Labour” which was probably promptly removed

FFS

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Earthdweller said:
So 4v4’s resprayed and repainted in vote Labour livery becomes ..

Had a little yellow sticker in the window saying “Vote Labour” which was probably promptly removed
Thanks for confirming that what I said happened is what happened.

Three sources already confirmed it so you didn't need to but well done anyway.

Yes resprayed, and yes with Vote Labour slogans.

Your made-up fairy story about removing little stickers is awesome.

No doubt you have links for the story you claim rofl

Sore loser not much.

Earthdweller

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Sunday 24th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
Earthdweller said:
So 4v4’s resprayed and repainted in vote Labour livery becomes ..

Had a little yellow sticker in the window saying “Vote Labour” which was probably promptly removed
Thanks for confirming that what I said happened is what happened.

Three sources already confirmed it so you didn't need to but well done anyway.

Yes resprayed and yes with Vote Labour slogans.

Your made-up fairy story about removing little stickers is awesome. Sore loser not much.
Nowhere does it say in any of those articles the vehicles were resprayed into a Labour Livery

I’d suggest that due to the threat levels .. armoured vehicles already in service and in full Police livery were de-liveried to provide additional VIP coverage as Blair travelled Nationally and the standing covert armoured fleet was insufficient

The articles say “vote Labour” stickers in the window !

Once again .. show me a picture of these vote Labour Range Rovers ?



turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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hehe

After asking me for evidence and getting it this alternative of 'No Evidence' when justifying twaddle is impressive.

Do you reckon the drivers wore yellow vests wobble

dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
hehe

After asking me for evidence and getting it this alternative of 'No Evidence' when justifying twaddle is impressive.

Do you reckon the drivers wore yellow vests wobble
You are banging your head against a brick wall TB, some sheeple just can not accept the truth.

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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There must be plenty of photos of these 4x4 with VOTE LABOUR “emblazoned” on them? Or maybe they don’t exist because they don’t exist?

Earthdweller

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Monday 25th February 2019
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Dindoit said:
There must be plenty of photos of these 4x4 with VOTE LABOUR “emblazoned” on them? Or maybe they don’t exist because they don’t exist?
It’s all rather strange .. there are hundreds of photos online of Blair during the 2005 election campaign

Dozens of photos of him next to, or in, Official cars

Not one .. has any visible “Vote Labour” markings

If TB .. that’s turbo not Tony can show me a pic of one of these Vote Labour liveried Range Rovers I’ll accept it

But he hasn’t and I’m not holding my breath for him to do so

smile

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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dasigty said:
turbobloke said:
hehe

After asking me for evidence and getting it this alternative of 'No Evidence' when justifying twaddle is impressive.

Do you reckon the drivers wore yellow vests wobble
You are banging your head against a brick wall TB, some sheeple just can not accept the truth.
Thank goodness what I posted was shown to be accurate. Just think of the intemperate responses, wild stories with no evidence just irony, and desperate theories that would have emerged if it wasn't backed by three separate sources saying the same thing as my post.

So far we've had temporary little stickers (was that not a Postman Pat story?) and a unicorn theory - when both Scotland Yard and a Shadow Home Secretary are quoted on the events of 2005.

turbobloke

103,986 posts

261 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Scotland Yard said:
Following a risk assessment, it was decided that these vehicles were most appropriate for the Prime Minister and his police bodyguards during the General Election. There will be no additional costs to the Met.
Hardly the point, the entire scheme was inappropriate.

Article said:
The force also said that the Labour Party would pick up the cost of the changes to the vehicles and would return them in their original conditions after the General Election.
Scotland Yard describing events that did not take place while telling porkies shocker? PHers with chutzpah and rhetoric but no evidence against three published sources? Fairy stories trumping the Yard's version? Of course...desperate stuff is like that wobble
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Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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The police providing the UK Prime Minister with a vehicle isn't inappropriate. Having "vote Labour" EMBLAZONED on them is. So, photos?

Dindoit

1,645 posts

95 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
This from my files showing MSM coverage with comment from Scotland Yard and the (then) Shadow Home Secretary.

It's fascinating that these words don't appear to exist on the internet other than in your files.

edit - found it. Daily Mail. Imagine my surprise.

Edited by Dindoit on Monday 25th February 09:14

Earthdweller

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13,590 posts

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Monday 25th February 2019
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turbobloke said:
dasigty said:
turbobloke said:
hehe

After asking me for evidence and getting it this alternative of 'No Evidence' when justifying twaddle is impressive.

Do you reckon the drivers wore yellow vests wobble
You are banging your head against a brick wall TB, some sheeple just can not accept the truth.
Thank goodness what I posted was shown to be accurate. Just think of the intemperate responses, wild stories with no evidence just irony, and desperate theories that would have emerged if it wasn't backed by three separate sources saying the same thing as my post.

So far we've had temporary little stickers (was that not a Postman Pat story?) and a unicorn theory - when both Scotland Yard and a Shadow Home Secretary are quoted on the events of 2005.
Ok, I’m genuinely interested because in 2005 I was a Traffic Sgt in a major northern police force, having recently left the Met

Local forces provided the motorcycle escort, pilot and tail cars for the Met Security details

Vehicles for use by the principals would often travel independently from their intended users and be pre-positioned. On numerous occasions they were garaged at our secure unit. We also frequently borrowed vehicles from manufacturers to boost our capability

Having seen Blair, and others, frequently during the election campaign, and being involved in providing his security, I can honestly say I never saw ANY Vote Labour liveried vehicles nor any bearing any political affiliation at all

I’m speaking from my personal experience, you are quoting the Daily Wail ( note :don’t believe every thing you read in the paper)

Now if at some point vehicles had Vote Labour stickers on them, I’m sure they would very quickly have been removed .. but, I never saw any vehicles with them

But you are asserting that vehicles were resprayed into Vote Labour livery and used on the campaign trail

Well, as one who was actually involved in protecting Blair in that campaign I’m saying I never saw them

If you say they were .. then show us a picture of one of them during the campaign your ability to search the internet seems far better than mine

smile


Cold

15,249 posts

91 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Someone point out the link to the Yellow Vest protests, please. I'm struggling to make the connection.

Earthdweller

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Monday 25th February 2019
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Cold said:
Someone point out the link to the Yellow Vest protests, please. I'm struggling to make the connection.
Fair point, well made smile

smn159

12,683 posts

218 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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The Mash has the Yellow Vests covered - level 5

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/where-are-...


dasigty

587 posts

82 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Our wonderful boys in blue attacking yellow vest protest in London last week.

https://youtu.be/eYpho07sJ2A


They seem to have been taking lessons from their French counterpart in thuggery.

smn159

12,683 posts

218 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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dasigty said:
Our wonderful boys in blue attacking yellow vest protest in London last week.

https://youtu.be/eYpho07sJ2A


They seem to have been taking lessons from their French counterpart in thuggery.
Can you point out the thuggery by the police? I watched about half of that and just saw a load of idiots yelling abuse at the police, who seemed to be displaying remarkable restraint.

Didn't see any 'thuggish' attacks myself, so maybe you could point them out?