Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

[amgmcqueen]

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

Yeah, those two pictures are exactly equivalent

The bottom picture should have the EU flag not the French.

[poo at Paul's]

Was very surprised having visited France last week for the first time in 2 years what’s happened to the place!
Fuel price is eye watering compared to how it was few years back.
Lots of apathetic workers and staff in places from restaurants and hotels to even police / govt workers.

Tbh was quite glad to get back, and since we went straight to Stockport, that’s saying something.

[anonymous-user]

poo at Paul's said:

Lots of apathetic workers and staff in places from restaurants and hotels to even police / govt workers.

That's just France, without doubt the worst country i have ever visited for service. The only places that isnt the case is the small, family owned establishments, anything of any size larger than this the staff dont give a stuff, never have.

[WyrleyD]

Digga said:

Ridgemont said:

Reading the banners it is the rail unions by the look of it, who are mobilising right now.

A French fiend told me the other day that the rail unions are not merely complaining about rising the pension age from 57 (as reported by the BBC) but also about changes to the way the accrual of pensions is calculated.

There's going to be even more trouble coming when the Thiriez report on the Civil Service is released in January where rumours have it that he is proposing wholesale overhaul, it's almost certainly gong to cause huge ructions in the top tier of the civil service that comprises a "bloated" 20% of the total French workforce.

[FWIW]

jakesmith said:

I love it when that happens. Here’s another one- do they deliberately make the woman sound like a moron in this translation?

Spanish fresco restoration botched by amateur https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921

:lol: to be fair, who gives a st?

[Europa1]

Digga said:

A French fiend told me the other day that the rail unions are not merely complaining about rising the pension age from 57 (as reported by the BBC) but also about changes to the way the accrual of pensions is calculated.

Might I suggest asking a more well-adjusted Frenchman?

[FWIW]

Europa1 said:

Might I suggest asking a more well-adjusted Frenchman?

Haha 😂

[jakesmith]

FWIW said:

jakesmith said:

I love it when that happens. Here’s another one- do they deliberately make the woman sound like a moron in this translation?

Spanish fresco restoration botched by amateur https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921

:lol: to be fair, who gives a st?

It cheers my heart that some people putting this together had a sneaky laugh that went out on air that subtly ridicules that lady and only a small number of viewers would pick up on it

[jakesmith]

Back on yellow vests, it’s compulsory to have them in your car in France. I saw a number of cars with the yellow vests on the dash over our weeks hols and assumed it was to show police u had them onboard to avoid being stopped for a check.

Only on the last day from Paris home when the protests started did I realise I had been unwittingly showing solidarity with the Gillette Jaune movement, oops!!

[bloomen]

jakesmith said:

Back on yellow vests, it’s compulsory to have them in your car in France. I saw a number of cars with the yellow vests on the dash over our weeks hols and assumed it was to show police u had them onboard to avoid being stopped for a check.

Only on the last day from Paris home when the protests started did I realise I had been unwittingly showing solidarity with the Gillette Jaune movement, oops!!

It's less solidarity, more about not having your car smashed up by them.

[smn159]

amgmcqueen said:

smn159 said:

Vanden Saab said:

Yeah, those two pictures are exactly equivalent

The bottom picture should have the EU flag not the French.

Only if you're a complete idiot with no grasp of history

[tangerine_sedge]

This is an interesting movement, in that it is being used by various groups to push their own agenda. See the anti-EU spin put on the demonstrations by people here, yet at it's root it's about workers rights, pay and austerity.

This feels a lot like the 1980's miners strike. A government not willing to be pushed around by the unions and an unpopular leader who seems to have support for the tough approach from the public at the polls. This seems to be straight from the Thatcher playbook, and I would expect support for this approach from the right leaning masses here, yet the anti-EU agenda skews the narrative to be the plucky working man against the brutal government. This place never fails to confuse me.

[bitchstewie]

Vanden Saab said:

That's utterly crass.

What are you thinking

[Vanden Saab]

bhstewie said:

Vanden Saab said:

That's utterly crass.

What are you thinking

I made no comment I just posted the picture. The reactions are interesting though. Why do you think the picture is crass?

[B'stard Child]

Vanden Saab said:

bhstewie said:

Vanden Saab said:

That's utterly crass.

What are you thinking

I made no comment I just posted the picture. The reactions are interesting though. Why do you think the picture is crass?

His sense of humor has long since been bypassed

[FWIW]

tangerine_sedge said:

This is an interesting movement, in that it is being used by various groups to push their own agenda. See the anti-EU spin put on the demonstrations by people here, yet at it's root it's about workers rights, pay and austerity.

This feels a lot like the 1980's miners strike. A government not willing to be pushed around by the unions and an unpopular leader who seems to have support for the tough approach from the public at the polls. This seems to be straight from the Thatcher playbook, and I would expect support for this approach from the right leaning masses here, yet the anti-EU agenda skews the narrative to be the plucky working man against the brutal government. This place never fails to confuse me.

Maybe I’m missing your point, but (for me at least) the GJ are not anti Eu heroes, more an example of Eu failures...

[bitchstewie]

B'stard Child said:

His sense of humor has long since been bypassed

We're really comparing Nazi's marching up the Champs-Élysées to the French Police?

My sense of humour is fine but if there's something funny there and I'm missing a "funny joke" it must be a very subtle one.

[Earthdweller]

bhstewie said:

B'stard Child said:

His sense of humor has long since been bypassed

We're really comparing Nazi's marching up the Champs-Élysées to the French Police?

My sense of humour is fine but if there's something funny there and I'm missing a "funny joke" it must be a very subtle one.

I don’t find it funny at all.

It’s a very striking pair of images and a rather really sad

In 1940 the French people were under the control of an occupying Army, supported by the French Government of the day

The pictures allude to the French people being under the control of a paramilitary force today in 2019, the difference being they are directed by the French Government

Whilst I’m in no way comparing the Nazi’s to the CRS or Gendarmes

France is today, in many ways, a country under paramilitary control, much as it was in 1940

A divided country with a deeply unpopular Govt trying to enforce its rule on a populace that is resisting

France is without doubt a country in crisis with deep political, social and economic problems and the Govt has taken to the jackboot to control it

The pictures are sobering stark and thought provoking

They are not good images

[PRTVR]

Earthdweller said:

bhstewie said:

B'stard Child said:

His sense of humor has long since been bypassed

We're really comparing Nazi's marching up the Champs-Élysées to the French Police?

My sense of humour is fine but if there's something funny there and I'm missing a "funny joke" it must be a very subtle one.

I don’t find it funny at all.

It’s a very striking pair of images and a rather really sad

In 1940 the French people were under the control of an occupying Army, supported by the French Government of the day

The pictures allude to the French people being under the control of a paramilitary force today in 2019, the difference being they are directed by the French Government

Whilst I’m in no way comparing the Nazi’s to the CRS or Gendarmes

France is today, in many ways, a country under paramilitary control, much as it was in 1940

A divided country with a deeply unpopular Govt trying to enforce its rule on a populace that is resisting

France is without doubt a country in crisis with deep political, social and economic problems and the Govt has taken to the jackboot to control it

The pictures are sobering stark and thought provoking

They are not good images

That's exactly how I feel the pictures portrayed, when you have the police fighting the populace, striking images of them fighting firemen is not a good look for a democracy.

[markjmd]

Earthdweller said:

bhstewie said:

B'stard Child said:

His sense of humor has long since been bypassed

We're really comparing Nazi's marching up the Champs-Élysées to the French Police?

My sense of humour is fine but if there's something funny there and I'm missing a "funny joke" it must be a very subtle one.

I don’t find it funny at all.

It’s a very striking pair of images and a rather really sad

In 1940 the French people were under the control of an occupying Army, supported by the French Government of the day

The pictures allude to the French people being under the control of a paramilitary force today in 2019, the difference being they are directed by the French Government

Whilst I’m in no way comparing the Nazi’s to the CRS or Gendarmes

France is today, in many ways, a country under paramilitary control, much as it was in 1940

A divided country with a deeply unpopular Govt trying to enforce its rule on a populace that is resisting

France is without doubt a country in crisis with deep political, social and economic problems and the Govt has taken to the jackboot to control it

The pictures are sobering stark and thought provoking

They are not good images

You do realize that by making the kind of absurd equivalence that you are here, you're effectively trivializing the sufferring of all European populations who endured Nazi occupation in WWII, not only that of France, and making a mockery of those who genuinely risked their lives (and in many cases gave them up) resisting it into the bargain, right? Or was the nonsense you just spouted merely intended as a jolly good wheeze?