Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

Yellow vests - fuel protest day of action in France

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louiechevy

645 posts

194 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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https://youtu.be/qQl2q6PVd0w
Looks a bit more riotous here!

Derek Smith

45,747 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Wobbegong said:
La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).

The police and security numbers are something else.
My friend is in the Gendarmerie. He usually doesn’t worry about protests as it’s usually a minority of crusties stirring up trouble and demanding the ridiculous or ‘raising awareness’. This time it’s the normal French people who’ve had enough of government removing their cash and freedoms bit by bit.

Smack a few crusties about, no one usually cares apart from other crusties. Start battering people that others can relate to, and you have the potential to open a whole tanker of worms.
From reports, the numbers of demonstrators are down on last weekend, although it's early at the moment. Not aware of any tanks on the streets. The normal armoured vehicles are in evidence, but they would be.

As stated, police numbers are absolutely staggering.


andy_s

19,409 posts

260 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Wobbegong said:
La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).

The police and security numbers are something else.
My friend is in the Gendarmerie. He usually doesn’t worry about protests as it’s usually a minority of crusties stirring up trouble and demanding the ridiculous or ‘raising awareness’. This time it’s the normal French people who’ve had enough of government removing their cash and freedoms bit by bit.

Smack a few crusties about, no one usually cares apart from other crusties. Start battering people that others can relate to, and you have the potential to open a whole tanker of worms.
This is the fourth weekend. The original 'disruptive' yet relatively peaceful idea has, unsurprisingly, been hijacked by more radical elements, similarly the list of complaints has grown from 20ppLt tax to pretty much anything and everything Macron has done plus the usual ills of society.

It's not been on the front page all morning because not much was happening. Again, unsurprisingly the 300 arrests have mostly been as police check people coming into the flashpoint areas for projectiles, ID and probably a bit of kicking off.

Unsurprisingly police tactics and preparations are not only better but larger in scale and this will mean there will be more arrests and more violence than would usually be undertaken.

I don't think we're at 1968 levels nor even 2005 levels, but of course anything can happen.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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It always takes time to get going, it is Lunch time and it is France.

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

170 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
It always takes time to get going, it is Lunch time and it is France.
Plus allow an hour for those stale croissants to go down

turbobloke

104,070 posts

261 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).
That swerve is transparent; was it not the content rather than positioning that was the main subject of comments?

I read the BBC site recently and at that time the riots were top of the bill but there was no mention of e.g. the climate fairytales origin of Macron's now abandoned policy daftness.

Articles get updates, you can check to see if the coverage has improved if you like.

Derek Smith

45,747 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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andy_s said:
This is the fourth weekend. The original 'disruptive' yet relatively peaceful idea has, unsurprisingly, been hijacked by more radical elements, similarly the list of complaints has grown from 20ppLt tax to pretty much anything and everything Macron has done plus the usual ills of society.

It's not been on the front page all morning because not much was happening. Again, unsurprisingly the 300 arrests have mostly been as police check people coming into the flashpoint areas for projectiles, ID and probably a bit of kicking off.

Unsurprisingly police tactics and preparations are not only better but larger in scale and this will mean there will be more arrests and more violence than would usually be undertaken.

I don't think we're at 1968 levels nor even 2005 levels, but of course anything can happen.
The '68 riots were something else.

There's nothing succeeds in policing demonstrations than flooding the area with bodies.

Hereward

4,195 posts

231 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Wobbegong said:
Kicking off in France again. Good luck to the protesters who are fighting to keep their quality of life.
Do you condone violent/destructive protest?

Wobbegong

15,077 posts

170 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Hereward said:
Wobbegong said:
Kicking off in France again. Good luck to the protesters who are fighting to keep their quality of life.
Do you condone violent/destructive protest?
Depends on the reason.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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turbobloke said:
La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).
That swerve is transparent
In your view, but I don't think you're the poster boy for a balanced judgement on the BBC.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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You do not need to have an opinion on the subject to see the swerve however, just eyes.

andy_s

19,409 posts

260 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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La Liga said:
turbobloke said:
La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).
That swerve is transparent
In your view, but I don't think you're the poster boy for a balanced judgement on the BBC.
Poster person La Liga, poster person, this is the beeb doncha knar.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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The Dangerous Elk said:
You do not need to have an opinion on the subject to see the swerve however, just eyes.
Or alternatively, perhaps interpret what you see according to your own biases.



turbobloke

104,070 posts

261 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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andy_s said:
La Liga said:
turbobloke said:
La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).
That swerve is transparent
In your view, but I don't think you're the poster boy for a balanced judgement on the BBC.
Poster person La Liga, poster person, this is the beeb doncha knar.
Note the personal attack allied to a total lack of evidence on the subjkect matter (BBC coverage), par for the course in this context.

As lightweight and unconvincing as it gets - 'all' La Liga had to do was avoid personal angles (ho ho ho) and provide on-topic evidence (none available) oh dear never mind.

Balmoral

40,954 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Whenever I see a duck, my cognitive bias is confirmed.

The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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La Liga said:
r alternatively, perhaps interpret what you see according to your own biases.
Perhaps believe what you see as a default ?

Derek Smith

45,747 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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La Liga said:
Predictable BBC bash. Second down for me on latest and most read (after the NZ murder).
It's all done by algorithms. More clicks, higher placing is one of the rules. Tin hat brigade again.


Derek Smith

45,747 posts

249 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Even the Russian propaganda outlet on YouTube is showing nothing going on.

The Sun YT shows shoppers coming away due to the tear gas.

Noting to see at the moment. If it is going to come, it will come later on.


The Dangerous Elk

4,642 posts

78 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Not on Live 24 it is not.

Paris is in riot and the BBC now have repeats of Brexit/Leave protesters talking outside HoC

Laughable that people are so blinkered.

Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Saturday 8th December 14:43

PositronicRay

27,060 posts

184 months

Saturday 8th December 2018
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Looking @ the RT vid bored reporters seem to outnumbering everyone else.