Guy Martin - Charged over fake driving licence
Discussion
Lord Marylebone said:
I don’t think he’s having any sort of a go at you, but he’s saying that Guy Martin’s real life personality is quite obnoxious, and that he doesn’t have any time for people ‘like you’ meaning most people.
He has a ‘real life’ reputation of being obnoxious, irritable, difficult, rude, etc
He was instrumental in numerous things such as getting spectators banned from certain areas at the TT because he didn’t like having to mix and speak to the public.
All typical Asperger traits.He has a ‘real life’ reputation of being obnoxious, irritable, difficult, rude, etc
He was instrumental in numerous things such as getting spectators banned from certain areas at the TT because he didn’t like having to mix and speak to the public.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 11:30
A few years ago I was taking part in a 24hr cycle race, this was primarily for kids and with school and scouts teams taking part.
Guy was there with his mate as "guest stars" although it was supposed to be low key to keep the press away, they turned up late which was an upset for a lot of kids who idolised him, it became worse when Guy just ignored them all, they wanted to talk to him and get his signature but he just blanked them all. At the time my impression of him was that he was an egotistical git, in light of what has been reported about him, maybe he can't help it.
Guy was there with his mate as "guest stars" although it was supposed to be low key to keep the press away, they turned up late which was an upset for a lot of kids who idolised him, it became worse when Guy just ignored them all, they wanted to talk to him and get his signature but he just blanked them all. At the time my impression of him was that he was an egotistical git, in light of what has been reported about him, maybe he can't help it.
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how many on here would be jumping to his defence if he was just some scruffy mot/garage worker and wasnt famous.
Me for one, same as supporting the chap that hacked into the Pentagon computersWith that in mind, I’m wondering why you don’t think either of them should be punished?
Edited to add: I’m going to guess wildly that you have a child or relative with Aspergers and therefore don’t think anyone with Aspergers should be held criminally accountable for their actions.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 18:52
As for someone hacking into the Pentagon and leaving this message "Your security is crap", speaks for itself
But, let’s just focus on the Gary McKinnon case then.
You analogy suggests that if your house gets burgled because you have anything less than the worlds best lock, then it’s your own fault and the burglars have done nothing wrong.
I think we can all agree that is quite bizarre logic, and also victim blaming.
Gary McKinnon knew fine well that what he was doing was incredibly serious and carried huge penalties, but carried on doing it for months, despite being ‘almost caught’ a couple of times.
I have no idea you are defending him.
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how many on here would be jumping to his defence if he was just some scruffy mot/garage worker and wasnt famous.
Me for one, same as supporting the chap that hacked into the Pentagon computersWith that in mind, I’m wondering why you don’t think either of them should be punished?
Edited to add: I’m going to guess wildly that you have a child or relative with Aspergers and therefore don’t think anyone with Aspergers should be held criminally accountable for their actions.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 18:52
As for someone hacking into the Pentagon and leaving this message "Your security is crap", speaks for itself
But, let’s just focus on the Gary McKinnon case then.
You analogy suggests that if your house gets burgled because you have anything less than the worlds best lock, then it’s your own fault and the burglars have done nothing wrong.
I think we can all agree that is quite bizarre logic, and also victim blaming.
Gary McKinnon knew fine well that what he was doing was incredibly serious and carried huge penalties, but carried on doing it for months, despite being ‘almost caught’ a couple of times.
I have no idea you are defending him.
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
“It’s only the internet so not a real crime” is no excuse.
Exige77 said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how many on here would be jumping to his defence if he was just some scruffy mot/garage worker and wasnt famous.
Me for one, same as supporting the chap that hacked into the Pentagon computersWith that in mind, I’m wondering why you don’t think either of them should be punished?
Edited to add: I’m going to guess wildly that you have a child or relative with Aspergers and therefore don’t think anyone with Aspergers should be held criminally accountable for their actions.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 18:52
As for someone hacking into the Pentagon and leaving this message "Your security is crap", speaks for itself
But, let’s just focus on the Gary McKinnon case then.
You analogy suggests that if your house gets burgled because you have anything less than the worlds best lock, then it’s your own fault and the burglars have done nothing wrong.
I think we can all agree that is quite bizarre logic, and also victim blaming.
Gary McKinnon knew fine well that what he was doing was incredibly serious and carried huge penalties, but carried on doing it for months, despite being ‘almost caught’ a couple of times.
I have no idea you are defending him.
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
“It’s only the internet so not a real crime” is no excuse.
Penelope Stopit said:
Exige77 said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how many on here would be jumping to his defence if he was just some scruffy mot/garage worker and wasnt famous.
Me for one, same as supporting the chap that hacked into the Pentagon computersWith that in mind, I’m wondering why you don’t think either of them should be punished?
Edited to add: I’m going to guess wildly that you have a child or relative with Aspergers and therefore don’t think anyone with Aspergers should be held criminally accountable for their actions.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 18:52
As for someone hacking into the Pentagon and leaving this message "Your security is crap", speaks for itself
But, let’s just focus on the Gary McKinnon case then.
You analogy suggests that if your house gets burgled because you have anything less than the worlds best lock, then it’s your own fault and the burglars have done nothing wrong.
I think we can all agree that is quite bizarre logic, and also victim blaming.
Gary McKinnon knew fine well that what he was doing was incredibly serious and carried huge penalties, but carried on doing it for months, despite being ‘almost caught’ a couple of times.
I have no idea you are defending him.
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
“It’s only the internet so not a real crime” is no excuse.
Penelope Stopit said:
I'm not defending him
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
You could apply that logic to any crime.Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
People commit serious crimes every day thinking they will get away with it. Drink driving, murder, stabbing, rape, burglary, fraud.
Some murderers and burglars leave messages at the scene of their crimes as well.
Maybe they just need help rather than prison.
Penelope Stopit said:
Exige77 said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
Lord Marylebone said:
Penelope Stopit said:
KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how many on here would be jumping to his defence if he was just some scruffy mot/garage worker and wasnt famous.
Me for one, same as supporting the chap that hacked into the Pentagon computersWith that in mind, I’m wondering why you don’t think either of them should be punished?
Edited to add: I’m going to guess wildly that you have a child or relative with Aspergers and therefore don’t think anyone with Aspergers should be held criminally accountable for their actions.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Friday 27th December 18:52
As for someone hacking into the Pentagon and leaving this message "Your security is crap", speaks for itself
But, let’s just focus on the Gary McKinnon case then.
You analogy suggests that if your house gets burgled because you have anything less than the worlds best lock, then it’s your own fault and the burglars have done nothing wrong.
I think we can all agree that is quite bizarre logic, and also victim blaming.
Gary McKinnon knew fine well that what he was doing was incredibly serious and carried huge penalties, but carried on doing it for months, despite being ‘almost caught’ a couple of times.
I have no idea you are defending him.
Anyone that thinks they can hack into the Pentagon, leave a message and get away with it must surely need help rather than prison
“It’s only the internet so not a real crime” is no excuse.
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