Theresa May (Vol.2)
Discussion
dxg said:
Well, she does now have 12 months without further challenge...
Only from her own party. A successful vote of no confidence in the Government would still see her out because they couldn't form an alternative and win a second vote with her still there.So, there's now all the opposition parties, plus the DUP who want her gone, plus 117 pissed off Tories. And the last chance the DUP and Tories have for 12 months is to back any no confidence vote called by Labour and then hope they can get an alternative together to take to Betty.
paulrockliffe said:
JPJPJP said:
How long before opposition lays down motion of no confidence in government? Can they hold back until 21 jan?
Honestly? 30th of March would be my guess. Corbyn isn't touching Brexit with a bargepole when he can stroll into No 10 without having to lift a finger if he just shows a little patience.looking at a few names methinks there w/o be a significant number of Tory mps either looking at either deselection or seat loss come the nect election.......a lot are most certainly NOT following the will of their constituents and this may very well lead to labour, sorry, momentum, having a clean sweep....I'm thinking it's time for the Tories to suffer a burnt earth election...
Greg66 said:
They f
ked it. They weren’t even close. And they’ve handed her another year, bulletproof from attack.
This is such rubbish, she doesn't have 12 months at all, she has until Corbyn puts his motion down, the Parliamentary numbers are now clear on that.ked it. They weren’t even close. And they’ve handed her another year, bulletproof from attack. You will see that this will have a significant effect, she will not just chalk it up as another one of her spectacular victories.
FYI, Thatcher got 204 votes and resigned.
Henners said:
So c40 less MPs could have voted for her and she’d still be in the job.
more than half seems a little low for this type of thing.
A simple majority is not enough. A PM needs a substantial majority to stay in power. If she'd only been able to manage 40 fewer votes, she'd have to go.more than half seems a little low for this type of thing.
voyds9 said:
So No Deal?
By default because anything else unlikely to be agreed upon by enough MP's
You might get a second referendum, or a revocation of article 50 too. What's almost certainly clear is that a "deal deal" is unlikely - the one we have is very unlikely to make it through, and there is not enough time to do a new one. By default because anything else unlikely to be agreed upon by enough MP's
Variomatic said:
Only from her own party. A successful vote of no confidence in the Government would still see her out because they couldn't form an alternative and win a second vote with her still there.
So, there's now all the opposition parties, plus the DUP who want her gone, plus 117 pissed off Tories. And the last chance the DUP and Tories have for 12 months is to back any no confidence vote called by Labour and then hope they can get an alternative together to take to Betty.
No this is the wrong analysis. There may be 117 Tory MPs who want May removed, but there are 0 Tory MPs who want Corbyn in. Same goes for the DUP. So if Labour table a no confidence motion they still won't have the numbers to win it.So, there's now all the opposition parties, plus the DUP who want her gone, plus 117 pissed off Tories. And the last chance the DUP and Tories have for 12 months is to back any no confidence vote called by Labour and then hope they can get an alternative together to take to Betty.
Nothing's changed since the Major years. A large minority of the parliamentary party remain a bunch of EU obsessed tts. For decades they've failed to hijack the party line. If they genuinely had the courage of their convictions they'd have pissed off years ago and no doubt taken a larger percentage of the grassroots with them. The door is still there.
These incompetents have just made Remain substantially more likely. They've undermined May reducing the chances of her getting any further concessions from the EU yet further. The govt are not going to allow a disorderly exit from the EU and there's bugger all chance of passing the current deal, so the chance of delaying exit has increased substantially.
ts. For decades they've failed to hijack the party line. If they genuinely had the courage of their convictions they'd have pissed off years ago and no doubt taken a larger percentage of the grassroots with them. The door is still there.These incompetents have just made Remain substantially more likely. They've undermined May reducing the chances of her getting any further concessions from the EU yet further. The govt are not going to allow a disorderly exit from the EU and there's bugger all chance of passing the current deal, so the chance of delaying exit has increased substantially.
johnxjsc1985 said:
Corbyn wont get any where near number 10 I can give you 17.4 million reasons why added to which approx. 90 Labours MP's have gone against their constituents wishes.
Ha ha, he's nailed on as things stand. Brexit voters can see he's still a brexiteer and is probably the best chance we have now of leaving properly, so I wouldn't count on the 17.4m riding to Mays's rescue. paulrockliffe said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
Corbyn wont get any where near number 10 I can give you 17.4 million reasons why added to which approx. 90 Labours MP's have gone against their constituents wishes.
Ha ha, he's nailed on as things stand. Brexit voters can see he's still a brexiteer and is probably the best chance we have now of leaving properly, so I wouldn't count on the 17.4m riding to Mays's rescue. 
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