Theresa May (Vol.2)

[bitchstewie]

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I think they're simply highlighting how ridiculous he looks on that particular issue (the vote).

It's nothing to do with him being a "actual Tory Brexiteer" and simply do with him looking like a massive hypocrite and a sore loser.

[Piha]

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I thought I'd never ever admit to this but I'm impressed with the daily wails new clear and honest approach to politicians and politics.........

[don'tbesilly]

Piha said:

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I thought I'd never ever admit to this but I'm impressed with the daily wails new clear and honest approach to politicians and politics.........

.................... ........................

[Piha]

don'tbesilly said:

Piha said:

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I thought I'd never ever admit to this but I'm impressed with the daily wails new clear and honest approach to politicians and politics.........

.................... ........................

I just had a quick look at some of the (comedy) wail comments. I guess the readership hasn't changed as much as the editorial has.

[don'tbesilly]

Piha said:

don'tbesilly said:

Piha said:

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I thought I'd never ever admit to this but I'm impressed with the daily wails new clear and honest approach to politicians and politics.........

.................... ........................

I just had a quick look at some of the (comedy) wail comments. I guess the readership hasn't changed as much as the editorial has.

You did?
Why don't you regale us with some of the funniest?

Most like it apparently for the so called 'side bar of shame', what's your verdict?

[Jonesy23]

'If in doubt, return to arguments that weren't even relevant the first time around two years ago'

In any case the NHS did get the extra money pissed away into the bottomless pit in the end didn't it? Stupid Theresa did it as one of her irrational knee-jerk gestures.

[RichB]

Jonesy23 said:

...In any case the NHS did get the extra money pissed away into the bottomless pit ...

Indeed but just imagine it under Brother Corbyn! I even read a day ago that they're still buying fax machines! What a shambles the NHS is

[Balmoral]

NHS has had more than double the amount on the bus extra as it happens, they should have spun it as because of brexit, would have been amusing.

[anonymous-user]

Piha said:

JagLover said:

bhstewie said:

I like this assessment of Mogg and his reaction to the vote https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6494273...

Of course you do

The DM continuing its hatchet jobs on any actual Tory Brexiteers following the change in editor.

I thought I'd never ever admit to this but I'm impressed with the daily wails new clear and honest approach to politicians and politics.........

It’s a actually a reasonably well written and insightful piece. Has the daily mail recently got some journalists in or has it always been like that?

I see a Mogg fan above suggesting it’s a new editor? Is that the case?

[JagLover]

bhstewie said:

I think they're simply highlighting how ridiculous he looks on that particular issue (the vote).

It's nothing to do with him being a "actual Tory Brexiteer" and simply do with him looking like a massive hypocrite and a sore loser.

As anyone who follows politics knows a confidence vote is very different as if a significant minority aren't happy with the leader it can make governing difficult.

A number of past Tory leaders have stepped down after receiving more votes than May got on Tuesday.

So no it is not hypocritical and Mogg expressed what needed to be said, in that the ERG are not reconciled to this leader or this policy.

[JagLover]

El stovey said:

I see a Mogg fan above suggesting it’s a new editor? Is that the case?

The Daily Mail's editor was replaced with a Remainer around the time that May's chequers plan was unveiled.

[johnxjsc1985]

JagLover said:

As anyone who follows politics knows a confidence vote is very different as if a significant minority aren't happy with the leader it can make governing difficult.

A number of past Tory leaders have stepped down after receiving more votes than May got on Tuesday.

So no it is not hypocritical and Mogg expressed what needed to be said, in that the ERG are not reconciled to this leader or this policy.

Even noticed some political commentators saying similar stuff and I just thought are they being serious or just taking the piss.

[number 46]

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

[Roboraver]

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

WTO is a pile of *rap, do not try and dress it up as anything else.

[powerstroke]

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

I won't put myself though it anymore , channel 4 ,the BBC news R4 etc , at least on talk radio and LBC you get a mix of views
mind they had the war criminal on this afternoon .... oh well onwards and upwards ...

[powerstroke]

Roboraver said:

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

WTO is a pile of *rap, do not try and dress it up as anything else.

Is that what your teacher says ,.... ask her how come it works just fine for most of non EU countries and EU countries trading with ROW ...

[stongle]

JagLover said:

As anyone who follows politics knows a confidence vote is very different as if a significant minority aren't happy with the leader it can make governing difficult.

A number of past Tory leaders have stepped down after receiving more votes than May got on Tuesday.

So no it is not hypocritical and Mogg expressed what needed to be said, in that the ERG are not reconciled to this leader or this policy.

Perhaps true, but the opposite can be said. There is no unity candidate and the party is divided on an issue that no person can unite. There is clearly a parliamentry majority in favour of no or soft BREXIT. The deal on offer is the only deal (so no amount of Corbyn white noise makes any difference and probably why they cant decide to go for the no confidence vote). The deal as is largely history, in the HoC, so unless they test the nations resolve on remain, deal or no deal; its a total political impasse.

The problem with a no deal BREXIT, is not that it would be that economically bad; but whomever governs would have to make political decisions or change Tory / Labour dogma; to prevent an economic collapse. The Tories would have to reverse austerity and do fiscal drop; and unless labour has been at the bong water (which is the biggest risk); cant really do irresponsible give aways AND stop capital flight simultaneously.

Either party looses control of economic agenda and has to respond to both domestic AND global pressures.

Buying time is a much better strategy right now. If Italy sh*ts its pants or defies EU budget rules, we could stay in and do whatever we want anyway. If we screw over the EC enough theyd PAY us to go! Being all English and cricket about everthing has ruined us big time.

[Einion Yrth]

powerstroke said:

Roboraver said:

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

WTO is a pile of *rap, do not try and dress it up as anything else.

Is that what your teacher says ,.... ask her how come it works just fine for most of non EU countries and EU countries trading with ROW ...

It works fine for the UK currently in about 60% of our trade. That they've made "normal trade with the rest of the world" equate with "certain imminent death" in the minds of the hard of thinking, is impressive, but deeply disturbing.

[ou sont les biscuits]

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

Well later in the programme, Gerard Lyons defending a no deal/WTO scenario, came across as completely incredible. On the other side of the argument the woman from the CBI landed a lot of good punches.

[johnxjsc1985]

number 46 said:

Project fear V2 piece on Channel 4 News at the moment. Irritating economics woman suggesting all our laws will cease to exists on March 30th !!!!!!

Did she mention at what time the asteroid would hit