Theresa May (Vol.2)

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don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
Presumably this is assuming old people are all leavers (and I appreciate the stats show this)?

It definitely wont be that clear cut.
It was part of the 'last rites' ceremony.

They were asked just before passing how they voted in the referendum, struggled to answer they voted leave, no answer they voted leave, passed before the 'last rites' were finished they voted leave, died in their sleep they voted leave.

Anyone over the age of 60 who has passed since 2016 voted leave, it's obvious.

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
p1stonhead said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
Presumably this is assuming old people are all leavers (and I appreciate the stats show this)?

It definitely wont be that clear cut.
It was part of the 'last rites' ceremony.

They were asked just before passing how they voted in the referendum, struggled to answer they voted leave, no answer they voted leave, passed before the 'last rites' were finished they voted leave, died in their sleep they voted leave.

Anyone over the age of 60 who has passed since 2016 voted leave, it's obvious.
Clearly brexit/leave campaigners on here will always discredit any form of statistical analysis by a company that doesn't suit their view of life. i wonder when books will be burnt and universities closed down next???

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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kurt535 said:
Clearly brexit/leave campaigners on here will always discredit any form of statistical analysis by a company that doesn't suit their view of life. i wonder when books will be burnt and universities closed down next???
That was more accurate when I misread it as


Clearly brexit/remain campaigners on here will always discredit any form of statistical analysis by a company that doesn't suit their view of life

768

13,710 posts

97 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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p1stonhead said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
Presumably this is assuming old people are all leavers (and I appreciate the stats show this)?

It definitely wont be that clear cut.
It also assumes no one in the middle has grown up a bit.

don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
Common occurrence Kurt, ask for a citation none forthcoming, see "Big Pharma company in Surrey". laugh

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
Common occurrence Kurt, ask for a citation none forthcoming, see "Big Pharma company in Surrey". laugh
Good post.

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
Common occurrence Kurt, ask for a citation none forthcoming, see "Big Pharma company in Surrey". laugh
Troll alert.

In the meantime, Im back to work.

ill leave you to hiss fit and cuss a country that no longer wishes to leave. Perhaps you could leave though?

Balmoral

40,943 posts

249 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Looking at the office for National statistics it looks like about 560,000 people die in the UK each year. I don't think there are any statistics for those deaths listed by political affiliation or voting record.

don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
Common occurrence Kurt, ask for a citation none forthcoming, see "Big Pharma company in Surrey". laugh
Troll alert.

In the meantime, Im back to work.

ill leave you to hiss fit and cuss a country that no longer wishes to leave. Perhaps you could leave though?
Short on time apparently, still got time to come back and not answer the question asked repeatedly, one can only speculate as to why, easily answered it was a lie

Prove me wrong?

alfie2244

11,292 posts

189 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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don'tbesilly said:
Short on time apparently, still got time to come back and not answer the question asked repeatedly, one can only speculate as to why, easily answered it was a lie

Prove me wrong?
TBH I think even the Remainers on here have worked out what a fantasist he is.............hence he doesn't seem to get much support from them AFAICS.

bitchstewie

51,449 posts

211 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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kurt535 said:
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
I don't know how much you can read into a few people at the extreme end of things phoning into a radio station.

Personally protest all you like within the law, step outside it and let the law deal with it.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Balmoral said:
Looking at the office for National statistics it looks like about 560,000 people die in the UK each year. I don't think there are any statistics for those deaths listed by political affiliation or voting record.
With the skew towards Leave amongst older people, and their recognised habit of dying, I'd guess at the following:

560k dead per year
200k didn't vote
140k of them voted Remain
220k of them voted Leave.

So in the three years since the vote, that's 660k off the Leave vote, and 420k off the Remain vote, a nett difference of 240,000.

So, not a lot.

Adopting similar but opposite figures for the incoming youth (which is generous, because they can't be arsed to vote) and you've a swing to Remain of 480,000. So nowhere near enough to change the result in isolation.

But...

Over those three years every single person who voted (but didn't die) has moved three years further out of the Remain 'heartland' and three years closer to the Leave 'heartland'. How many of those tens of millions of people have crossed their own personal dotted line during those three years?

A: Some.





don'tbesilly

13,939 posts

164 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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bhstewie said:
kurt535 said:
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
I don't know how much you can read into a few people at the extreme end of things phoning into a radio station.

Personally protest all you like within the law, step outside it and let the law deal with it.
Kurt seems to think Chris from Colchester represents a significant number of leave voters.

Kurt also seems to think a million people who have passed away since 2016 voted Leave based on statistical analysis by an unnamed company, and without providing a link to the study.

How does any company come up with such statistics?

I think many can make their own minds up about Kurt wink


bitchstewie

51,449 posts

211 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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I'm sure there will be some, but I'd expect there to be some trouble from some extremes whatever happens.

Main thing is people protest within the law and if not it's nipped in the bud.

JagLover

42,464 posts

236 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
With the skew towards Leave amongst older people, and their recognised habit of dying, I'd guess at the following:

560k dead per year
200k didn't vote
140k of them voted Remain
220k of them voted Leave.

So in the three years since the vote, that's 660k off the Leave vote, and 420k off the Remain vote, a nett difference of 240,000.

So, not a lot.

Adopting similar but opposite figures for the incoming youth (which is generous, because they can't be arsed to vote) and you've a swing to Remain of 480,000. So nowhere near enough to change the result in isolation.

But...

Over those three years every single person who voted (but didn't die) has moved three years further out of the Remain 'heartland' and three years closer to the Leave 'heartland'. How many of those tens of millions of people have crossed their own personal dotted line during those three years?

A: Some.
Unless of course dying is a judgement from the Lord for voting to leave the divine EU smile

More seriously I have seen this statistic trotted out a lot over the past few weeks, but with no real statistical analysis behind it. Many of those who have died would have been in care homes in June 2016 where they are unlikely to have a particularly high turnout.

NoNeed

15,137 posts

201 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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bhstewie said:
I'm sure there will be some, but I'd expect there to be some trouble from some extremes whatever happens.

Main thing is people protest within the law and if not it's nipped in the bud.
this is the reason I think the referendum was stupid, as when you create winners you also create losers.

It would have been better to have some sort of survey attached to the census to guage opinion the decide what to do from that.

kurt535

3,559 posts

118 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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alfie2244 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
don'tbesilly said:
kurt535 said:
Interesting stat today on radio: 1m leave voters have left the planet in the last 2 years and 1m younger generation are now eligible to vote

I can see why brexit voters always get angry and fundamentally scared at May calling a 2nd referendum.

Also, why do brexit voters always threaten violence if the vote is overturned???
The examples of such are where?
Ive heard it a few times on tv and radio now, including this morning; this one was sent to me by a Brit pal in norway watching events. there is another more recent one in the last few days but Im short of time to hunt his email link out at the moment.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1031831/Brexit-n...
Common occurrence Kurt, ask for a citation none forthcoming, see "Big Pharma company in Surrey". laugh
Good post.
You couple of doddery mugs! He sent me two links.....one was added.







p1stonhead

25,579 posts

168 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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NoNeed said:
bhstewie said:
I'm sure there will be some, but I'd expect there to be some trouble from some extremes whatever happens.

Main thing is people protest within the law and if not it's nipped in the bud.
this is the reason I think the referendum was stupid, as when you create winners you also create losers.

It would have been better to have some sort of survey attached to the census to guage opinion the decide what to do from that.
I think one thing is clear - everyone hates referendums now.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 17th December 2018
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Balmoral said:
Looking at the office for National statistics it looks like about 560,000 people die in the UK each year. I don't think there are any statistics for those deaths listed by political affiliation or voting record.
laugh