Theresa May (Vol.2)

[RichB]

deadslow said:

yes, but unfortunately with Corbyn and May, the whole country is fked.

I seriously think you are over-dramatising it, or under thinking it. May's role is to conclude Brexit, the democratic decision of the country, and to preserve us from communist dinosaurs. By 2022 Corbyn will be 73, McDonnell with be 71, too old to be elected and and Momentum will have receded to the century old caves from which it emerged. Clearly the Conservatives will have a new leader to go into those general elections, that's been said, and one assumes Labour will, hopefully, have returned to a more centralist path or been confined to the third party as a new central party emerges. No, I'm quite happy for May to tread water while 19thC communists disappear up their own orifices and British politics resumes normality.

[The Li-ion King]

amgmcqueen said:

frisbee said:

Rumours that PM Frutiloop might be planning a snap election. Just how badly can she screw it up this time?

Maybe a coalition with the SNP?

I thought Judas May said she would step down before the next GE or is this another u-turn?

Theresa May, or she May Not more U turns than a black cab on Regent Street cue another ride in the Jag to Brussesls, to hear them say no, regarding changing the Deal regarding the back stop

[deadslow]

RichB said:

deadslow said:

yes, but unfortunately with Corbyn and May, the whole country is fked.

I seriously think you are over-dramatising it, or under thinking it. May's role is to conclude Brexit, the democratic decision of the country, and to preserve us from communist dinosaurs. By 2022 Corbyn will be 73, McDonnell with be 71, too old to be elected and and Momentum will have receded to the century old caves from which it emerged. Clearly the Conservatives will have a new leader to go into those general elections, that's been said, and one assumes Labour will, hopefully, have returned to a more centralist path or been confined to the third party as a new central party emerges. No, I'm quite happy for May to tread water while 19thC communists disappear up their own orifices and British politics resumes normality.

daft

[BlackLabel]

The things you have to do as PM.......


https://mobile.twitter.com/GiuseppeConteIT/status/...

[slow_poke]

BlackLabel said:

The things you have to do as PM.......


https://mobile.twitter.com/GiuseppeConteIT/status/...

Got to be better than her dancing.

[anonymous-user]

So it starts

[JagLover]

techiedave said:

So it starts

or ends

[johnxjsc1985]

JagLover said:

or ends

did it actually ever begin

[powerstroke]

Some legacy you're leaving behind Stupid woman!!! ,how do we think May will be viewed in ten years time ,
Thatcher made the tories electable , May destroyed them ???

[chris watton]

And remember all, 'Brexit means Brexit'

[JagLover]

chris watton said:

And remember all, 'Brexit means Brexit'

and "no deal is better than a bad deal"

[amusingduck]

JagLover said:

chris watton said:

And remember all, 'Brexit means Brexit'

and "no deal is better than a bad deal"

and "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide."

[Jazzy Jag]

amusingduck said:

JagLover said:

chris watton said:

And remember all, 'Brexit means Brexit'

and "no deal is better than a bad deal"

and "This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide."

Strong and stable,

[Ructions]

powerstroke said:

Some legacy you're leaving behind Stupid woman!!! ,how do we think May will be viewed in ten years time ,
Thatcher made the tories electable , May destroyed them ???

I think Corbyn is making Labour more unelectable and could possibly destroy his own party before May’s next vote of confidence.

[chris watton]

Ructions said:

powerstroke said:

Some legacy you're leaving behind Stupid woman!!! ,how do we think May will be viewed in ten years time ,
Thatcher made the tories electable , May destroyed them ???

I think Corbyn is making Labour more unelectable and could possibly destroy his own party before May’s next vote of confidence.

A race to the bottom, then?

[blade runner]

So what happens now?

First bit is straight-foward I would assume. All those MP's who want to remain will now vote down the May deal first and then vote to take no deal off the table. Even if May managed (by some miracle) to get the backstop taken out of the WA, I'd guess that enough pro remain MP's on both sides would still vote against it now that no deal could be taken off the table and they think there is a chance of Brexit being cancelled.

The only option then is an extension to A50, but to what ultimate end? The May deal would surely be dead, having have been rejected twice by Parliament, so I can't see how it could be included on any second referundum as an option. Having failed miserably, perhaps May will call a GE and stand down, allowing a more pro-Brexit leader to be appointed running on a manifesto of leaving with a managed no deal? Or we have a second referundum with a binary choice of leave with no deal or remain?

[B'stard Child]

blade runner said:

So what happens now?

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Or we have a second referundum with a binary choice of leave with no deal or remain?

They will do everything they can to avoid that - they cannot guaruntee the outcome they want so I’d envisage a much more complicated referendum question where the results can be interpreted as “without a clear mandate to leave”

Even then they would be extremely concerned about the public giving the wrong answer again

[paulrockliffe]

It won't go to another referendum, there isn't really comprehensive support in Parliament, little support in the wild and more useful options for those that want to leave and remain.

Given what's happened in the last week or so I'm amazed May didn't announce an extension long enough that we will elect MEPs and the EU will have to find a way of constituting it's Parliament legally in July as a result. Then resign and an election as quickly as possible. Well, I'm not really amazed as she has no tactical ability or judgement and will have to be dragged out of Number 10.

Vote in April/May and the oxymoronic TIG are gone, Labour have to make an impossible choice between the cities and the workers. Cons shed votes, but nowhere near as badly and better concentrated on large majorities. New leader, new majority, reset.

As things stand, she'll be forced out by the ERG/DUP if there's a delay given that it'll precipitate the above now, rather than a Corbyn Government. She's lost that threat that was holding things together.

[Mothersruin]

chris watton said:

Ructions said:

powerstroke said:

Some legacy you're leaving behind Stupid woman!!! ,how do we think May will be viewed in ten years time ,
Thatcher made the tories electable , May destroyed them ???

I think Corbyn is making Labour more unelectable and could possibly destroy his own party before May’s next vote of confidence.

A race to the bottom, then?

Has been for years. May & Corbyn are just very good at being st at a period in time when not a single soul wants their jobs.

[carinatauk]

With the new stance that May has chosen re Brexit, what's the betting she and her team have been offer something lucrative in the future. May to become EU's President for placing cherries on cakes; a life time role and plenty of reward to boot.