Theresa May (Vol.2)
Discussion
techiedave said:
I think very few come out of this looking good all of course my own opinion which is as worthwhile / worthless as anyone else's
Mrs May - gambled away a viable small majority and this led to endless peculation about her position. This emboldened leadership candidates to be the subject of ongoing and boring speculation. Came up with a deal that didn't really appeal to anyone. It also gave far more importance to the DUP than IMO they deserve(d)
The DUP - behaved as senior partners at times and appeared greedy promoted way beyond their importance
Jeremy Corbyn - Seemed unable, unwilling to give much of a clear indication of his position. His tactic was to say whatever the tories came back with was crap but never really came up with something in its place
Jacob Rees Mogg - Initially presented as quirky eccentric incredibly polite and patient. Now he just seems another oily untrustworthy politician
John Bercow. has been smug discourteous superior and agin IMO is the very very worse face of modern politics. I believe he has done great harm to how politicians and parliament are viewed and has damaged respect
The reason May went for the election was because of the ERG. It didn't take a genius to work out that they would make trouble, as that's what they always do. Her advisors would have told her that the probable outcome would be a significantly increased majority, and most of the seats she'd win would be made up of those who would not cause trouble. Mrs May - gambled away a viable small majority and this led to endless peculation about her position. This emboldened leadership candidates to be the subject of ongoing and boring speculation. Came up with a deal that didn't really appeal to anyone. It also gave far more importance to the DUP than IMO they deserve(d)
The DUP - behaved as senior partners at times and appeared greedy promoted way beyond their importance
Jeremy Corbyn - Seemed unable, unwilling to give much of a clear indication of his position. His tactic was to say whatever the tories came back with was crap but never really came up with something in its place
Jacob Rees Mogg - Initially presented as quirky eccentric incredibly polite and patient. Now he just seems another oily untrustworthy politician
John Bercow. has been smug discourteous superior and agin IMO is the very very worse face of modern politics. I believe he has done great harm to how politicians and parliament are viewed and has damaged respect
Mogg has always come across as a chancer, a bit of a carpet-bagger, albeit in ill-fitting clothes. He has always presented himself as someone with a tremendous conceit.
defblade said:
Puggit said:
Err... no... 49% say they don't want any of them, 51% picked one. So, most people would like one of them, even if they don't agree which.I'm sure there are Brexit parallels to be drawn here, but mainly it shows SkyNews failed basic maths.
Burwood said:
defblade said:
It’s fake news anyway. And no one gives a monkeys. What’s important is it won’t be CorbynBoris was the one who I believe swayed the balance towards leave when he switched sides a few months before the vote.
He did this to take on Cameron, purely for personal reasons, he is no more a leaver than I am.
I suspect they made a playground bet at Eton who would be PM first.
Dave won the bet but Boris wanted payback, and now 66 million people have to deal with the fallout from their decades old personal spat.
I don’t know but if he has the numbers, he’s in. We’ll leave for sure then. It’s a fking shambles and all mps are to blame. The PM must go. Must keep Labour out. Even today it’s pretty much 50/50 so my view is que sera sera. The sky won’t fall and theirs nothing I can do about it anyway. The EU have shown themselves to be a pack of bds so fk them
Burwood said:
I don’t know but if he has the numbers, he’s in. We’ll leave for sure then. It’s a fking shambles and all mps are to blame. The PM must go. Must keep Labour out. Even today it’s pretty much 50/50 so my view is que sera sera. The sky won’t fall and theirs nothing I can do about it anyway. The EU have shown themselves to be a pack of bds so fk them
157 Tory MPs were in favour of "no deal" as an option in the indicative votes - half of the parliamentary party. If they vote the same way in a leadership election, a correctly anointed "leave" candidate would be leader. I would love someone to say to the EU £39 billion you can fk right off. If we end up with anything less than being able to do our own trade deals , taking Control of our own Laws and borders then what is the point "lets call the whole thing off" and fill the place with Farage look a likes
johnxjsc1985 said:
I would love someone to say to the EU £39 billion you can fk right off. If we end up with anything less than being able to do our own trade deals , taking Control of our own Laws and borders then what is the point "lets call the whole thing off" and fill the place with Farage look a likes
What, like a box of frogs?The current state of affairs within May’s cabinet.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1111...
https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1111...
BlackLabel said:
The current state of affairs within May’s cabinet.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1111...
Seems about right https://mobile.twitter.com/Holbornlolz/status/1111...
Burwood said:
p1stonhead said:
Burwood said:
The vote today will be to reject her deal, thrice. Out we go, fellas.
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