Theresa May (Vol.2)

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Leicester Loyal

4,553 posts

123 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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CaptainSlow said:
Were the last three words needed?
Was your reply needed?

Same answer to both questions Mr. Slow.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Burwood said:
Mrs May is in for a hiding later today. I have no doubt we will now see an extension and we won't leave.
I agree that's the way it's drifting.

If that's the way it plays out there's going to be at least one more major party in the next General Election, IMO, and I'm not talking about the Liberal Democrats.


anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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petop said:
Again i have said this before. I feel for TM. Aside from the fact her throat is voice is screwed at the moment she is trying to speak about the whole Brexit thing in the Commons on TV and minor "celebrity" MP's are interrupting her asking inane questions like "Can the PM confirm that people of Gibralter voted to remain in the EU...". Well apart from the fact instead of asking you could Google it (!!!!) these so called peoples representatives just seem to be there for the TV time on this important day and get Brexit through!

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 12th March 14:47
I agree its like a "hi mum" event for some

djohnson

3,435 posts

224 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Vaud said:
The Li-ion King said:
Isn't there something that means she can't be challenged until December 12 this year after last botched challenge to overthrow her?
Yes, but she can step down.
Yes, also she can’t be challenged from within the party by a Tory vote of confidence in her till Dec. However she’s not immune from a vote of confidence in the house against her government, if this got through first time there’s then a two week period for someone to try to form a government and obtain the confidence of the house at the 2nd vote 2 weeks later. The DUP etc might vote against the government in the first ballot and when the Tories change leader in the two week gap vote with the government In the second ballot, hence finishing May off without causing a general election. Risky but possible.

petop

2,141 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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So my favourite Politician interviewed by Kay Burley. The usual eloquent answers being given by RM. On the question of support to the PM it went like this...
Burley "But in the meantime the PM has your full support during this time?".
RM "Well she has my support, im not sure i was going to add the word full".
Burley "what level of support does she have if its not full?".
RM, straight to the point "sufficient"!


RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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petop said:
So my favourite Politician interviewed by Kay Burley. The usual eloquent answers being given by RM. On the question of support to the PM it went like this...
Burley "But in the meantime the PM has your full support during this time?".
RM "Well she has my support, im not sure i was going to add the word full".
Burley "what level of support does she have if its not full?".
RM, straight to the point "sufficient"!
RM= Rees Mogg, must confess I don't like the chap and this to sounds a typical RM supercilious reply.

bitchstewie

51,448 posts

211 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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If you listen to Rees-Mogg on LBC it's even harder to like him. In fact he doesn't come across as remotely likeable.

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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RichB said:
petop said:
So my favourite Politician interviewed by Kay Burley. The usual eloquent answers being given by RM. On the question of support to the PM it went like this...
Burley "But in the meantime the PM has your full support during this time?".
RM "Well she has my support, im not sure i was going to add the word full".
Burley "what level of support does she have if its not full?".
RM, straight to the point "sufficient"!
RM= Rees Mogg, must confess I don't like the chap and this to sounds a typical RM supercilious reply.
Do you think she has RM's full support ?

RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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jonby said:
RichB said:
petop said:
So my favourite Politician interviewed by Kay Burley. The usual eloquent answers being given by RM. On the question of support to the PM it went like this...
Burley "But in the meantime the PM has your full support during this time?".
RM "Well she has my support, im not sure i was going to add the word full".
Burley "what level of support does she have if its not full?".
RM, straight to the point "sufficient"!
RM= Rees Mogg, must confess I don't like the chap and this to sounds a typical RM supercilious reply.
Do you think she has RM's full support ?
I have no idea.

petop

2,141 posts

167 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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I must be a minority then.

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

165 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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What I find strange is coming to the HOC knowing that the deal she is offering is not binding and will be voted down what is the point.
I fear that the following days are going to be a terrible spectacle demonstrating that we do not have a house of representatives MP's just self serving ones.

curlyks2

1,031 posts

147 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I fear that the following days are going to be a terrible spectacle demonstrating that we do not have a house of representatives MP's just self serving ones.
Not sure we'll notice the difference between the last 200+ years and the following days.

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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RichB said:
jonby said:
RichB said:
petop said:
So my favourite Politician interviewed by Kay Burley. The usual eloquent answers being given by RM. On the question of support to the PM it went like this...
Burley "But in the meantime the PM has your full support during this time?".
RM "Well she has my support, im not sure i was going to add the word full".
Burley "what level of support does she have if its not full?".
RM, straight to the point "sufficient"!
RM= Rees Mogg, must confess I don't like the chap and this to sounds a typical RM supercilious reply.
Do you think she has RM's full support ?
I have no idea.
I genuinely don't get it. Disagreeing with his politics is one thing, but at least we know what JM's views are

Most MPs avoid answering questions, answer a different question, read off a script, give an answer they think will get them into the least trouble, etc. JM gives a clear, succinct, direct answer to a question and he is still criticised.

His alternatives were to agree (which I suspect, although like you I don't actually know, would be a lie), to give a load of waffle which amounted to nothing tangible or clearly explain he's not fully supporting TM. Or am I missing another alternative ? What exactly is it that he has done wrong in this instance ?

Personally I wish more MPs on all sides of the political spectrum would behave like he does - luckily he seems to respect good parliamentarians regardless of where their politics lie despite so many not offering him the same in return

RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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jonby said:
I genuinely don't get it. Disagreeing with his politics is one thing, but at least we know what JM's views are
What is there not to get? i simply said I don't like the chap and that reply, to me, sounds supercilious, perhaps I'm wrong. I didn't comment in order to start an argument.

mattyn1

5,777 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Why did so many MPs not leave the room to vote?

Vaud

50,619 posts

156 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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mattyn1 said:
Why did so many MPs not leave the room to vote?
Abstentions?

Chicken Chaser

7,822 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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I dont think any of the leavers believed that there would be such a calamitous approach to leaving, and such I'm sure that quite a lot of them would vote remain just because they realise how bad it is.

I genuinely think some remainers thought that we'd float away from Europe and not be part of it anymore, not just leaving the Union.


Time is running out though, if May is sandbagging in the hope that a second vote gets on the table, then I think if it does, there will be a remain vote. Why do I think that? Purely from the fact that there is a middle ground of voters who would probably just want to throw the towel in and accept to carry on carrying on (in Europe). The problem the govt have then is that I reckon the leavers will be far far more noisy than the remainers if they don't get their way and would suspect that there will probably be Panic On The Streets of London, and Birmingham, and many other areas. Maybe TM should have done a Thatcher when bolstering the Police to tackle the miners.........

RichB

51,640 posts

285 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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Chicken Chaser said:
<clip> Maybe TM should have done a Thatcher when bolstering the Police to tackle the miners.........
But then Thatcher would never have allowed the EU to give the UK such a lousy deal when Cameron tried to negotiate. That in turn resulted in him having to offer a sop to UKippers by offering a referendum in order to secure seats at a general election. No, she would never have allowed the EU to boss her around in exit negotiations but I doubt we'd have been be in the mess in the first place with her leadership.

Chicken Chaser

7,822 posts

225 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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RichB said:
But then Thatcher would never have allowed the EU to give the UK such a lousy deal when Cameron tried to negotiate. That in turn resulted in him having to offer a sop to UKippers by offering a referendum in order to secure seats at a general election. No, she would never have allowed the EU to boss her around in exit negotiations but I doubt we'd have been be in the mess in the first place with her leadership.
I've no doubt, but in a game of chess where she needs to consider her strengths, TM has done nothing but create weaknesses in just about everything she has touched. She is a complete failure and her ineptitude has led us to where we are today.

biggbn

23,469 posts

221 months

Tuesday 12th March 2019
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A summary of her tenure at no10...Strong...stable...brexit means brexit.