Brexit Referendum - top two choices

[Piha]

gothatway said:

Many Remainers complained that there should have been a threshold of 60 or 67% or whatever before the referendum vote could overturn the status quo. Do those same folk believe that a similar threshold should now be applied in any second ref as the status quo is currently that we're leaving ?

I think there should be a clear majority in any referendum. It was foolish to think that a small majority win based on rainbow coloured unicorns and outright xenophobic lies would unite the country and silence the Pro Remain campaign.

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

[Russian Troll Bot]

Piha said:

gothatway said:

Many Remainers complained that there should have been a threshold of 60 or 67% or whatever before the referendum vote could overturn the status quo. Do those same folk believe that a similar threshold should now be applied in any second ref as the status quo is currently that we're leaving ?

I think there should be a clear majority in any referendum. It was foolish to think that a small majority win based on rainbow coloured unicorns and outright xenophobic lies would unite the country and silence the Pro Remain campaign.

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

I assume you would still be calling for a second vote if Remain had won by 52%? And what of those who will be too young to vote in your second referendum, when do they get a say in their future?

[Piha]

Russian Troll Bot said:

Piha said:

gothatway said:

Many Remainers complained that there should have been a threshold of 60 or 67% or whatever before the referendum vote could overturn the status quo. Do those same folk believe that a similar threshold should now be applied in any second ref as the status quo is currently that we're leaving ?

I think there should be a clear majority in any referendum. It was foolish to think that a small majority win based on rainbow coloured unicorns and outright xenophobic lies would unite the country and silence the Pro Remain campaign.

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

I assume you would still be calling for a second vote if Remain had won by 52%? And what of those who will be too young to vote in your second referendum, when do they get a say in their future?

If Remain had won I would be saying exactly as I have written above. That is why I wrote the above statement. I have highlighted the relevant sentence to help you with your reading.

With a clear majority it makes the numbers of emerging new voter numbers irrelevant due to numbers - clear majority = 4 to 7 million v new voters each year = 2 million. The numbers are approximate.

I would still want to Remain and would still be vocal about that but if referendum was won with a clear majority then I wouldn't ask for another ref 2 or 3 years later. If there were serious legal irregularities exposed centred around the winning side in a referendum then I would want the original referendum to be annulled and a new ref.

[Russian Troll Bot]

Piha said:

If Remain had won I would be saying exactly as I have written above. That is why I wrote the above statement. I have highlighted the relevant sentence to help you with your reading.

With a clear majority it makes the numbers of emerging new voter numbers irrelevant due to numbers - clear majority = 4 to 7 million v new voters each year = 2 million. The numbers are approximate.

I would still want to Remain and would still be vocal about that but if referendum was won with a clear majority then I wouldn't ask for another ref 2 or 3 years later. If there were serious legal irregularities exposed centred around the winning side in a referendum then I would want the original referendum to be annulled and a new ref.

So you would be here saying "well yes we won, but it wasn't by a big margin So it's only fair we go again just to be certain"? Sure you would. And isn't it funny how the argument of people being too young to have their say was never made in the run up to the first vote?

[ClaphamGT3]

Remain/May's deal with a clear message that, if Parliament does not endorse May's deal, the default is remain, not no deal

[gizlaroc]

ClaphamGT3 said:

Remain/May's deal with a clear message that, if Parliament does not endorse May's deal, the default is remain, not no deal

You're on form this morning.

[Crackie]

Piha said:

It was foolish to think that a small majority win based on rainbow coloured unicorns and outright xenophobic lies would unite the country and silence the Pro Remain campaign.

Piha said:

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

Have another

Edited by Crackie on Sunday 16th December 11:21

[irocfan]

Piha said:

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

by your 'logic' we may as well give people over the age of 6 the vote and disbar anyone over the age of 45 - after-all decisions made today will affect the young.

[gizlaroc]

Crackie said:

Piha said:

It was foolish to think that a small majority win based on rainbow coloured unicorns and outright xenophobic lies would unite the country and silence the Pro Remain campaign.

Piha said:

A clear majority in the 1st referendum would stop the calls for the 2nd referendum and silence those who now wish to vote on their futures but were prevented from doing so due to their age.

Have another

He's truly wonderful.

The level of anger raging within is just hilarious.

[anonymous-user]

Mays deal is dead.

If there were another referendum the only two options will be remain or WTO.

WTO would win easily. The last referendum result was scewed by the fallout from the joe cox murder, prior to that leave were surging ahead.

I haven't voted in this poll because the option of Mays deal being a choice is ignoring the reality that its dead.

[johnxjsc1985]

jsf said:

Mays deal is dead.

If there were another referendum the only two options will be remain or WTO.

WTO would win easily. The last referendum result was scewed by the fallout from the joe cox murder, prior to that leave were surging ahead.

I haven't voted in this poll because the option of Mays deal being a choice is ignoring the reality that its dead.

Another Referendum will find a way of splitting the leave vote by having multiple questions. The question is are they prepared for the backlash of 17 million so far quiet leave voters.
I cant see much movement before the 29th March 2019 when a sudden focus may be achieved

[anonymous-user]

Russian Troll Bot said:

So you would be here saying "well yes we won, but it wasn't by a big margin So it's only fair we go again just to be certain"? Sure you would. And isn't it funny how the argument of people being too young to have their say was never made in the run up to the first vote?

People also forget the ability to register to vote was extended to allow the lazy yoof to register. That added 430,000 people to the roll, most would likely have been remainers who woke up late. https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&source=web&a...

[Piha]

jsf said:

Mays deal is dead.

If there were another referendum the only two options will be remain or WTO.

WTO would win easily. The last referendum result was scewed by the fallout from the joe cox murder, prior to that leave were surging ahead.

I haven't voted in this poll because the option of Mays deal being a choice is ignoring the reality that its dead.

"Everybody, let me assure you, Leave isn't in disarray whatsoever"

[gizlaroc]

Piha said:

"Everybody, let me assure you, Leave isn't in disarray whatsoever"

Of course it is in disarray, it has been run by a remainer and the outcome is being decided by remainers.
It was never going to be anything else.

[Piha]

gizlaroc said:

Piha said:

"Everybody, let me assure you, Leave isn't in disarray whatsoever"

Of course it is in disarray, it has been run by a remainer and the outcome is being decided by remainers.
It was never going to be anything else.

Is that because the Brexiteer MP's have clearly shown they are beyond useless when it comes to absolutely anything apart from meaningless soundbites?




Here, take a look at this nugget.....




And just take a look at the Leave.EU march yesterday...... those utter muppets blocked an ambulance FFS, and then thought it would be a great idea to post the video showing their brainless actions on their own publicity feed..... staggeringly moronic action that is beyond all belief.........

[gizlaroc]

Piha said:

Is that because the Brexiteer MP's have clearly shown they are beyond useless when it comes to absolutely anything apart from meaningless soundbites?




Here, take a look at this nugget.....




And just take a look at the Leave.EU march yesterday...... those utter muppets blocked an ambulance FFS, and then thought it would be a great idea to post the video showing their brainless actions on their own publicity feed..... staggeringly moronic action that is beyond all belief.........

You simply don't get it at all do you?

Undermining the Brexit vote at every opportunity has ruined any chance of negotiating a decent deal.

[Piha]

gizlaroc said:

Piha said:

Is that because the Brexiteer MP's have clearly shown they are beyond useless when it comes to absolutely anything apart from meaningless soundbites?




Here, take a look at this nugget.....




And just take a look at the Leave.EU march yesterday...... those utter muppets blocked an ambulance FFS, and then thought it would be a great idea to post the video showing their brainless actions on their own publicity feed..... staggeringly moronic action that is beyond all belief.........

You simply don't get it at all do you?

Undermining the Brexit vote at every opportunity has ruined any chance of negotiating a decent deal.

So those imbecilic Leave.EU buffoons stopping an ambulance and then posting on their very own publicity feed is undermining Brexit is it?

I think that it is you that doesn't get it.

[davey68]

By your argument Piha you would never accept a referendum result without a large (how much is large?) majority? You would be on here supporting a 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc as it is such a divisive issue you will never get a decisive results such as 70/30. I'm sorry but I believe if remain has won 52/48 you would not be posting on these forums pushing for another go.

[Piha]

davey68 said:

By your argument Piha you would never accept a referendum result without a large (how much is large?) majority? You would be on here supporting a 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc as it is such a divisive issue you will never get a decisive results such as 70/30. I'm sorry but I believe if remain has won 52/48 you would not be posting on these forums pushing for another go.

I appreciate your opinion but look at my comments about referendum victory %'s. I stand by those comments.

[gizlaroc]

Piha said:

So those imbecilic Leave.EU buffoons stopping an ambulance and then posting on their very own publicity feed is undermining Brexit is it?

I think that it is you that doesn't get it.

What the fk has that got to do with where we are at so far on leaving the EU?

Seriously?

Negotiations are up to the point where May went back to try and get some more clarity on the backstop.

Explain to me how some idiots blocking traffic have effected anything?


You know full well everything has been done by remainers to try and reverse the decision, it is still being done now. It only seems a handful of people on here seem to not accept that fact.