Brexit Referendum - top two choices

[silentbrown]

Just updated the "results" so far. No Deal still convincingly on top!

However. based on the current votes, if it was a binary question...

57% would prefer No Deal over Mays deal (44%)
61% would prefer No Deal over Remain (39%)
but 55% would prefer Remain over May's deal(45%)

[City_boy]

Piha said:

The Peoples Vote is coming. 640000 people took to the streets the capital to protest this. A million + signed the petition that was delivered to parliament this week.

Lets see how many join the Brexit march...........

No they didn’t.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Thankfully a load of London Yummy Mummies and a load of southern metropolitan middle class remainers with a "union business" day off from their government paid job do not make the decisions in the Uk

Edited by The Dangerous Elk on Wednesday 5th December 14:03

[silentbrown]

The Dangerous Elk said:

..a load of southern metropolitan middle class remainers with a "union business" day off from their government paid job do not make the decisions in the Uk

Actually, they do. Most people call them "MPs".

[The Dangerous Elk]

silentbrown said:

Actually, they do. Most people call them "MPs".

LOL, true dat init

[Helicopter123]

City_boy said:

Piha said:

The Peoples Vote is coming. 640000 people took to the streets the capital to protest this. A million + signed the petition that was delivered to parliament this week.

Lets see how many join the Brexit march...........

No they didn’t.

The more widely quoted figure is 700,000, the largest march in London since the Iraq War.

[The Dangerous Elk]

Helicopter123 said:

since the Iraq War.

and will be ignored by the politicians again like said war (& so it should be).

[Biker 1]

Piha said:

Any Brexit focussed party will attract a certain amount of extreme right wing followers.

Aren't many leavers Labour voters though?

If Brexit is cancelled by stealth or otherwise, I feel sorry for many foreigners working in this country who will be at the mercy of the baying mob.

[tight fart]

How many more referendums should we have?

If there's another and it's 52 to 48 to stay in, then by the remainers reasoning thats not good enough.

So best of 3 or maybe 5 in total?

[Helicopter123]

tight fart said:

How many more referendums should we have?

If there's another and it's 52 to 48 to stay in, then by the remainers reasoning thats not good enough.

So best of 3 or maybe 5 in total?

There is no limit to holding referendums on any matter, although they are less common in a parliamentary democracy.

The key is the word democracy.

People are entitled to change their minds, after all, wouldn't you agree?

[neil1jnr]

Piha said:

neil1jnr said:

Vanden Saab said:

Piha said:

Helicopter123 said:

City_boy said:

Piha said:

Then maybe you should ask yourself if the tories included any declaration of aims or policy in that manifesto that they clearly had little control over.

Surely you don't believe everything a political party says just to gain votes?

There were some quite explicit requirements, yes. Can I assume you don’t know what these were?

The Tories were elected to deliver a Brexit deal.

May has concluded the negotiations and her deal is now in front of parliament.

I do believe that Helicopter123 is correct. It is time for the Brexiteers to get behind TM and support her Brexit deal. If you don't give TM your support then I expect a Peoples Vote and who knows what result you might get.

It is up to you Brexit supporters, it's your choice. You have your deal, it's the best on offer, now support TM or risk losing your beloved Brexit to the Remain brigades!

Ha ha rejecting May's deal is win win win for us. If it is rejected the options are go back and get a deal that is acceptable. Leave with no deal or cancel brexit which will result in a brexit party being formed that will take us out after the next election.

No deal is the best option. May did an awful job. Don't get me started on 'a peoples vote'. We have had that in 2016 remember, the people have made their decision. Regardless which way you voted we have to leave.

The Peoples Vote is coming. 640000 people took to the streets the capital to protest this. A million + signed the petition that was delivered to parliament this week.

Lets see how many join the Brexit march...........

It's a disgrace. 640,000 babies throwing their toys out of the pram, how mature.

[Piha]

neil1jnr said:

Piha said:

neil1jnr said:

Vanden Saab said:

Piha said:

Helicopter123 said:

City_boy said:

Piha said:

Then maybe you should ask yourself if the tories included any declaration of aims or policy in that manifesto that they clearly had little control over.

Surely you don't believe everything a political party says just to gain votes?

There were some quite explicit requirements, yes. Can I assume you don’t know what these were?

The Tories were elected to deliver a Brexit deal.

May has concluded the negotiations and her deal is now in front of parliament.

I do believe that Helicopter123 is correct. It is time for the Brexiteers to get behind TM and support her Brexit deal. If you don't give TM your support then I expect a Peoples Vote and who knows what result you might get.

It is up to you Brexit supporters, it's your choice. You have your deal, it's the best on offer, now support TM or risk losing your beloved Brexit to the Remain brigades!

Ha ha rejecting May's deal is win win win for us. If it is rejected the options are go back and get a deal that is acceptable. Leave with no deal or cancel brexit which will result in a brexit party being formed that will take us out after the next election.

No deal is the best option. May did an awful job. Don't get me started on 'a peoples vote'. We have had that in 2016 remember, the people have made their decision. Regardless which way you voted we have to leave.

The Peoples Vote is coming. 640000 people took to the streets the capital to protest this. A million + signed the petition that was delivered to parliament this week.

Lets see how many join the Brexit march...........

It's a disgrace. 640,000 babies throwing their toys out of the pram, how mature.

My mistake, it was reported as 700000....!!!

Anyway, how many will turn up for the Brexit march?

Shall we have a poll?

[Piha]

tight fart said:

How many more referendums should we have?

If there's another and it's 52 to 48 to stay in, then by the remainers reasoning thats not good enough.

So best of 3 or maybe 5 in total?

If it means that during the referendum season we can't leave the EU, then I'm happy to just keep going!

3 referendums every year for the foreseeable future?

[Sparkyhd]

I'm leaning towards cancelling Article 50, remaining for a day then re-declare Article 50 and spend 2 years planning for a no deal exit.

[tight fart]

Helicopter123 said:

There is no limit to holding referendums on any matter, although they are less common in a parliamentary democracy.

The key is the word democracy.

People are entitled to change their minds, after all, wouldn't you agree?

It's not the hokey cokey

[curlyks2]

tight fart said:

It's not the hokey cokey

Someone should remind our elected Parliament of that.

[olimain]

Piha said:

My mistake, it was reported as 700000....!!!

Anyway, how many will turn up for the Brexit march?

Shall we have a poll?

I thought I'd read the police had it at 250k - regardless of the exact figure I'd imagine the pro Brexit one to be far smaller, wouldn't you? Even moreso as I believe it's being organised by some pretty dubious characters who most people wouldn't want to associate themselves with.

Regardless of numbers, I'd expect it to have the exact same effect as all the previous marches/protests/daily e-petitions. Sod all.

[Helicopter123]

tight fart said:

Helicopter123 said:

There is no limit to holding referendums on any matter, although they are less common in a parliamentary democracy.

The key is the word democracy.

People are entitled to change their minds, after all, wouldn't you agree?

It's not the hokey cokey

I believe one more would settle the matter, either way.

We know the terms of the May deal, and we know the terms or remaining in the EU.

[olimain]

Helicopter123 said:

I believe one more would settle the matter, either way.

We know the terms of the May deal, and we know the terms or remaining in the EU.

Clearly they wouldn't be the two options in the hypothetical referendum. May's deal is almost universally hated.

Completely understand that in an ideal world you want to stay in the EU, but given we're leaving would you prefer May's deal over a Norway/EFTA or Canada style agreement?

Edited by olimain on Wednesday 5th December 16:10

[silentbrown]

olimain said:

I thought I'd read the police had it at 250k

"The Metropolitan Police said it was not able to estimate the size of the crowd."