Triple child killer cleared for release
Discussion
One thing that's really wrong here? The Parole Board in question 'should' be made accountable. That means if someone tops him, to the other extreme he carries out another crime (of any sort). Because it will mean they got it wrong. If you or I do anything wrong in our work or daily life we get held accountable. That's right and proper.
Perhaps we should call in the 'girls'?
When the dopey Parole Board decided in the stupid wisdom to release 'Warboys', the 'girls' got really angry and vocal and as such he was not released, and it ended up with the Parole Board Chair having to resign.
Good! That's the way it should be.
Perhaps we should call in the 'girls'?
When the dopey Parole Board decided in the stupid wisdom to release 'Warboys', the 'girls' got really angry and vocal and as such he was not released, and it ended up with the Parole Board Chair having to resign.
Good! That's the way it should be.
thetrickcyclist said:
Having followed a link on the afore mentioned thread I believe he should never never be allowed out.
To say he murdered 3 young children, is being inaccurate.
He turned on toddlers who he had cared for and played with for months.
He rendered those children into a condition unrecognisable as human, let alone toddlers.
With razor then pickaxe.
Then impaled the remains on a cast iron fence outside the family home, the one he had shared with them.
You cannot "cure" or "reform" someone of that level of bestiality.
What the hell are they thinking about..
I think some psychologists love playing god.To say he murdered 3 young children, is being inaccurate.
He turned on toddlers who he had cared for and played with for months.
He rendered those children into a condition unrecognisable as human, let alone toddlers.
With razor then pickaxe.
Then impaled the remains on a cast iron fence outside the family home, the one he had shared with them.
You cannot "cure" or "reform" someone of that level of bestiality.
What the hell are they thinking about..
And if he does re-offend, you can just see the excuses they'll come up with.
What sort of liability does the parole board have? They palm it off on to the 'expert' psychologists who will then just say that there was no evidence he was still dangerous.
All seems a bit of a joke.
Here's hoping someone messes up his day and impales him on a big rusty spike, still alive.
What an abhorrent piece of filth. WTF kind of money has been spent on this waste of oxygen over 45 effing years.
Whilst the poor mother must live the nightmare every fekin day.
If I ever felt like topping myself, I'd make it my mission to take someone like him out at the same time.
This story has played on my mind all day and I have gone from shock to horror and now blind spitting hatred.
I sincerely wish he dies slowly and painfully, screaming for pity that will never come.
Unfortunately it won't happen. He'll be looked after better than our war pensioners, laughing at the weak society that just hasn't got the guts to give him the punishment he deserved 45 years ago.
What an abhorrent piece of filth. WTF kind of money has been spent on this waste of oxygen over 45 effing years.
Whilst the poor mother must live the nightmare every fekin day.
If I ever felt like topping myself, I'd make it my mission to take someone like him out at the same time.
This story has played on my mind all day and I have gone from shock to horror and now blind spitting hatred.
I sincerely wish he dies slowly and painfully, screaming for pity that will never come.
Unfortunately it won't happen. He'll be looked after better than our war pensioners, laughing at the weak society that just hasn't got the guts to give him the punishment he deserved 45 years ago.
Brooking10 said:
It’s been raised elsewhere on the “scum of the earth “ thread.
Everybody seems to agree this kind of crime warrants full life term incarceration.
There is one chap on the thread who claims to be a publicly recognised expert in the field of the UK justice system who is particularly vocal on the subject.
Not as well recognised or experienced as yourself though.Everybody seems to agree this kind of crime warrants full life term incarceration.
There is one chap on the thread who claims to be a publicly recognised expert in the field of the UK justice system who is particularly vocal on the subject.
Certainly not as vocal as yourself.
However being a Restructuring Advisor means your a Jack of all trades.... master of none.
Yes I know most of you are going to look up exactly what that nonsense job title is.
Restructuring what exactly.
If the word finance was incorporated we may stand a chance.
Basically it's a glorified bean counter tasked with finding ways a financial institution can rip the arse out of the system to the consumers detriment to create profit for those on high.
These bleeding heart.... left wing.... liberal...guardian reading half wits on the Parole Board are not accountable in any way.
Try and find the names of the individuals who authorised this... no chance.
If they're so confident why don't they have him live at their gaff.
Imagine the cost to the public purse of keeping this thing in society and it will continue on release.
He'll have every service available at his fingertips.
He'll be better treated than many pensioners.
Eventually set up in his own property all mod cons no charge.
The only saving grace is someone will see him off or his life will be made such a misery he will want to go back inside.
He should have swung by the neck forty years ago.
How can a piece of s
te like that be considered as rehabilitated.
Try and find the names of the individuals who authorised this... no chance.
If they're so confident why don't they have him live at their gaff.
Imagine the cost to the public purse of keeping this thing in society and it will continue on release.
He'll have every service available at his fingertips.
He'll be better treated than many pensioners.
Eventually set up in his own property all mod cons no charge.
The only saving grace is someone will see him off or his life will be made such a misery he will want to go back inside.
He should have swung by the neck forty years ago.
How can a piece of s
te like that be considered as rehabilitated.
croyde said:
Here's hoping someone messes up his day and impales him on a big rusty spike, still alive.
What an abhorrent piece of filth. WTF kind of money has been spent on this waste of oxygen over 45 effing years.
Whilst the poor mother must live the nightmare every fekin day.
If I ever felt like topping myself, I'd make it my mission to take someone like him out at the same time.
This story has played on my mind all day and I have gone from shock to horror and now blind spitting hatred.
I sincerely wish he dies slowly and painfully, screaming for pity that will never come.
Unfortunately it won't happen. He'll be looked after better than our war pensioners, laughing at the weak society that just hasn't got the guts to give him the punishment he deserved 45 years ago.
I think if he'd done that to my kids I'd be waiting outside for his release.What an abhorrent piece of filth. WTF kind of money has been spent on this waste of oxygen over 45 effing years.
Whilst the poor mother must live the nightmare every fekin day.
If I ever felt like topping myself, I'd make it my mission to take someone like him out at the same time.
This story has played on my mind all day and I have gone from shock to horror and now blind spitting hatred.
I sincerely wish he dies slowly and painfully, screaming for pity that will never come.
Unfortunately it won't happen. He'll be looked after better than our war pensioners, laughing at the weak society that just hasn't got the guts to give him the punishment he deserved 45 years ago.
croyde said:
I read yesterday that the parole board thinks that it is 'unlikely' that he will reoffend.
Reassuring.
Quite so. Unless and until such people are held accountable in the event that they are wrong........... I wonder how the parents of his next victim will feel about this release in the event the creature strikes again.Reassuring.
Volvo1956 said:
Brooking10 said:
It’s been raised elsewhere on the “scum of the earth “ thread.
Everybody seems to agree this kind of crime warrants full life term incarceration.
There is one chap on the thread who claims to be a publicly recognised expert in the field of the UK justice system who is particularly vocal on the subject.
Not as well recognised or experienced as yourself though.Everybody seems to agree this kind of crime warrants full life term incarceration.
There is one chap on the thread who claims to be a publicly recognised expert in the field of the UK justice system who is particularly vocal on the subject.
Certainly not as vocal as yourself.
However being a Restructuring Advisor means your a Jack of all trades.... master of none.
Yes I know most of you are going to look up exactly what that nonsense job title is.
Restructuring what exactly.
If the word finance was incorporated we may stand a chance.
Basically it's a glorified bean counter tasked with finding ways a financial institution can rip the arse out of the system to the consumers detriment to create profit for those on high.
Here's hoping he meets a most unpleasant end preferably impaled on the rustiest blunt spiked fence available and take ten days to die.
Then justice will have been served for the three children and their parents.
Yes I know you bleeding hearts ... conned by a sob story..... liberal do folders don't like it but many members of society do and if it were your children I suppose you'd offer tea and sympathy to get them on the road to rehabilitation.
Then justice will have been served for the three children and their parents.
Yes I know you bleeding hearts ... conned by a sob story..... liberal do folders don't like it but many members of society do and if it were your children I suppose you'd offer tea and sympathy to get them on the road to rehabilitation.
Well he has to be moved to a lovely upmarket middle class area where he'll know plenty of people.
Let's face it it's only tax payers money being used to organise this.
He's not funding anything and at the end of the day he's only murdered three toddlers in the most horrific circumstances.
He's a reformed character don't you know and he deserves all our support to live out his years provided with more support and money than most people can only dream of.
It's said crime doesn't pay..... it does in this case.
He should have been dangling by the neck forty years ago.
I sincerely hope summary justice gets him and he dies a slow painful lingering death like he inflicted on those children.
Savage... vile... piece of human waste.
Let's face it it's only tax payers money being used to organise this.
He's not funding anything and at the end of the day he's only murdered three toddlers in the most horrific circumstances.
He's a reformed character don't you know and he deserves all our support to live out his years provided with more support and money than most people can only dream of.
It's said crime doesn't pay..... it does in this case.
He should have been dangling by the neck forty years ago.
I sincerely hope summary justice gets him and he dies a slow painful lingering death like he inflicted on those children.
Savage... vile... piece of human waste.
bmwmike said:
Any normal person wouldn't be able to live with themselves after doing something like that.
That he wants out of prison and a chance to lead a "normal" life suggests he is far from rehabilitated IMO.
Had he been rehabilitated, he would have topped himself in prison.
This sums up very neatly why I believe in capital punishment in exceptional circumstances. That he wants out of prison and a chance to lead a "normal" life suggests he is far from rehabilitated IMO.
Had he been rehabilitated, he would have topped himself in prison.
Forgive the gratuitous compliment but almost as neatly as TS Eliot:
After such knowledge, what forgiveness?
There's no 'normal life' after you murder 3 children left in your care. You might have a normal life after stealing a car or injuring somoene in a drunken brawl if you do your time and genuinely change your ways. If I ever woke up to find that some former 'me' had committed such crimes I can't imagine that I would want to carry on living.
bmwmike said:
Any normal person wouldn't be able to live with themselves after doing something like that.
That he wants out of prison and a chance to lead a "normal" life suggests he is far from rehabilitated IMO.
Had he been rehabilitated, he would have topped himself in prison.
The interesting thing ( for me ) was the section about the psych test he had to do, after his meltdown in the Navy, which “was never disclosed”. I bet it was something like an LSRP test like this.That he wants out of prison and a chance to lead a "normal" life suggests he is far from rehabilitated IMO.
Had he been rehabilitated, he would have topped himself in prison.
https://www.healthyplace.com/psychological-tests/p...
( which wasn’t around back then ). My guess is he’d score right up in the high 30s ( possibly a 40 ). This pretty much means he’d be incapable of seeing anything abnormal about what he did as Prototypical psychopaths have no concept of morals, or right and wrong. It’s believed that true psychopaths can’t be rehabilitated, because they don’t except what they did was unusual in any way.
dandarez said:
One thing that's really wrong here? The Parole Board in question 'should' be made accountable. That means if someone tops him, to the other extreme he carries out another crime (of any sort). Because it will mean they got it wrong. If you or I do anything wrong in our work or daily life we get held accountable. That's right and proper.
An assessment of reoffending isn’t binary. They aren’t saying someone won’t re-offend because that’s not possible. There’s always the risk someone will, no matter how small. They best they can do is make an assessment as to how probable it is someone will re-offend. If they judge it as unlikely someone will re-offend, and that’s the correct assessment based on the information they have, then it’d be irrational to hold them to account if that person does go on to re-offend.
When you had limited control of the outcome, then accountability comes through how well the process was applied.
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