Triple child killer cleared for release
Discussion
Brooking10 said:
Red 4 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
That even the very best of us can commit the very worst acts.
That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
You are not sticking up for McGreavy ?That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
Why say this then ?
Odd things to say considering the context ...
What part of that is sticking up for that dreadful man or in any way endorsing his crime ?
Salmonofdoubt said:
Brooking10 said:
Red 4 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
That even the very best of us can commit the very worst acts.
That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
You are not sticking up for McGreavy ?That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
Why say this then ?
Odd things to say considering the context ...
What part of that is sticking up for that dreadful man or in any way endorsing his crime ?
Salmonofdoubt - it's even harder to argue with people who clearly do not have the first idea what they are talking about (ie you).
Red 4 said:
Brooking 10 - Context.
Salmonofdoubt - it's even harder to argue with people who clearly do not have the first idea what they are talking about (ie you).
Show me where exactly I stuck up for McGready or excused his actions?Salmonofdoubt - it's even harder to argue with people who clearly do not have the first idea what they are talking about (ie you).
Please do, because I know what I said and I stand by every word of it. If you’re struggling to comprehend my words then perhaps what you need to do is calm down a bit and perhaps educate yourself a little.
Red 4 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
Brooking10 said:
Red 4 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
That even the very best of us can commit the very worst acts.
That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
You are not sticking up for McGreavy ?That almost every person who is sent to prison will one day be someone’s neighbour. Lots of very detailed research has shown if a person is treat with decency and like a human they will more likely become a decent human and conform to social norms.
Why say this then ?
Odd things to say considering the context ...
What part of that is sticking up for that dreadful man or in any way endorsing his crime ?
Salmonofdoubt - it's even harder to argue with people who clearly do not have the first idea what they are talking about (ie you).
We have differing views on the macro issue of CP that has been touched on and I have enjoyed discussing them with you.
In this case though I think the context is in your own mind and an unreasonable extrapolation of what Salmon has actually said.
Salmonofdoubt said:
Show me where exactly I stuck up for McGready or excused his actions?
Please do, because I know what I said and I stand by every word of it. If you’re struggling to comprehend my words then perhaps what you need to do is calm down a bit and perhaps educate yourself a little.
I'm perfectly calm, thanks.Please do, because I know what I said and I stand by every word of it. If you’re struggling to comprehend my words then perhaps what you need to do is calm down a bit and perhaps educate yourself a little.
Your words have no relevance to McGreavy so why post what you have in a thread about, er, McGreavy ?
You are suggesting that being "nice" to people can change their behaviour.
Prisons are not nice - are you suggesting everyone should be "rehabilitated" in the community, irrespective of their crime, in an "everyone is good really", hippy, right-on, love and peace type of way ?
I don't need to educate myself.
I've actually dealt with people like McGreavy.
I'm fully aware of what people are capable of - but there is usually a reason/ reasons for their behaviour.
Every so often though, you come across someone like this.
And they are the really scary ones.
Love and peace though, Dude, love and peace.
I'm sure you will sleep safer in your bed knowing people like McGreavy are very real and are out there.
Like I said - this thread is about McGreavy.
Your nonsense may have some (limited) merit if it is spouted elsewhere - although there are countless reasons why people reoffend.
Being " nice" to people just doesn't cut it.
Edited by Red 4 on Monday 17th December 11:55
dandarez said:
They never replied to your second letter ?? how strange ! lol.
I agree he should have been killed at the time, but as a society we decide against this so we must live with that choice and it`s ramifications, but preferably without tubes like you deciding they know whats best for all.
Off topic.I agree he should have been killed at the time, but as a society we decide against this so we must live with that choice and it`s ramifications, but preferably without tubes like you deciding they know whats best for all.
Do you have a 'special'
keyboard or keypad, I've noted with a lot of your posts there's something amiss with your apostrophes, which are in fact grave accents and a space. Weird! 
Edited by mogs.mod on Monday 17th December 09:14
Edited by mogs.mod on Monday 17th December 09:16
Actually I do have a bad habit on this laptop.
Hopefully it's going to get better now that it's been pointed out. lol.
Edited by Brads67 on Monday 17th December 20:05
Edited by Brads67 on Monday 17th December 20:06
Red 4 said:
Salmonofdoubt said:
Show me where exactly I stuck up for McGready or excused his actions?
Please do, because I know what I said and I stand by every word of it. If you’re struggling to comprehend my words then perhaps what you need to do is calm down a bit and perhaps educate yourself a little.
I'm perfectly calm, thanks.Please do, because I know what I said and I stand by every word of it. If you’re struggling to comprehend my words then perhaps what you need to do is calm down a bit and perhaps educate yourself a little.
Your words have no relevance to McGreavy so why post what you have in a thread about, er, McGreavy ?
You are suggesting that being "nice" to people can change their behaviour.
Prisons are not nice - are you suggesting everyone should be "rehabilitated" in the community, irrespective of their crime, in an "everyone is good really", hippy, right-on, love and peace type of way ?
I don't need to educate myself.
I've actually dealt with people like McGreavy.
I'm fully aware of what people are capable of - but there is usually a reason/ reasons for their behaviour.
Every so often though, you come across someone like this.
And they are the really scary ones.
Love and peace though, Dude, love and peace.
I'm sure you will sleep safer in your bed knowing people like McGreavy are very real and are out there.
Like I said - this thread is about McGreavy.
Your nonsense may have some (limited) merit if it is spouted elsewhere - although there are countless reasons why people reoffend.
Being " nice" to people just doesn't cut it.
Edited by Red 4 on Monday 17th December 11:55
Address what he actually said or have the grace to admit you were wrong.
Despite the delicious fantasy of him getting killed within 24 hours of getting out. The reality is nothing whatsoever will happen. He was in an open prison with regular day release over a decade ago and no-one offed him then. The best we can hope for is he finds himself unable to adjust on the outside and drinks a litre of anti-freeze.
I see the 'experts' have got it slightly wrong again.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...
A child killer in his teens and knew the family,evil b
d.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshi...
A child killer in his teens and knew the family,evil b
d.“A woman whose three children were murdered by the same man has been informed their killer has been released from prison.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-wor...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-wor...
Frankly I'd have been happy for him to get his neck stretched back then but 45 years seems a [ record breaking ? ]
appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
Cantaloupe said:
Frankly I'd have been happy for him to get his neck stretched back then but 45 years seems a [ record breaking ? ]
appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
No, I don't think so. But since what I believe he deserves and what I, opposing capital punishment, am in favour of the state dispensing to him already differ, perhaps that's irrelevant. I think for a crime of that magnitude he should die in prison.appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
Cantaloupe said:
Frankly I'd have been happy for him to get his neck stretched back then but 45 years seems a [ record breaking ? ]
appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
No. Its not like hes robbed a bank where you could remotely understand the reasoning behind his actions, Greed etc. He should be locked up in a secure institution until the end of his days, anyone who trusts this person should be ready to be disappointed very soon. appropriate length of time to serve especially if you are a believer that penal servitude should be not just be punishment
but also rehabilitation and a chance of redemption.
OK he not going to turn into Albert Schweitzer or Helen Keller, but is it just possible he deserves a second chance ?
When you read about the event, its pretty clear that it doesn't get any worse that this. How anyone is physically or mentally capable of such actions is beyond our comprehension.
In this instance, I would certainly prefer the Texas justice system to deal with such an open case.
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