tube drivers on 100k+

[valiant]

jakesmith said:

Tube drivers are allowed to take up to 5 days sick leave per quarter without it being looked at or requiring a doctor's note, so if they haven't been sick that quarter, in the last week they phone in sick every day. This is rife and totally common practice, so she tells me

She actually went on a holiday to Dubai in one of these quarterly 'sick weeks'

Again, nonsense spouted by your 'friend' and if true she'd better watch her back as its a slam dunk disciplinary if she fraudulently flouts the sickness procedure - drivers have been fired for less.

There is no 'sick week' per quarter. What rubbish! Actually, if you go sick twice within six months, you're on a 'level' (basically a warning - last anywhere between 26-52weeks - go sick again within this warning zone and your warning 'level' increases and you could be in a fair bit of bother).

Yes, there are a few who play the system, who know what to say to keep managers off their back but they are the minority and not very well liked as the rest have to cover their shifts.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

petemurphy said:

admittedly pretty grim to be underground all day but wtf

Unless you're on the Victoria Line, you're not underground all the time.

Most of this is down to Bob Crow. People knocked him but his actual job description was to do the best for his members, and he was very good at it.

[anonymous-user]

daily mail said:

Pilots serving as first officers receive between £36,000 to £48,000, while captains on medium-sized airlines start on between £57,000 and £78,000. Salaries at major carriers can rise above £140,000, according to careers site Prospects.

In my airline which isn’t the best paid the salaries are well above those quoted. That's without pension and flight pay and private health and travel concessions etc.

Then the tube driver salaries seem to be including all sorts of allowances.

I know nobody in my airline that has left to become a train driver except one ex steward.

[jakesmith]

valiant said:

Again, nonsense spouted by your 'friend' and if true she'd better watch her back as its a slam dunk disciplinary if she fraudulently flouts the sickness procedure - drivers have been fired for less.

There is no 'sick week' per quarter. What rubbish! Actually, if you go sick twice within six months, you're on a 'level' (basically a warning - last anywhere between 26-52weeks - go sick again within this warning zone and your warning 'level' increases and you could be in a fair bit of bother).

Yes, there are a few who play the system, who know what to say to keep managers off their back but they are the minority and not very well liked as the rest have to cover their shifts.

Hey I’m more than happy to be wrong and actually I’m glad if I am as I was pretty disgusted by it.

I took what I was told at face value as I couldn’t see any reason why she’d misrepresent the facts as it didn’t paint her or the union in a good light but there you go

Thinking about it with hindsight she is no longer employed by them so maybe had a axe to grind but I’m pretty disappointed that what she told me was a load of rubbish

Edited by jakesmith on Sunday 16th December 19:57

[nikaiyo2]

DurianIceCream said:

As a private pilot, I've seen many many people in the aviation industry and I can tell you now, all manner of people would give being an airline pilot a go for a lot less than the airline pilot salaries in that article. Would you want one of them flying you around? I didn't think so.

The pilot salaries also seem quite low btw.

I would not want a pilot flying because of the money at all, it is a very poor motivator, in my experience those who love flying make the best pilots and would do it for a lot less than they are paid.

[Europa1]

ericmcn said:

Crazy right, what's the average salary across London as a whole I wonder? Probably in or around 60 or 70k so these drivers doing sfa are still raking it in.

£60-70k average salary in London? You're hilarious.

[Tom Logan]

So, there are one man band IT throbbers on here whimpering because a 'lowly' train driver earns decent cash doing a job requiring total concentration and committment.

I wonder how many TfL underground workers are on here half the day spouting ste? Not many I would venture.

Pathetic.

[Thankyou4calling]

ericmcn said:

Crazy right, what's the average salary across London as a whole I wonder? Probably in or around 60 or 70k so these drivers doing sfa are still raking it in.

Average salary across London is less than £35k

[petemurphy]

Podie said:

So why link a Mail article?

Regardless, the point still stands. They’ve been disingenuous in the presentation of the figures. They are not on £100k salaries.

Cos you have to pay to read times articles! Yes most aren’t on 100k but what they’ are on seems high imho

[sparkythecat]

[Pesty]

Last year, the salary for a full-time driver was £52,972 a year, while night tube drivers earn £24,214 sine their position is part time.

During training, which lasts 12-16 weeks, trainee drivers earn £32,375 during their training,.

Drivers also get free travel around London for them and a partner, and can retire on a pension at the age of 50.

Overtime rates are around £36 an hour,


Drivers will typically work a 36-hour working week and have 43 days annual leave, including bank holidays.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tube-driver-sal...

I’d say that was pretty damn good. Perk like free travel for you and wife and the amount of holidays. What is there 8 or 9 bank holidays ?

Nice work if you can get it which of course you can’t despite the usual suspects telling you you can.
&36 an hour over time

Let’s see I get 28 days holiday and work around 20-25 hours a week overtime unpaid and have done for 12 years.

Retire at 50 how nice

Sign me up

[valiant]

You work 20-25 hrs overtime unpaid every week?

Mate, unless you own the business or are on some serious bonus scheme, you're been taken for a mug.

Ever thought of joining a union?

[Fittster]

Why the outrage about tube driver pay? I don't see threads on PH regularly attacking the compensation of middle and higher management in private companies.

[V8 Fettler]

Victoria Line has been driverless for 50 years, does the LUL employee who pushes the buttons to operate the doors earn less than the proper drivers on the other lines?

[J4CKO]

Why shouldnt people earn decent money ?

The Tube system is massively busy and I expect it makes money, plenty of people in London making six figures plus into the millions ?

Its a responsible job, I cant imagine its that hard if the training is sixteen weeks but with responsibility comes a decent wage, I am sure given half a chance some private company would take over and pay 18k per year and just give the job to anyone, then wonder why they dont turn in or dont give a st.

[V8 Fettler]

J4CKO said:

Why shouldnt people earn decent money ?

The Tube system is massively busy and I expect it makes money, plenty of people in London making six figures plus into the millions ?

Its a responsible job, I cant imagine its that hard if the training is sixteen weeks but with responsibility comes a decent wage, I am sure given half a chance some private company would take over and pay 18k per year and just give the job to anyone, then wonder why they dont turn in or dont give a st.

Are you describing striking tube drivers?

[jakesmith]

Tom Logan said:

I wonder how many TfL underground workers are on here half the day spouting ste? Not many I would venture.

Pathetic.

Cell reception though

[johnxjsc1985]

Bus Drivers have to deal directly with the public navigate all sorts of traffic hazards and earn about 30% of this and I think they have the more difficult job

[Welshbeef]

Is it just me that would actually want a highly competent -tune driver responsible for the lives of hundreds/thousands of passengers.

I’d rather higher salary for good skilled individuals to ensure my and others safe travel.

[johnxjsc1985]

Welshbeef said:

Is it just me that would actually want a highly competent -tune driver responsible for the lives of hundreds/thousands of passengers.

I’d rather higher salary for good skilled individuals to ensure my and others safe travel.

he drives one way in a controlled environment have you see what Bus drivers have to put up with