tube drivers on 100k+
Discussion
Fittster said:
Why the outrage about tube driver pay? I don't see threads on PH regularly attacking the compensation of middle and higher management in private companies.
I've seen a few about FTSE companies but the OP is normally shouted down by a chorus of people explaining that it is none of their business what a company pays, and besides, you need to pay loads to get the best candidates, not to mention the fact that their share prices have risen - blah jealousy, blah politics of envy, blah communist.I think that on here a lot of people are happy with their position in the system. They're entirely content with those they see as superior earning bucket loads of cash but when someone they see as lower status like a tube driver or a plumber earns decent money, they bloody hate it.
chow pan toon said:
I think that on here a lot of people are happy with their position in the system. They're entirely content with those they see as superior earning bucket loads of cash but when someone they see as lower status like a tube driver or a plumber earns decent money, they bloody hate it.
Don't start them on footballer's pay, that's when they really blow a fuse, some 19 y/o kid off the council estate earning 50 times what they do. TwigtheWonderkid said:
Don't start them on footballer's pay, that's when they really blow a fuse, some 19 y/o kid off the council estate earning 50 times what they do.
The difference is what??? Come on I'm sure you can think of what it is......
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Has it dawned on you yet?
That's right it's not the tax-payer stumping up the bill nor is it a public service
chow pan toon said:
I think that on here a lot of people are happy with their position in the system. They're entirely content with those they see as superior earning bucket loads of cash but when someone they see as lower status like a tube driver or a plumber earns decent money, they bloody hate it.
Yup. Nobody likes being ripped off by paying a high price for a lower value service, whether it be a big corporate name, a big union, a civil servant, or something that plumber you mention did (or didn't do).
TwigtheWonderkid said:
irocfan said:
So "just" £55k for a job a monkey could do and retire at 60 (50 if you can cope with less money).
On the one hand f
k crowe/his successor (& serwotka/mcclusky at al). On the other they're there to get the best for their members - which they seem to do. Regrettably Maggie didn't finish the job. 
Yes, perish the thought that normal working people should earn a decent wage.On the one hand f
k crowe/his successor (& serwotka/mcclusky at al). On the other they're there to get the best for their members - which they seem to do. Regrettably Maggie didn't finish the job. Maybe tube workers don't earn too much at all. Perhaps we just don't realise that many people earn too little. Even when working for hugely profitable organisations.
chunder27 said:
in this day and age, its absurd, put simply.
In this day and age... Of hard working Brits making pennies on the pound and the profits of their labours getting swallowed up by upper management or going overseas.The only shame here is that in the case of the tube drivers they are having their cake at the expense of a public entitity. This country wouldn't be in the bleak situation it is today if more working people could better dictate the worth of their labours.
irocfan said:
That's right it's not the tax-payer stumping up the bill nor is it a public service
The tube isn't funded by taxpayers either, it's funded by travellers and advertisers. And as a public service, it's probably better than it's ever been, despite staff being well paid. Maybe because staff are well paid. caelite said:
This country wouldn't be in the bleak situation it is today if more working people could better dictate the worth of their labours.
They can. If you don't like the pay, quit and get another job. If you haven't got skills that anyone wants to pay for, get some new skills.ATG said:
They can. If you don't like the pay, quit and get another job. If you haven't got skills that anyone wants to pay for, get some new skills.
yep, i think that's what a lot of tube drivers did 
. can't believe some of the comments on here(not yours) ,and the tube apparently runs at a profit that is reinvested. more uk businesses should try that,and training as well. remind me how much our gloriously competent leaders in parliament earn ? total cost to the public purse including expenses,pension etc, same rules as the sensationalist headline that lead to this topic.chow pan toon said:
Fittster said:
Why the outrage about tube driver pay? I don't see threads on PH regularly attacking the compensation of middle and higher management in private companies.
I've seen a few about FTSE companies but the OP is normally shouted down by a chorus of people explaining that it is none of their business what a company pays, and besides, you need to pay loads to get the best candidates, not to mention the fact that their share prices have risen - blah jealousy, blah politics of envy, blah communist.I think that on here a lot of people are happy with their position in the system. They're entirely content with those they see as superior earning bucket loads of cash but when someone they see as lower status like a tube driver or a plumber earns decent money, they bloody hate it.
Train drivers leverage the fact it's not a free market to push their wages higher and higher. In a free market they would.not earn what they earn now. Not would they all walk out of work when a mate fails a drugs test 3 times.
It is incredible in this age of multi-channel news delivery that the hard of thinking on here get their brine boiled, by the right wing, millionaire owned st rags, Mail/Express/Sun.
The owners dictate who the bogey man is you all spout it all as truth.
If it is not immigrants, Muslims, single mothers, junior doctors, teachers, the homeless – it’s the train drivers. People you have been told to get angry at.
This story is pure tosh. ALL TFL drivers are on £52.950 basic with minimum OT, but don’t let the facts get in way of kicking someone who you perceive to be ‘beneath’ you. Also, must people complaining about unions are the people getting fked over by their bosses because they don’t have a union.
Pure Gammon bait and you all took it.
t rags, Mail/Express/Sun.The owners dictate who the bogey man is you all spout it all as truth.
If it is not immigrants, Muslims, single mothers, junior doctors, teachers, the homeless – it’s the train drivers. People you have been told to get angry at.
This story is pure tosh. ALL TFL drivers are on £52.950 basic with minimum OT, but don’t let the facts get in way of kicking someone who you perceive to be ‘beneath’ you. Also, must people complaining about unions are the people getting f
ked over by their bosses because they don’t have a union.Pure Gammon bait and you all took it.
El stovey said:
daily mail said:
Pilots serving as first officers receive between £36,000 to £48,000, while captains on medium-sized airlines start on between £57,000 and £78,000. Salaries at major carriers can rise above £140,000, according to careers site Prospects.
In my airline which isn’t the best paid the salaries are well above those quoted. That's without pension and flight pay and private health and travel concessions etc. Then the tube driver salaries seem to be including all sorts of allowances.
I know nobody in my airline that has left to become a train driver except one ex steward.
Jobs are advertised to all but generally go to people within the organization like platform staff. Only fair I guess.
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