60% of French speed cameras "knocked out."

[eldar]

An interesting tactic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472

[JagLover]

eldar said:

An interesting tactic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46822472

Good on them

[Jasandjules]

There was a story I heard (not sure how true it is) that in Texas somewhere about half a dozen cameras went up one day. The next day the cameras appeared to have suffered a midnight bullet/lens interaction........ They didn't put up any others...

[Cold]

I've every expectation that there will be a corresponding 60% increase in KSI incidents now.

[Repel_Max]

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

[anonymous-user]

Heroes! Ignore the Brake member (above)...

[Boosted LS1]

^ Well said. Brake and Mumsnet a similar breed.

[Crackie]

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Please could you could post up some evidence to show that speed cameras have been effective at reducing KSI injuries in the UK. Data for the last decade please rather than just brief snapshot .....hopefully your data will be also be corrected to take account of the significant improvements in vehicle safety which will skew the figures to the benefit of cameras.
Thank you in advance.

Only you could conclude Way-Hey! about news regarding the introduction of 6000 clandestine machines designed to generate money for the state rather than actually improve safety outcomes.

Edited by Crackie on Friday 11th January 10:45

[amusingduck]

Cold said:

I've every expectation that there will be a corresponding 60% increase in KSI incidents now.

[smifffymoto]

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

[smifffymoto]

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

[Pvapour]

smifffymoto said:

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

Agreed, its nice to actually see a nation unite and stand up for themselves, sends out a very clear message for the powers to be.

If the uk had done the same many many years ago then it wouldnt have half the problems it does.

[Four Litre]

Pvapour said:

smifffymoto said:

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

Agreed, its nice to actually see a nation unite and stand up for themselves, sends out a very clear message for the powers to be.

If the uk had done the same many many years ago then it wouldnt have half the problems it does.

My thoughts entirely, we get taken to the cleaners in the UK and accept it all. Could take a note out of their book....

[oyster]

smifffymoto said:

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

What hardship are they being caused by a speed camera?

Fuel can't be too expensive if they can afford to pass speed cameras above the limit as that would suggest they aren't driving as fuel efficiently as possible.

Unless it's only cameras in slower urban areas with lower limits that are being destroyed so that road users can maintain a higher speed. Purely to save fuel though, not for any other reason.

[oyster]

Four Litre said:

Pvapour said:

smifffymoto said:

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

Agreed, its nice to actually see a nation unite and stand up for themselves, sends out a very clear message for the powers to be.

If the uk had done the same many many years ago then it wouldnt have half the problems it does.

My thoughts entirely, we get taken to the cleaners in the UK and accept it all. Could take a note out of their book....

We live in just about the free-est place in the world. Our lives are a piece of piss in relative terms.

What on earth do we need to protest about??

[zygalski]

If the cameras in the UK were removed tomorrow, I assume nobody here would complain about a corresponding hike in income or pensions taxes to make up the shortfall in funding?

[Wobbegong]

smifffymoto said:

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

Well,the thugs you speak of are my neighbours,their friends,generally the man on the street.They are not thugs,they are fed up,hard working people,that are sick of being dictated to by politicians in Paris,that understand very little of the hardships they face.

This has been building for a number of years. When I lived in the Charente there was a lot of hate for Paris and government due to the way they were forgotten (apart from taxes )

[Rovinghawk]

zygalski said:

If the cameras in the UK were removed tomorrow, I assume nobody here would complain about a corresponding hike in income or pensions taxes to make up the shortfall in funding?

Funding for what, exactly?

We are often told that the cameras aren't there to make a profit & every penny is ploughed back into the speed camera cartels.

Edited by Rovinghawk on Friday 11th January 16:08

[Crackie]

zygalski said:

If the cameras in the UK were removed tomorrow, I assume nobody here would complain about a corresponding hike in income or pensions taxes to make up the shortfall in funding?

If there were no cameras why would there be a shortfall in funding? What would need funding if the cameras were removed?

Currently 2 million speeding offences a year...……..half take the SAC option. Approx £100 for a SAC course on average so £100 million income from SACs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/10/25/record...

[eldar]

Repel_Max said:

The French were in a program to remove the fixed systems anyway. They are moving to unmarked and largely undetectable and unpredictable mobile units.

See: https://anglophone-direct.com/french-mobile-speed-...

So well done the yellow jacketed thugs. I expect the total number of hidden mobile units will quickly increase from 6,000 to many-many more. Way-Hey!

You miss the point. Speed camera sabotage is just a small tactic of the protest movement. The government can choose to ignore the protest and fight it, or listen and make the speed/revenue/priority argument more transparent and publicly acceptable.

Ignore the protests and act spitefully probably isn't a vote winner overall.