How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 7)
Discussion
Tuna said:
Ghibli said:
It was a childish pathetic comment directed at Helicopter123 that adds nothing to the Brexit discussion. E.g. Trolling.
You really want to defend someone who actively supports acts of terrorism if they're justified by their own beliefs?Helicopter123 said:
One mans terrorist is another’s freedom fighter after all.
In the light of the recent comments, besides the fact it was completely hypocritical, that was in very bad taste don't you think? And no, I didn't insult him, I suggested he hadn't actually thought about what he was saying when he flat out contradicted himself almost within the same page on this forum.Yet more senseless trolling.
Perhaps Brexit negotiations would have progressed better if supporters had engaged positively in the process instead of blaming the 48%.
Tuna said:
As an aside, I'm less and less impressed by Grieve's "well meaning lawyer" act.
OK, I get that he absolutely wants to Remain, but has decided to tread a line where whatever he's currently up to is "in the nation's interest". That's fair enough, and I'm sure some people will swallow it whole.
What's more concerning is that the unintended consequences of his actions - by trying to force parliamentary procedure, by any means he can grab hold of, he's only succeeding in making more of a mess of the whole process. These aren't the actions of a smart person who means well, these are the actions of someone who will lie to your face whilst punching holes in the boat you're both in.
The subtle difference here is between people who want to debate and make a case for 'their kind of brexit' and those who have no intention of respecting anyone's views but their own. It's nice that he puts on a suit and talks quietly, but he's reckless and desperate, and that's not something you want to be standing next to, whichever side you're on.
I guess that that more Remainers will become ever more 'reckless and desperate' as we near 29th March.OK, I get that he absolutely wants to Remain, but has decided to tread a line where whatever he's currently up to is "in the nation's interest". That's fair enough, and I'm sure some people will swallow it whole.
What's more concerning is that the unintended consequences of his actions - by trying to force parliamentary procedure, by any means he can grab hold of, he's only succeeding in making more of a mess of the whole process. These aren't the actions of a smart person who means well, these are the actions of someone who will lie to your face whilst punching holes in the boat you're both in.
The subtle difference here is between people who want to debate and make a case for 'their kind of brexit' and those who have no intention of respecting anyone's views but their own. It's nice that he puts on a suit and talks quietly, but he's reckless and desperate, and that's not something you want to be standing next to, whichever side you're on.
Ghibli said:
Tony427 said:
Not totally correct as the uncertainty definitely is project fea r and businesses are indeed making provisions, and some should actually be aiming to gain competitive advantage from that uncertainty. I know I hope to.
Wherever there is uncertainty there is a margin to be had.
I would be somewhat surprised if there is not already an options market on cross channel ferries or chunnel freight places. I go long on Newhaven Dieppe and Short on Dover Calais.
Keep the hysteria up re channel port lorry queues and there could be lots of money to be made.
Cheers,
Tony
So you are making provisions for project fear which isn't going to happen to give yourself a competitive edge when nothing happens.Wherever there is uncertainty there is a margin to be had.
I would be somewhat surprised if there is not already an options market on cross channel ferries or chunnel freight places. I go long on Newhaven Dieppe and Short on Dover Calais.
Keep the hysteria up re channel port lorry queues and there could be lots of money to be made.
Cheers,
Tony
Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
pingu393 said:
He's already explained that he is quids in, either way.
Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
It sounds like he sold some scrap and let someone store stock in his unit. It's a shame he couldn't have done that without Brexit.Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
Ghibli said:
pingu393 said:
He's already explained that he is quids in, either way.
Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
It sounds like he sold some scrap and let someone store stock in his unit. It's a shame he couldn't have done that without Brexit.Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
Ghibli said:
pingu393 said:
He's already explained that he is quids in, either way.
Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
It sounds like he sold some scrap and let someone store stock in his unit. It's a shame he couldn't have done that without Brexit.Tell me Ghibli, if you buy some de-icer, do you consider it wasted money if you never use it?
From the way you "speak", it sounds like you don't buy any until the car is frozen.
It's OK to ask for help.
Tony427 said:
And that is Remain in a nutshell............intellectually bereft resorting to personal attacks.
Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
You have sold some scrap and you have let someone store some stock in your unit.Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
All in the name of Brexit when apparently nothing is going to happen. It will be a great plan if something does happen but apparently it's all project fear.
Ghibli said:
You have sold some scrap and you have let someone store some stock in your unit.
All in the name of Brexit when apparently nothing is going to happen. It will be a great plan if something does happen but apparently it's all project fear.
It's good ,but nevertheless surprising, that you haven't been taken in by the propaganda All in the name of Brexit when apparently nothing is going to happen. It will be a great plan if something does happen but apparently it's all project fear.
put out by some Remainers.
Well done you.
r
Ghibli said:
Tony427 said:
And that is Remain in a nutshell............intellectually bereft resorting to personal attacks.
Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
You have sold some scrap and you have let someone store some stock in your unit.Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
All in the name of Brexit when apparently nothing is going to happen. It will be a great plan if something does happen but apparently it's all project fear.
Vanden Saab said:
It is a great plan in any case as he can supply his customers regardless of any non-Brexit related problems and advertise that he has the product "in stock". at almost negligible cost. I can understand why you cannot see that though.
What non Brexit related problems are you talking about and why is it being discussed in a Brexit thread?jsf said:
Have you been proactive and contacted your clients to offer the service?
If you have, what did they say to you?
Yes we have emailed clients where we feel it would be advantageous to them to automate the switch over and we have a document ready to send out explaining what changes need to be made to manually switch over a customer\suppler from EU to rest of the world ; How to create export paperwork etc.If you have, what did they say to you?
The software can cope with changing prices and currency at a specific date in the future but we never envisaged a requirement to do this for VAT so all the changes will have to happen very close to the 29th of March.
So far there has been no responses to the email sent out in December after it was pretty obvious that May wouldn't get her deal through.
mx5nut said:
Helicopter123 said:
Perhaps Brexit negotiations would have progressed better if supporters had engaged positively in the process instead of blaming the 48%.
Who cares? You lost, get over it. Somebody else will sort it out now.
GroundEffect said:
Tony427 said:
And that is Remain in a nutshell............intellectually bereft resorting to personal attacks.
Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
Of course, you would never be so delinquent to resort to the same thing you accuse of others. Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
Licks pencil ..........
Tony427 said:
GroundEffect said:
Tony427 said:
And that is Remain in a nutshell............intellectually bereft resorting to personal attacks.
Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
Of course, you would never be so delinquent to resort to the same thing you accuse of others. Time to add you to all the other Trolls ...........
Licks pencil ..........
Earthdweller said:
Listening to the radio and reading the papers here in the ROI today and over the last few days
I was struck by a very different tone from the commentators
Firstly Coveney is now talking cross party and cross border which a sign of reality and positive
The view it seems, is a worry about just how hard Ireland will be affected, and the concern that Ireland has pushed too hard on the backstop issue
One commentator said it’s not infeasable that the EU might cut the ROI adrift if it looks like the backstop is going to put 3/4 million German workers out of jobs
Reference was made to the sheer amount of trade the ROI does with the UK and the very small amount it does with the rest of the EU
It was pointed out that the ROI wanted to join the common market through the 60’s but couldn’t until the UK decided to in the 70’s as it would have crippled the ROI to join without the UK being in
I got the tone from the various sources that the mood is changing and it is felt that the need to be good neighbours with your best friend and business partner is greater than cosying up to distant acquaintances who you have little in common with and don’t trade with. One said a well kept fence is a key to good neighbourly relations
Interesting times
Interesting. What does the bit which I've bolded mean in practice ?I was struck by a very different tone from the commentators
Firstly Coveney is now talking cross party and cross border which a sign of reality and positive
The view it seems, is a worry about just how hard Ireland will be affected, and the concern that Ireland has pushed too hard on the backstop issue
One commentator said it’s not infeasable that the EU might cut the ROI adrift if it looks like the backstop is going to put 3/4 million German workers out of jobs
Reference was made to the sheer amount of trade the ROI does with the UK and the very small amount it does with the rest of the EU
It was pointed out that the ROI wanted to join the common market through the 60’s but couldn’t until the UK decided to in the 70’s as it would have crippled the ROI to join without the UK being in
I got the tone from the various sources that the mood is changing and it is felt that the need to be good neighbours with your best friend and business partner is greater than cosying up to distant acquaintances who you have little in common with and don’t trade with. One said a well kept fence is a key to good neighbourly relations
Interesting times
gothatway said:
Earthdweller said:
Listening to the radio and reading the papers here in the ROI today and over the last few days
I was struck by a very different tone from the commentators
Firstly Coveney is now talking cross party and cross border which a sign of reality and positive
The view it seems, is a worry about just how hard Ireland will be affected, and the concern that Ireland has pushed too hard on the backstop issue
One commentator said it’s not infeasable that the EU might cut the ROI adrift if it looks like the backstop is going to put 3/4 million German workers out of jobs
Reference was made to the sheer amount of trade the ROI does with the UK and the very small amount it does with the rest of the EU
It was pointed out that the ROI wanted to join the common market through the 60’s but couldn’t until the UK decided to in the 70’s as it would have crippled the ROI to join without the UK being in
I got the tone from the various sources that the mood is changing and it is felt that the need to be good neighbours with your best friend and business partner is greater than cosying up to distant acquaintances who you have little in common with and don’t trade with. One said a well kept fence is a key to good neighbourly relations
Interesting times
Interesting. What does the bit which I've bolded mean in practice ?I was struck by a very different tone from the commentators
Firstly Coveney is now talking cross party and cross border which a sign of reality and positive
The view it seems, is a worry about just how hard Ireland will be affected, and the concern that Ireland has pushed too hard on the backstop issue
One commentator said it’s not infeasable that the EU might cut the ROI adrift if it looks like the backstop is going to put 3/4 million German workers out of jobs
Reference was made to the sheer amount of trade the ROI does with the UK and the very small amount it does with the rest of the EU
It was pointed out that the ROI wanted to join the common market through the 60’s but couldn’t until the UK decided to in the 70’s as it would have crippled the ROI to join without the UK being in
I got the tone from the various sources that the mood is changing and it is felt that the need to be good neighbours with your best friend and business partner is greater than cosying up to distant acquaintances who you have little in common with and don’t trade with. One said a well kept fence is a key to good neighbourly relations
Interesting times
Ireland has said already to the EU that it will need billions in aid in the event of a hard brexit
They are worried that the EU will put millions of German/French jobs over the concerns of the Irish
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