Gillette get political...

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otolith

56,499 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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glazbagun said:
For an advert done right, here's an awesome one (also by Proctor & Gamble) that doesn't have a fraction of the views caused by upsetting people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwFso7NeuA
From one set of nutters - What about the dads, clearly this is an attack by the feminazis on men blah blah blah

From another - How dare you imply that raising children is women's work blah blah blah

j_4m

1,574 posts

65 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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otolith said:
glazbagun said:
For an advert done right, here's an awesome one (also by Proctor & Gamble) that doesn't have a fraction of the views caused by upsetting people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwFso7NeuA
From one set of nutters - What about the dads, clearly this is an attack by the feminazis on men blah blah blah

From another - How dare you imply that raising children is women's work blah blah blah
From yet another - Are you suggesting that raising children isn't hard work?

otolith

56,499 posts

205 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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j_4m said:
otolith said:
glazbagun said:
For an advert done right, here's an awesome one (also by Proctor & Gamble) that doesn't have a fraction of the views caused by upsetting people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwFso7NeuA
From one set of nutters - What about the dads, clearly this is an attack by the feminazis on men blah blah blah

From another - How dare you imply that raising children is women's work blah blah blah
From yet another - Are you suggesting that raising children isn't hard work?
I think they missed a trick in failing to include any apple pie.

amusingduck

9,398 posts

137 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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otolith said:
glazbagun said:
For an advert done right, here's an awesome one (also by Proctor & Gamble) that doesn't have a fraction of the views caused by upsetting people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwFso7NeuA
From one set of nutters - What about the dads, clearly this is an attack by the feminazis on men blah blah blah

From another - How dare you imply that raising children is women's work blah blah blah
It's a fantastic advert, though I wished they'd included this tagline at the end

Some Moms are Good Moms

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it's only a joke

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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amusingduck said:
otolith said:
glazbagun said:
For an advert done right, here's an awesome one (also by Proctor & Gamble) that doesn't have a fraction of the views caused by upsetting people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwFso7NeuA
From one set of nutters - What about the dads, clearly this is an attack by the feminazis on men blah blah blah

From another - How dare you imply that raising children is women's work blah blah blah
It's a fantastic advert, though I wished they'd included this tagline at the end

Some Moms are Good Moms

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it's only a joke
That actually sums up the difference quite well thumbup

Randy Winkman

16,357 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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poo at Paul's said:
chrispmartha said:
Speaking of Youtube comments, this Adam Buxton vid (and similar) are excellent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVXKM_-mE8A
He is very funny doing that stuff!!
I agree. And it's not that different from PH.

neil1jnr

1,462 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Funk said:
neil1jnr said:
London424 said:
Evanivitch said:
fblm said:
It was about selling more razors.
Is it? Gillette and Proctor and Gamble both appear to be doing well as businesses, in those the people in power have the space to do something a bit different.

Not all corporate performance targets are "make more money".
I'm afraid you're living in an alternate reality if you don't think that is that case!

You take any of those companies and in every single one I can guarantee that there will be a revenue growth/margin growth/TSR performance/EPS target in place.
You are wrong on this occasion. Maybe Gillette themselves thought that the ad would indirectly lead to more sales, but just look at the women who directed and produced the advert, their political agenda and spreading this bullst has come first and foremost.

Kim Gehrig, director and Sally Campbell, the founder of the production company that made it.
Campbell supports Labour and voted for Diane Abbott which instantly tells me what I need to know.
Diane Abbott. The Labour party. Not surprised at all! Does Diane suffer from a developmental disorder or some sort of intellectual disability? Genuinely interested to know.

Turn7

23,717 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Feck 'em, Ive been using Feathers for the last 6 years - sharper and waay cheaper...

otolith

56,499 posts

205 months

Woody John

759 posts

74 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Shocking advert. Get woke, go broke.

Gillette, a'm oot.

Randy Winkman

16,357 posts

190 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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otolith said:
"Broflake". biggrin Love it.

Not-The-Messiah

3,622 posts

82 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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otolith said:
I don't get it, are they saying that incels are the ones complaining about this video?

Incels are exactly what you end up with if you follow this mantra attacking masculinity. Sad lowconfident guys who women find totally unattractive. To scared to even approach the opposite sex because that's seen as lychee and creepy.

Incels don't suffer from toxic masculinity the exact opposite.

Russian Troll Bot

25,015 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
otolith said:
I don't get it, are they saying that incels are the ones complaining about this video?

Incels are exactly what you end up with if you follow this mantra attacking masculinity. Sad lowconfident guys who women find totally unattractive. To scared to even approach the opposite sex because that's seen as lychee and creepy.

Incels don't suffer from toxic masculinity the exact opposite.
Interesting how that is the default line of attack as well. Oh you disagree with the points raised? Only a complete loser who is too ugly for women to sleep with would possibly think that way.

j_4m

1,574 posts

65 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Turn7 said:
Feck 'em, Ive been using Feathers for the last 6 years - sharper and waay cheaper...
Fellow Feather user here, best blades I've used! Israeli Made are a close second.

Turn7

23,717 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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j_4m said:
Turn7 said:
Feck 'em, Ive been using Feathers for the last 6 years - sharper and waay cheaper...
Fellow Feather user here, best blades I've used! Israeli Made are a close second.
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Hated Personna's btw

glazbagun

14,299 posts

198 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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j_4m said:
Turn7 said:
Feck 'em, Ive been using Feathers for the last 6 years - sharper and waay cheaper...
Fellow Feather user here, best blades I've used! Israeli Made are a close second.
+2. Buy a year supply that usually ends up lasting 2 years and costing pennies. Great discovery.

steveatesh

4,903 posts

165 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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“So the company that now wants to lecture men on how to treat women was quite happy hiring a woman who delights in attacking women for everything from their weight and addiction issues to self-harming.”


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6599957/P...

2xChevrons

3,266 posts

81 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Not-The-Messiah said:
I don't get it, are they saying that incels are the ones complaining about this video?

Incels are exactly what you end up with if you follow this mantra attacking masculinity. Sad lowconfident guys who women find totally unattractive. To scared to even approach the opposite sex because that's seen as lychee and creepy.

Incels don't suffer from toxic masculinity the exact opposite.
Nonsense. While incels seem to suffer from actual mental illnesses (mostly undiagnosed clinical depression and some sort of body dysmorphia) the ideology they've constructed to deal with it pure, concentrated, turned-up-11 toxic masculinity. As seen in their sense of entitlement to sex from women just by virtue of being men (and their sense of rage when this is 'denied' to them), the way they put such a great stock on promiscuity and sexual conquest (and their sense of failure that they aren't measuring up to their own warped standards), the way they ideolise a very narrow and traditional 'ideal male' body type/appearance and become seething balls of hate because they don't look like that. It can be seen in their sense of worthlessness because they don't have good jobs and feel they're not seen as 'good providers'. And it can be seen in their raging misogyny. These aren't shrinking violets who are too scared to approach women in case they're seen as creepy - these are people who often deliberately harass or stalk women in public to instil fear in them or to 'punish' them. These are people who construct elaborate rape fantasies and suggest that the government should force women to sleep with them.

They have committed entirely to a completely exaggerated idea of traditional masculinity (the rugged, lantern-jawed, strong manly-man who rakes in the money while living it up pursuing and sleeping with a procession of beautiful women before marrying a subservient hottie who will keep house for him and his children), mostly because they don't leave the house and get all their socialisation and cultural mores from movies, sitcoms and porn. They then feel like failures for not measuring up to that standard and, because they've been pumped full of entitlement, feel angry that they've been cheated of what they're 'owed'. In response they lash out against society and, especially, women.

It's like a perfect, taken-to-the-extreme case study of toxic masculinity. The 'toxic' bit being that it harms the very men who subscribe to it more than anyone else, because they have no other way of viewing the world and their role in it.

I absolutely don't agree that it's primarily incels who are criticising the Gillette advert, but to say that inceldom is the 'exact opposite' of toxic masculinity and is caused by social progress is just so, so wrong.


poo at Paul's

14,187 posts

176 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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steveatesh said:
“So the company that now wants to lecture men on how to treat women was quite happy hiring a woman who delights in attacking women for everything from their weight and addiction issues to self-harming.”


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6599957/P...
Tough Paperound since her Sports Illustrated days!

Russian Troll Bot

25,015 posts

228 months

Wednesday 16th January 2019
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Although at least they never sexually objectified women.............