Parking Ticket - Notice of Enforcement
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Hi Guys,
Hoping you can help and offer advice here.
I received a 'Notice of Enforcement' from the local council today, saying that I owe them £188.00 for an unpaid parking ticket. Apparently it's for parking in a disabled bay with no disabled badge from back in July last year, now I have never parked in a disabled bay, never had a parking ticket left in the car in question and I haven't seen any forms of communication to me until this letter showed up.
So I have just had a phone call with the council and they said that on their notes there was no parking ticket put on the car and no photo's taken as I left before the traffic warden got a chance to put one on the car or take a photo of the car(sounds iffy to me). However, they also said I'm too late to contest and have to pay before they take further measures to collect.
Am I stuffed here? I just feel it's a little unfair as I had no ticket and despite what they say, I have seen no letters, just a demand for £188.00.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Marc
Hoping you can help and offer advice here.
I received a 'Notice of Enforcement' from the local council today, saying that I owe them £188.00 for an unpaid parking ticket. Apparently it's for parking in a disabled bay with no disabled badge from back in July last year, now I have never parked in a disabled bay, never had a parking ticket left in the car in question and I haven't seen any forms of communication to me until this letter showed up.
So I have just had a phone call with the council and they said that on their notes there was no parking ticket put on the car and no photo's taken as I left before the traffic warden got a chance to put one on the car or take a photo of the car(sounds iffy to me). However, they also said I'm too late to contest and have to pay before they take further measures to collect.
Am I stuffed here? I just feel it's a little unfair as I had no ticket and despite what they say, I have seen no letters, just a demand for £188.00.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Marc
IANAL but I'd bet they have clear procedures to follow about issuing parking tickets, appeals, escalation of charges. No ticket, no photo, no initial letter, no opportunity to appeal. Doesn't sound like they've followed any of them. Makes the whole thing suspect.
I'd be right onto the phone again and ask to have it brought back to the appeals stage and hope they're reasonable. (just to add, do continue to deny you ever parked in a disabled space and perhaps suggest that in the Warden's haste to jot down a number they have made an error)
I'd be right onto the phone again and ask to have it brought back to the appeals stage and hope they're reasonable. (just to add, do continue to deny you ever parked in a disabled space and perhaps suggest that in the Warden's haste to jot down a number they have made an error)
Edited by Oldandslow on Wednesday 16th January 17:55
Tell them you’ve never heard anything so full of holes in all your life. Ask them to pursue it if they wish but you will claim your costs from them (I’m sure you earn £100hr).
Further arguments - what if your plates had been cloned. Does the description of your car actually match?
Do they have a description of the ‘insert your choice here’ polka dots, racing number, accident damage which would have been a significant identifier.
You don’t need to abide by their rules as you weren’t there! They’re trying it on don’t be bullied.
Further arguments - what if your plates had been cloned. Does the description of your car actually match?
Do they have a description of the ‘insert your choice here’ polka dots, racing number, accident damage which would have been a significant identifier.
You don’t need to abide by their rules as you weren’t there! They’re trying it on don’t be bullied.
On the document that you have received, there should be an option to complete a Statutory Declaration (called a PE3 form) for a selected few reasons., one of which is having never received the original PCN.
If you do not have the document, you can download it from here, and if it is too late you can try to file a PE2 - Out of Time Stat Dec, although it is somewhat discretionary as to whether this is accepted or not - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pe...
Get this rubber stamped at your local court or friendly solicitor, send it back to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton, and it will reset the process, allowing you to open up a new appeal when the re-issued PCN arrives,
At this point you can ask for the evidence (if any exists) that the ticket was issued correctly - from experience, a lot of CEOs have body-cameras for their own safety, but also for any contentious issues like the one you described that can also be saved for later viewing.
It may be worth looking back through your Google or Apple timeline to prove your whereabouts at the time of the event. I've dealt with a couple of similar issues where our vehicle has received a "driven away" ticket, (and double dip ANPR parking tickets) where the issuer has accepted a printed copy of the days timeline as evidence.
If you do not have the document, you can download it from here, and if it is too late you can try to file a PE2 - Out of Time Stat Dec, although it is somewhat discretionary as to whether this is accepted or not - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pe...
Get this rubber stamped at your local court or friendly solicitor, send it back to the Traffic Enforcement Centre at Northampton, and it will reset the process, allowing you to open up a new appeal when the re-issued PCN arrives,
At this point you can ask for the evidence (if any exists) that the ticket was issued correctly - from experience, a lot of CEOs have body-cameras for their own safety, but also for any contentious issues like the one you described that can also be saved for later viewing.
It may be worth looking back through your Google or Apple timeline to prove your whereabouts at the time of the event. I've dealt with a couple of similar issues where our vehicle has received a "driven away" ticket, (and double dip ANPR parking tickets) where the issuer has accepted a printed copy of the days timeline as evidence.
elanfan said:
Tell them you’ve never heard anything so full of holes in all your life. Ask them to pursue it if they wish but you will claim your costs from them (I’m sure you earn £100hr).
Further arguments - what if your plates had been cloned. Does the description of your car actually match?
Do they have a description of the ‘insert your choice here’ polka dots, racing number, accident damage which would have been a significant identifier.
You don’t need to abide by their rules as you weren’t there! They’re trying it on don’t be bullied.
I've seen parking enforcement officers taking photos of the inside of a car as they ticket it - I'm guessing they do so in order to identify a car specifically in the event of a dispute. I'd be with the responses above in show me the photographic evidence. Good luck with this.Further arguments - what if your plates had been cloned. Does the description of your car actually match?
Do they have a description of the ‘insert your choice here’ polka dots, racing number, accident damage which would have been a significant identifier.
You don’t need to abide by their rules as you weren’t there! They’re trying it on don’t be bullied.
Mrc- photos of inside of car will prove that a blue badge was /was not displayed on a seat inside the vehicle. I've recently had a ticked overturned on the grounds that a blue badge was on the passenger seat ( I didn't say whether or not it was in view ), but the LA only had photos of the outside of my vehicle , so they had no proof of a badge existing. That was their fault in trying to prove that the ticketed vehicle was as per ticket, they failed to disprove the existance of a badge not being displayed.
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