98 yr old duke crashes range rover

[Sheepshanks]

jamei303 said:

I don’t buy the “sun was in his eyes” excuse. I’ve never seen the sun in the north-west at this time of year.

One of the locals who gave an account on TV said the sun would have been straight in his face as he came to the junction, so it doesn't explain why he couldn't have seen right and left along the road.


I have to say that watching my elderly neighbour back off his drive is terrifying as he'll look once as starts the manoeuvre but he's so slow that by the time he's getting onto the road cars have often appeared and he doesn't look again. It's only a 30MPH estate road, but there is a bend a few houses away in one direction.

I've spoken to him about it - he looks a lot like Prince Phillip and he says exactly what you'd imagine PP might say, he just dismisses concern as nonsense and says "people won't just drive into you".

[petop]

guindilias said:

Chrisgr31 said:

Who says it is an armoured vehicle? The general impression and view on this thread is that it was not armoured.

Armoured vehicles don't generally have sunroofs - even N. Irish armoured PSNI cars have them deleted at a hefty cost as everyone has air-con these days - it's a weak point to aim at. (source - I've been in a few of them "involuntarily"

An armoured vehicle won't have a passenger door (which I presume the duke exited by) that you could even open to let someone out - they weigh an absolute ton and feel like a bank vault door. (source - I know some people who are driven around in them).

Or leave glass over the road when they roll. (source - they generally have BRG, Blast Resistant Glass, which is multiple layers of toughened glass with laminated glass in between - I used to procure the stuff).

Or roll when hit by a Kia. (source - I have a bit of common sense Not much, but enough! )

Trust me the vehicle he rolled was not armoured. You can tell by the pics. I say that as i used to drive them in Kabul. As above the glass all over the place in the photos did not come from armoured glass. So much so when we replaced our "older" Landcruisers, specialist teams came out from Germany to destroy the glass.

[Vipers]

dandarez said:

Come on then, and be truthful - how many driving accidents have you been involved in, ie: you caused, and importantly add to it 'how long have you been driving?'

I'll start 52 years.
Accidents I caused, 2. Both in the late 60s! Still driving, 149 mph car!

I have a f long way to catch the Duke!
From records he has had a clean licence almost since day one, and last accident which was apparently his fault was in 1997.

Yeah, it's the Wail, but to appreciate some of the wheels he's been behind in his long life for those who are too young and clueless to realise.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6607421/H...

Been driving since 1967, never had an accident (except in a military vehicle), or a parking ticket or anything else.

[georgezippy]

hyphen said:

Tabloids have interviewed the passenger in the car.

No win no fee ambulance chasers to follow? Palace will settle out of court you would imagine.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-phili...

Well there goes my sympathy. Do people have no dignity anymore? Am sure the settlement will be adequate......

[Cold]

There's enough misinformed froth on this thread to make a gallon of really bitter cappuccino.

[juggsy]

Gareth1974 said:

RATATTAK said:

Gareth1974 said:

My brake lights remain illuminated even when my foot isn’t on the brake pedal, with the automatic parking brake holding the car. VW Arteon.

How do you know ? ... nice car BTW

Saw them reflected in a window. Had the car 10 months before I realised.

(Pedant mode on) Auto hold isn’t using the parking brake, auto hold keeps the footbrake on hence why the brake lights remain illuminated as if you still had your foot on the brakes, that’s why you get the Green ‘P’ on the dash. If the parking brake is engaged, e.g. if the button is pushed, a door is opened etc. while auto hold is on, you’ll hear the hydraulics engage and the ‘P’ goes red.

That’s why it’s generally good ettiquete to engage the parking brake when stopped for a while rather than continue to use auto hold, particularly at night, so you’re not blinding the person behind.

Edited by juggsy on Sunday 20th January 06:42

[PSRG]

MrGTI6 said:

dandarez said:

From records he has had a clean licence almost since day one, and last accident which was apparently his fault was in 1997.

And even then it was on Liz's orders.

[jamei303]

Sheepshanks said:

One of the locals who gave an account on TV said the sun would have been straight in his face as he came to the junction, so it doesn't explain why he couldn't have seen right and left along the road.

It was 2.45pm so it wasn't too low down, and it was of to his front left and the victims were coming from his right. I can't see how it can possibly be used as an excuse:

[DickyC]

Crop circles are to blame.

[V8 Fettler]

That is a low sun if it's beneath the satellite.

Sunset at Hunstanton approx 1615hrs GMT on 17/01/2019

Edit: on a bearing of 235 degrees

Edited by V8 Fettler on Sunday 20th January 08:18

[768]

jamei303 said:

It was 2.45pm so it wasn't too low down

9 degrees.

jamei303 said:

and it was of to his front left and the victims were coming from his right. I can't see how it can possibly be used as an excuse:

I've no idea what happened, but maybe he looked left, saw the sun, looked right and didn't realise he had a blind spot from seeing the sun and went. Could be anything.

[anonymous-user]

andy_s said:

1800's? Vibe? What are you blethering about?

You know, the model where one family live in opulence off of the backs of the peasants?

Leaches.

[anonymous-user]

georgezippy said:

Well there goes my sympathy. Do people have no dignity anymore? Am sure the settlement will be adequate......

Quite.

Can you imagine if the situation was reversed and a member of the public had driven into the old duffer instead?

The Police would have been all over this!!

[petemurphy]

georgezippy said:

Well there goes my sympathy. Do people have no dignity anymore? Am sure the settlement will be adequate......

She’s seen the pound signs

[Chrisgr31]

yonex said:

Quite.

Can you imagine if the situation was reversed and a member of the public had driven into the old duffer instead?

The Police would have been all over this!!

Fairly sure they wouldn't, once they had determined it was an accident rather than a deliberate attempt at crashing in to a member of the royalty anyway.

Bearing in mind the inability of those we elect to think of anyone but themselves I am glad we have the royal family, gawd help us if we had an elected person instead.

[andy_s]

yonex said:

andy_s said:

1800's? Vibe? What are you blethering about?

You know, the model where one family live in opulence off of the backs of the peasants?

Leaches.

Ah, leeches.

Well, I suppose that most Heads of State generally inhabit an opulent environment - still not bad value at 50p a year for 70 years service doing 400+ engagements per annum, probably more than most peasants I'd wager. At least they don't constantly interfere and mither about all the time unlike most other Heads of State I guess. Plus Liz can fix a Landy, which is handy in the current circumstances...

Careful what you wish for man, they are at least innocuous and benign, they aren't the Mugabes or Romanovs...

[DickyC]

yonex said:

Quite.

Can you imagine if the situation was reversed and a member of the public had driven into the old duffer instead?

The Police would have been all over this!!

It's in the pipeline. It will emerge she's a well known anti royalist with a history of mental illness who habitually targets Royal cars. Tests will prove she was travelling in excess of 80 mph. The Duke stood no chance.

[DS240]

georgezippy said:

hyphen said:

Tabloids have interviewed the passenger in the car.

No win no fee ambulance chasers to follow? Palace will settle out of court you would imagine.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-phili...

Well there goes my sympathy. Do people have no dignity anymore? Am sure the settlement will be adequate......

“The police haven’t given me any emotional support either.”

I know just the officer for this job...
https://youtu.be/imr8WKuqFZo

Edited by DS240 on Sunday 20th January 09:21

[RJG46]

He's out and about quite a lot for someone who supposedly had to give up his Royal due to poor health.

[jamei303]

RJG46 said:

He's out and about quite a lot for someone who supposedly had to give up his Royal due to poor health.

He retired due to age. Doesn't mean he has to spend the rest of his life bed-ridden.