98 yr old duke crashes range rover

[Fundoreen]

After watching the upturn in danny dire's fortune I would be happy to be run over by Prince Phillip to gain some royal connection.

[andy118run]

Vipers said:

Debris from the crash on eBay for £66,000 WTF.

I was surprised they left the bits there anyway, but 66K get a grip people.

There would be pretty much zero chance they will get any money, certainly not 66k.


This auction of crash debris made the news a few days ago, assuming it's the same one.


for whatever reason, people just seem to bid away on these weird auctions but you can be pretty sure no-one ever pays up.

[rolando]

Not the first time, it has emerged

[Jaaws]

'So the Duke says
"How are you?"
"Oh, I've just grazed my knee, Sir"
"Oh that's good then"

In those days you were grateful to be injured by Royalty, no snowflakes then....

[Willy Nilly]

So a very old man pulls out of a side road into an on coming car and the answer is to lower the speed limit and erect average speed cameras, I know, I know there's been a million other KSI's on that road, but I'll bet it's mostly similar stuff that could be helped hugely with an engineering solution.

It feels like I'm living in a parallel universe of lunacy at the moment when it comes to roads. Every conceivable issue can be solved with a speed camera and lower limit. Journey times are miraculously reduced by going slower, who knew? Expect on trains where journey times are improved a bit by going really fast and do you know what else, if you go really fast it's great for the environment, but if you go fast on the roads the whole planet will die. Ball cocks to all the training that keeps getting me injured, I'll walk around the next half marathon and be faster than when I was running.

Driving in this country has become an utter mysery

[Wacky Racer]

rolando said:

Not the first time, it has emerged

Seymour then asks: "Mr Cooper, how long have you had a driving licence?"
"I'm on a provisional," he replies.
"Were you travelling by yourself? I was travelling by myself, yes."

[anonymous-user]

Willy Nilly said:

So a very old man pulls out of a side road into an on coming car and the answer is to lower the speed limit and erect average speed cameras, I know, I know there's been a million other KSI's on that road, but I'll bet it's mostly similar stuff that could be helped hugely with an engineering solution.

It feels like I'm living in a parallel universe of lunacy at the moment when it comes to roads. Every conceivable issue can be solved with a speed camera and lower limit. Journey times are miraculously reduced by going slower, who knew? Expect on trains where journey times are improved a bit by going really fast and do you know what else, if you go really fast it's great for the environment, but if you go fast on the roads the whole planet will die. Ball cocks to all the training that keeps getting me injured, I'll walk around the next half marathon and be faster than when I was running.

Driving in this country has become an utter mysery

And some nobody lefty councillor tries to make a name for herself with the old ‘speed kills’ bs.

It’s just laughable

[anonymous-user]

Vaud said:

austinsmirk said:

I used to have an 84/85 yr old male neighbour.

had a little corsa- every panel scraped where he'd driven it down the side of the garage.

I get home from work one day and he says to me

"well I went shopping today, drove up the road- I had to laugh. I pulled up as there was this yellow car in the road, stopped

I waited

and waited

and waited.

turns out it was a skip "


(not a skip lorry I hasten to add for accuracy- an actual skip) fortunately he packed in driving pretty swiftly after that.

My parent's neighbour stopped driving as he drove through on to his drive, down the drive into and through the back of the garage and was stopped by the compost heap. In his words "I couldn't take my foot of the pedal, my ankle doesn't work too well and keeps locking"

And there is a flaw. Many elderly drivers, quite correctly, take the decision to hang their proverbial gloves up.

But a driver may be diagnosed with some disorder that might impair his or her ability to drive, but there is no compunction on the GP to inform the DVLA of this. It is concomitant on the driver to inform the DVLA.

How many here know which medical conditions you must report. No one here will know without looking it up. The list is long. Some is quite obvious, such as various heart conditions, but some things are not so obvious.

One area is Alzheimers'. The sufferer must inform the DVLA. But frequently the sufferer will deny they have Alzheimer. My father went through this, and it took him a little while to understand that he mustn't drive anymore. He was lucky; he was diagnosed early on, without the mini mental test being triggered because of some catastrophe, such as getting lost, or driving up the motorway the wrong way. But scarily, the DVLA will allow some AD sufferers to continue to drive for another year. The DVLA has its own medical committee. Alzheimers affects your memory, but it also affects cognitive skills.

There is recent news that a new blood test can diagnose AD much earlier than before. But diagnosis is terminal; if you have Alzheimers, it will be Alzheimers on your death certificate, whether 5 years after diagnosis or 20 years. What if everyone over 50 was to undergo a blood test for Alzheimers, knowing there is no cure. Very difficult.

[Funkmachine7]

I still argur that we should have twenty year retests, not least on the grounds of eye deterioration, but the up dated coded around signage.
Not a hard pass or fail but a test that gives people a few month to put there skills in order, six months to lean better driving.
After that we have the hard core of crap drivelers .

After 60 A short tests every year to see if your still able, the same with medical conditions, I.E. diabetes

[Vipers]

Wacky Racer said:

rolando said:

Not the first time, it has emerged

Seymour then asks: "Mr Cooper, how long have you had a driving licence?"
"I'm on a provisional," he replies.
"Were you travelling by yourself? I was travelling by myself, yes."

Looks like he signalled and started turning across oncoming traffic, didn't mention mirror, oh well just another accident.

[ALawson]

MX5Biologist said:

One area is Alzheimers'. The sufferer must inform the DVLA. But frequently the sufferer will deny they have Alzheimer. My father went through this, and it took him a little while to understand that he mustn't drive anymore. He was lucky; he was diagnosed early on, without the mini mental test being triggered because of some catastrophe, such as getting lost, or driving up the motorway the wrong way. But scarily, the DVLA will allow some AD sufferers to continue to drive for another year. The DVLA has its own medical committee. Alzheimers affects your memory, but it also affects cognitive skills.

Spot on, my late father who suffered from frontotemporal dementia although diagnosed via the hospital specialist continued to drive (GP knew about it via diagnosis). It was only when he went to pick my mother up who was dropping of her car for a service, he went to the wrong garage in the same chain of garaged so she got a taxi or lift home from the service department. Meanwhile he paced around the showroom for 3 hours generally getting more irate when he couldn't communicate or work out why my mother wasn't there, when he finally stopped shouting the garage called the police.

The police lady got his name/address out of him etc. and then suggested my father follower her in his car. The result was a letter from the DVLA within 2 weeks requesting access to GP records. He had his license removed a week after returning the paperwork.

This was despite my mother who shared the same GP pleading with him 6 months earlier to contact the DVLA.

After being finally stripped of his license it was down to my arthritic mother to control access to the car keys (his car and her own), a very difficult situation made worse when the person with dementia is physically larger and stronger than others. This eventually resulted in him being sectioned. I cannot complain as in the end the NHS picked up the bill for his 5 years of care at a BUPA facility.

[Digger]

ALawson said:

This eventually resulted in him being sectioned. I cannot complain as in the end the NHS picked up the bill for his 5 years of care at a BUPA facility.

How did that work out of interest? Some form of private health care insurance?

[Shakermaker]

Willy Nilly said:

So a very old man pulls out of a side road into an on coming car and the answer is to lower the speed limit and erect average speed cameras, I know, I know there's been a million other KSI's on that road, but I'll bet it's mostly similar stuff that could be helped hugely with an engineering solution.

Not quite

A 97 year old man pulled out of a side road onto a road where the speed limit was already being reduced. It wasn't reduced because of him.

Agree that an engineering solution COULD help in many places, but that comes with other barriers to making it work

Such as the cost of doing the work itself, but before that, you'll have to spend money to propose the work, you'd have to spend money to buy some land (if people are willing to sell it without a fight, if not, more cost) and then you have to check that it has worked.

Or, you could leave the road as it is, and tell everyone to drive along a bit slower, thus reducing either the chance of a crash, or the severity of one if it does happen. That's the option they've chosen!

[768]

It's a st option.

[ALawson]

Digger said:

ALawson said:

This eventually resulted in him being sectioned. I cannot complain as in the end the NHS picked up the bill for his 5 years of care at a BUPA facility.

How did that work out of interest? Some form of private health care insurance?

Who knows?! When Sectioned under the mental health act I think the NHS picks the cost up automatically, the first section was a month which was then reviewed by doctors etc.. This was then extended to 6 months, and then every 6 months or so (could have been 3 or 9, I cannot remember) it was reviewed and extended.

During that time a variety of drugs were administered to control the erratic physical behaviour and actions as well as calm the person down. If the old man came of the drugs he reverted to needing to be under section and wouldn't take the drugs. Therefore was kept under one for his and other safety.

With his particular dementia there is muscle atrophy resulting in the person being chair or bed bound, it was this point when he had to be physically assisted that my mum was fearing the worst i.e. use up all cash, shares, sell house etc.. It never came to it and they continued to put him up where he was, there were discussions of it costing about £250k per year per patient where he was.

Apologies for going off topic.

Back to the Duke!

[Digger]

Thanks for the reply. Sorry, just intrigued.

[Mort7]

Well, she's got her apology, and an autograph, so now maybe she'll shut up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8288231/prince-phili...

[Brads67]

I doubt it.

Any sympathy vanished when she sold her pish to the press.

[anonymous-user]

Mort7 said:

Well, she's got her apology, and an autograph, so now maybe she'll shut up.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8288231/prince-phili...

He’s admitted liability, perhaps he’ll hang up his driving licence. Silly old fart.

‘One is very, very, sorry’ (that there were witnesses)

[johnwilliams77]

yonex said:

He’s admitted liability, perhaps he’ll hang up his driving licence. Silly old fart.

‘One is very, very, sorry’ (that there were witnesses)

Not likely, he was back in another freelander soon after.