Dyson job losses

[Otispunkmeyer]

JPJPJP said:

R&D is staying I presume?

yes. They spent a few 100 million on their new proving ground area.

[Vaud]

J4CKO said:

Dyson is doing the clever stuff like that over here, actually making can be done anywhere that can provide a workforce who can follow the process to mold, build and QA the product.

So that can be done cheaper, and the company makes more profits but for someone so opinionated about what is good for the country, someone with so much wealth, I would have thought he could have kept manufacturing here. Is he still in complete control of the company anyway ?

Singapore is not cheaper for pretty much anything. It is a high cost, high skills economy. No one moves there to reduce the cost of manufacturing or production.

[Halmyre]

Vaud said:

Dindoit said:

Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.
Mogg’s fund to Dublin

No. Mogg opened a NEW fund in Dublin. Incremental to the existing ones. Not a move.

Well, I never cut and paste, I always copy and paste.

And THEN I delete the original.

[Sa Calobra]

Downward said:

lbc said:

The Gadget Show tested their fans last year, and their £200-£300 model was no better than a normal fan costing £15 from a supermarket.

Maybe no better but the dyson has no moving parts and is virtually silent.
Because of the lack of blades it’s ideal for medical areas where infection control is key. They can be cleaned a lot easier than the £15 fan and the lack of noise means it’s suitable for multi bedded bays and offices where the clinical staff have to make phone calls to patients and their families.

In most of offices they have air conditioning meaning no need for 'silence' for phone calls..

He's charging a big price for novelty factor.

As with Brompton bikes I welcome anyone who comes in and brings down that high price yet offers a similar product.

China will devour his ideas.

[ClaphamGT3]

Trolleys Thank You said:

Nowhere near that same amount of money would be available to reinvest. You are aware that Dyson will still have to pay corporation tax, just not to the British government. That's very disappointing news for this country and people like you are celebrating this fact?

What do you have against this country?

Choice of tax jurisdiction is just another supply chain decision for major corporates - and rightly so.

If the UK wants to attract/retain major businesses in the UK it has to make the tax and legislative framework attractive to them.

[richie99]

PositronicRay said:

I notice Nigel Farage has been on his hind legs. "We should stop being so Europe centric and engage globally" meanwhile the kippers are critising globalist.

Mixed messages, I guess you can't criticise Dyson. He's got to do the best he can for him and his company during unstable times.

Instability that he had at least a part in creating. Explains why he is not too worried about a trade deal between the UK and the EU because he's moved to a country which does.

[daveco]

Halmyre said:

Vaud said:

Dindoit said:

Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.
Mogg’s fund to Dublin

No. Mogg opened a NEW fund in Dublin. Incremental to the existing ones. Not a move.

Well, I never cut and paste, I always copy and paste.

And THEN I delete the original.

Mogg will not discuss financial risk and Brexit. Instead, his company will do it for him


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/22/j...

[Troubleatmill]

Downward said:

lbc said:

The Gadget Show tested their fans last year, and their £200-£300 model was no better than a normal fan costing £15 from a supermarket.

Maybe no better but the dyson has no moving parts and is virtually silent.
Because of the lack of blades it’s ideal for medical areas where infection control is key. They can be cleaned a lot easier than the £15 fan and the lack of noise means it’s suitable for multi bedded bays and offices where the clinical staff have to make phone calls to patients and their families.

And there is no buffeting. What other fan does that?
Gadget Show testing on stuff is generally low rent stuff.

For the Fan with the HEPA filters - it came out top - but testing it by throwing in a dogs bed full of crap into the filters isn't really realm life conditions.

[Troubleatmill]

DMN said:

Looks like the plan is for more than just the HQ out there:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/aixy2...

And JLR are making cars in Slovakia etc etc

Fiat 500's - oh so Italian - as made in Poland and several other countries.

If the long term growth for my company is based in AsiaPac - guess where I will be investing in additional manufacturing etc.

It's a non news story - but it fits the Remainer narrative.

[Troubleatmill]

Vaud said:

J4CKO said:

Dyson is doing the clever stuff like that over here, actually making can be done anywhere that can provide a workforce who can follow the process to mold, build and QA the product.

So that can be done cheaper, and the company makes more profits but for someone so opinionated about what is good for the country, someone with so much wealth, I would have thought he could have kept manufacturing here. Is he still in complete control of the company anyway ?

Singapore is not cheaper for pretty much anything. It is a high cost, high skills economy. No one moves there to reduce the cost of manufacturing or production.

It is a highly skilled workforce
Close to suppliers/ raw materials etc - and the bulk of their market volumes.

It's a no brainer.

[PositronicRay]

richie99 said:

PositronicRay said:

I notice Nigel Farage has been on his hind legs. "We should stop being so Europe centric and engage globally" meanwhile the kippers are critising globalist.

Mixed messages, I guess you can't criticise Dyson. He's got to do the best he can for him and his company during unstable times.

Instability that he had at least a part in creating. Explains why he is not too worried about a trade deal between the UK and the EU because he's moved to a country which does.

He's clearly a successful businessman with vision.

[Piha]

PositronicRay said:

richie99 said:

PositronicRay said:

I notice Nigel Farage has been on his hind legs. "We should stop being so Europe centric and engage globally" meanwhile the kippers are critising globalist.

Mixed messages, I guess you can't criticise Dyson. He's got to do the best he can for him and his company during unstable times.

Instability that he had at least a part in creating. Explains why he is not too worried about a trade deal between the UK and the EU because he's moved to a country which does.

He's clearly a successful businessman with vision.

Is that why Dyson wanted to join the euro?

[J4CKO]

Vaud said:

J4CKO said:

Dyson is doing the clever stuff like that over here, actually making can be done anywhere that can provide a workforce who can follow the process to mold, build and QA the product.

So that can be done cheaper, and the company makes more profits but for someone so opinionated about what is good for the country, someone with so much wealth, I would have thought he could have kept manufacturing here. Is he still in complete control of the company anyway ?

Singapore is not cheaper for pretty much anything. It is a high cost, high skills economy. No one moves there to reduce the cost of manufacturing or production.

There is the Corporation Tax aspect, even if they dont end up paying the folk who build the stuff less,

Its always cost based one way or another, dont think he is doing it for any other reason other than money.

[Trolleys Thank You]

Troubleatmill said:

DMN said:

Looks like the plan is for more than just the HQ out there:

https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/aixy2...

And JLR are making cars in Slovakia etc etc

Fiat 500's - oh so Italian - as made in Poland and several other countries.

If the long term growth for my company is based in AsiaPac - guess where I will be investing in additional manufacturing etc.

It's a non news story - but it fits the Remainer narrative.

"What about, what about, what about"

Read it. It completely destroys your lies earlier in this thread about further investment in this country. You've been shown up yet again to not have a clue what you're talking about.

[Trolleys Thank You]

Troubleatmill said:

Vaud said:

J4CKO said:

Dyson is doing the clever stuff like that over here, actually making can be done anywhere that can provide a workforce who can follow the process to mold, build and QA the product.

So that can be done cheaper, and the company makes more profits but for someone so opinionated about what is good for the country, someone with so much wealth, I would have thought he could have kept manufacturing here. Is he still in complete control of the company anyway ?

Singapore is not cheaper for pretty much anything. It is a high cost, high skills economy. No one moves there to reduce the cost of manufacturing or production.

It is a highly skilled workforce
Close to suppliers/ raw materials etc - and the bulk of their market volumes.

It's a no brainer.

But, but, global Britain? We were promised again and again that this wouldn't happen. So it wasn't project fear after all!

[motco]

The fans, like the cyclonic cleaners, use technology that has been around for many decades. The 'clever' bit, if any, is adapting this technology into domestic appliances that can be sold to a gullible public with a desire to spend more on something otherwise mundane for greatly inflated prices. The cyclone has been used in industrial extractor systems to separate fine dust from the airflow, and the airmovers from the fans and the hairdryer are more usually truly no-moving-part devices driven by compressed air. Look at the cooling devices that are used to cool F1 drivers; these are the compressed air air-multipliers.

His 'digital' motors do seem to have some innovative developments if a Youtube video I saw is to be believed. But as I am not an electric motor expert I can only watch and wonder. His ads do stretch the truth with the claims that the vacuums never lose suction because they have multi-stage filters which, if they do anything at all, must become occluded with trapped particulates. That accumulation simply must reduce the vacuum power until the filters are cleaned or replaced. A bit like a small cloth bag really...

One Youtube video of many

[anonymous-user]

motco said:

His 'digital' motors do seem to have some innovative developments...

... but even if they do (?) the term "digital motor" is pure marketing spin.

[Dindoit]

otis criblecoblis said:

Dindoit said:

Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.

Farage’s kids with German passports
Lawson off to France
Mogg’s fund to Dublin
Ratcliffe gone to Monaco

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Who could have predicted this thread would have attracted the dolt end of the Remain vote to post gibberish ?

Shut, and I can’t stress this enough, up.

[Sa Calobra]

Back to the people's vote again where if you mentioned you were going to vote leave remainers abused and got angry with you.

Mate the people voted. Get over it. Bringing up media picked facts don't make up to the whole health and issues with the EU.

[otis criblecoblis]

Dindoit said:

otis criblecoblis said:

Dindoit said:

Nothing to see here. Everything is fine.

Farage’s kids with German passports
Lawson off to France
Mogg’s fund to Dublin
Ratcliffe gone to Monaco

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Who could have predicted this thread would have attracted the dolt end of the Remain vote to post gibberish ?

Shut, and I can’t stress this enough, up.

Rather than posting Trolley's type gibberish, have a go at explaining anything on your list as having any significance whatsoever.