How do we think EU negotiations will go? (Vol 8)

[Mrr T]

Earthdweller said:

All they are saying is Irish beef would be subject to the same tariffs as beef produced anywhere else if the Uk goes to WTO

It then becomes a free and fair market

No issues with that

Now, it may make those in Ireland start to panic abou the decimation of their rural economy

But is that an issue for the UK .. no

Coveney believes that the E.U. will pay Irish farmers for doing nothing so all will be well with the world

But will they?

It seems Grove said quite a lot more in the speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/b...

Seems he also thinks no deal will cause major problems at the channel crossing and for UK farmers. Obviously he is now part of project fear.

What he does not say is how he plans to collect these tariffs, paid by the British tax payer, on Irish beef.

[SpeckledJim]

Mrr T said:

It seems Grove said quite a lot more in the speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/19/b...

Seems he also thinks no deal will cause major problems at the channel crossing and for UK farmers. Obviously he is now part of project fear.

What he does not say is how he plans to collect these tariffs, paid by the British tax payer, on Irish beef.

Given we'll have to be keeping track of where every piece of beef comes from, anyone in the UK buying beef from elsewhere will have to be keeping records of what/where/how much/which/and who from.

Almost anyone who buys anything in any kind of volume usually has too much to lose to get involved in smuggling. All a bit embarrassing.

[Murph7355]

PurpleMoonlight said:

London424 said:

Quite shocking xenophobia on display IMO.

Where's that then?

Isn't it a Greek Island in the Aegean?

[slow_poke]

Vanden Saab said:

Earthdweller said:

slow_poke said:

Bullocks. We're talking beef here, so bullocks. The EU can eat tasty, healthy Irish beef steaks. Which is a point - fk the Irish Beef Farmers. They've got a ready market in the rest of the EU, they should've diversified from over-dependence on one customer, the UK, years ago.

Cows is dairy, which is another thing. Cows make milk, and milk makes cheese. Apparently, Irish cheese-makers are vulnerable as well to Brexit because they specialized in producing cheddar type cheeses for the UK market. unlike a tasty steak, there isn't as much potential in the EU markets to sell cheddar. They'll have to learn how to make other types of cheese.

That’ll go well then after all French farmers are renowned for accepting changes

I’m sure they will be delighted to have French supermarkets full of Irish beef and cheese

They will be even more delighted for their own gov. to subsidise the Irish farmers to do it...

If they're not quite calling Gove's bluff (if he is bluffing) it looks like the Irish Govt are upping the ante in response:

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/c...

[Piha]

Oh dear... what has Brexiteer MP Chris Davies been up to?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171

[alfie2244]

Murph7355 said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

London424 said:

Quite shocking xenophobia on display IMO.

Where's that then?

Isn't it a Greek Island in the Aegean?

You need to get out more PM....................IIRC it's the closest island to Lesbos.

[SpeckledJim]

Piha said:

Oh dear... what has Brexiteer MP Chris Davies been up to?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171

Not just a Brexiteer. He's also a white guy AND Welsh.

The lesson, clearly, being that white guys are crooks. So are all the Welsh. Not to mention the Brexiteers. Crooks crooks crooks.

I also gather he likes watching Eastenders, so that's another 6m crooks in the UK.



Come on. Up your game.

[Piha]

SpeckledJim said:

Piha said:

Oh dear... what has Brexiteer MP Chris Davies been up to?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171

Not just a Brexiteer. He's also a white guy AND Welsh.

The lesson, clearly, being that white guys are crooks. So are all the Welsh. Not to mention the Brexiteers. Crooks crooks crooks.

I also gather he likes watching Eastenders, so that's another 6m crooks in the UK.



Come on. Up your game.

SpeckledJim, it's time to put the Buckie me thinks.......

[crankedup]

SpeckledJim said:

Piha said:

Oh dear... what has Brexiteer MP Chris Davies been up to?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171

Not just a Brexiteer. He's also a white guy AND Welsh.

The lesson, clearly, being that white guys are crooks. So are all the Welsh. Not to mention the Brexiteers. Crooks crooks crooks.

I also gather he likes watching Eastenders, so that's another 6m crooks in the UK.



Come on. Up your game.

Does he qualify as a gammon as well?

[SpeckledJim]

Piha said:

SpeckledJim said:

Piha said:

Oh dear... what has Brexiteer MP Chris Davies been up to?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47320171

Not just a Brexiteer. He's also a white guy AND Welsh.

The lesson, clearly, being that white guys are crooks. So are all the Welsh. Not to mention the Brexiteers. Crooks crooks crooks.

I also gather he likes watching Eastenders, so that's another 6m crooks in the UK.



Come on. Up your game.

SpeckledJim, it's time to put the Buckie me thinks.......

Fiona Onasanya is a Remainer.

But this is very very silly, isn't it?

[gooner1]

alfie2244 said:

Murph7355 said:

PurpleMoonlight said:

London424 said:

Quite shocking xenophobia on display IMO.

Where's that then?

Isn't it a Greek Island in the Aegean?

You need to get out more PM....................IIRC it's the closest island to Lesbos.

I thought that was Miriam Margoyles.

[anonymous-user]

Well that’s a shock. ‘easiest deal in history’ Fox has failed to deliver :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47319533

[bitchstewie]

Jimboka said:

Well that’s a shock. ‘easiest deal in history’ Fox has failed to deliver :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47319533

You'd almost think we didn't hold all the cards.

[toppstuff]

Jimboka said:

Well that’s a shock. ‘easiest deal in history’ Fox has failed to deliver :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47319533

Other media reporting that Japanese are seriously not impressed with Fox and the UK team. They have rejected our idea of the same deal as the rest of E.U and are playing hardball.

I’m sure it will all be fine. Nothing to worry about. Our crack team of trade experts can all be trusted to Make Britain Great Again.

[johnxjsc1985]

toppstuff said:

Other media reporting that Japanese are seriously not impressed with Fox and the UK team. They have rejected our idea of the same deal as the rest of E.U and are playing hardball.

I’m sure it will all be fine. Nothing to worry about. Our crack team of trade experts can all be trusted to Make Britain Great Again.

which "media" would that be ?

[bitchstewie]

johnxjsc1985 said:

which "media" would that be ?

Financial Times I believe.

[citizensm1th]

johnxjsc1985 said:

toppstuff said:

Other media reporting that Japanese are seriously not impressed with Fox and the UK team. They have rejected our idea of the same deal as the rest of E.U and are playing hardball.

I’m sure it will all be fine. Nothing to worry about. Our crack team of trade experts can all be trusted to Make Britain Great Again.

which "media" would that be ?

Just google fox,letter japan trade deal. he really is useless

[bitchstewie]

citizensm1th said:

Just google fox,letter japan trade deal. he really is useless

I'm waiting to see people spinning this as a positive development rather than another shambles.

[toppstuff]

citizensm1th said:

johnxjsc1985 said:

toppstuff said:

Other media reporting that Japanese are seriously not impressed with Fox and the UK team. They have rejected our idea of the same deal as the rest of E.U and are playing hardball.

I’m sure it will all be fine. Nothing to worry about. Our crack team of trade experts can all be trusted to Make Britain Great Again.

which "media" would that be ?

Just google fox,letter japan trade deal. he really is useless

Yep. Japan were so annoyed with Fox they got very close to calling off their meetings and effectively telling the UK to go spin on it.

Fox is awesome. I’m sure he’d perform much better if only his mate Adam Werrity was with him. You should google that too. Fills you with pride and optimism.

[citizensm1th]

bhstewie said:

citizensm1th said:

Just google fox,letter japan trade deal. he really is useless

I'm waiting to see people spinning this as a positive development rather than another shambles.

oh it will never be britain's fault and by extension his, the fourth rate twonk