Student strike for climate change
Discussion
Diderot said:
And even more stupid is the belief that humans can control the climate.
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
RobDickinson said:
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.
Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
nope,that's not how it works. scientists propose something then it needs to be measured and observed to take place.Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
wc98 said:
RobDickinson said:
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.
Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
nope,that's not how it works. scientists propose something then it needs to be measured and observed to take place.Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
RobDickinson said:
Diderot said:
And even more stupid is the belief that humans can control the climate.
Science is pretty damned certain we are significantly affecting the climate.Now how science works is if you can prove otherwise get of your arse and do it , until then its the best information we have and should act on it.
It's like we've got gangrene in both legs and people know something needs to be done. But seem to be under the understanding that it's just going to involve a bit of ointment to sort it out. When really it's going to mean someone's going to need to hack them both off with a saw.
The way I see it,we are at a fork in the road,
We either carry on as we are using increasing amounts of energy green,fossil or otherwise along with economic growth and if agw is real possibly accelerate our destruction.
or,
We decrease consumption,risk global economic decline and instability leading to war and possibly accelerate our destruction.
We either carry on as we are using increasing amounts of energy green,fossil or otherwise along with economic growth and if agw is real possibly accelerate our destruction.
or,
We decrease consumption,risk global economic decline and instability leading to war and possibly accelerate our destruction.
French Doctor Slams “Instrumentalisation by militant extremists” Of Greta Thunberg as “Irresponsible”, “Moral Error”... “Neuropsychiatric State To Media Should Be A Crime”.
The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...
The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...
turbobloke said:
French Doctor Slams “Instrumentalisation by militant extremists” Of Greta Thunberg as “Irresponsible”, “Moral Error”... “Neuropsychiatric State To Media Should Be A Crime”.
The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...
I seem to remember a little blonde girl that was similarly weaponised by extremists. Can’t remember the name but she was taught to speak in a Blair-like manner.The line is that Greta Thunberg is being shamelessly exploited which “is playing into the hands of economic interests for whom climate protection is of little importance”.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/societe/2019/03/18/3100...
On a lighter note, it would be interesting to listen in on conversations between parents and their children over the matter of this strike for climate change, with parents saying we really support the stance you are taking. Consequently we will no longer be driving you to school/college/uni/ mates houses etc.
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know!
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know!
Pan Pan Pan said:
On a lighter note, it would be interesting to listen in on conversations between parents and their children over the matter of this strike for climate change, with parents saying we really support the stance you are taking. Consequently we will no longer be driving you to school/college/uni/ mates houses etc.
You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know!
I'm going to try some amateur psychology here. You will need to remember that you will have to start getting up earlier in order to get these places in time, (by walking and using public transport.) Also In order for you to get up in time, we will be removing the TV you have in your bedroom, so that you can get to bed early.
Since emissions production coming from global computer use is greater than that coming from global aviation, we will restrict your time on the computer to just enough to do your academic work, so that will be another way of helping the planet, not forgetting the energy use and emissions coming from mobile phone use must also be restricted, by limiting the time you are allowed to spend on the phone.
To really make it count you can forget holidays to other places, that require the use of an airliner. Those concerts you like going to are fine, but you will have to make your own way there, carrying whatever you think you will need to make it all fun, and don't litter the place up with all your bottles, rubbish and tents when you leave, Got to protect the countryside you know!
This response is how your mind helps you cope with the overwhelming scale of the problem. You are creating a scenario so ridiculous so you don't have to confront the issue. Nothing can be done, therefore I don't have to worry about it.
Thankfully you're not in a position of responsibility and the reality is we can deal with the problem, at least in some way. We have the technology and it is improving all the time.
The main obstacle is the fact that there are corporate interests with a lot of influence and power that would prefer that not to happen, which is why this relatively straightforward issue has become a battleground in which people have become convinced that they are emotionally attached to coal, and are therefore prepared to fight for it.
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