Farage's March To Leave
Discussion
chrispmartha said:
gooner1 said:
chrispmartha said:
j_4m said:
Even as an ardent leave supporter I'm dismayed by the League of Gammon. I don't really want to be lumped in with people like Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Farage, much less their tabloid reading analogues in real life.
This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
Jeremy Clarkson is an ardent remainer so you're not lumped in with hi at least.This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
But I read the post as even as a leaver he didn't want to be lumped in with the other leavers that are 'gammon', I may have misread it.
Fulmentaljack3t said:
chrispmartha said:
JagLover said:
desolate said:
I have posted the original source multiple times.
Wikipedia is not a reliable source
Apart from the fact that this is cr*p.Wikipedia is not a reliable source
The term gammon as a political insult came into use after an edition of question time, referring to old working class white men, it had nothing to do with some obscure passage in Dickens long since forgotten.
The "woke" don't like the fact their new favourite insult is racist, classist and ageist so have to think up some b*llox why it is acceptable.
And as for classist and ageist, you can be young, lower/working class and Gammon, unless you are now taking a wikipedia entry as gospel, in which case, can you tell me how the term gammon falls within wikipedia's meaning of Racist.
"Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another"
j_4m said:
chrispmartha said:
gooner1 said:
chrispmartha said:
j_4m said:
Even as an ardent leave supporter I'm dismayed by the League of Gammon. I don't really want to be lumped in with people like Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Farage, much less their tabloid reading analogues in real life.
This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
Jeremy Clarkson is an ardent remainer so you're not lumped in with hi at least.This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
But I read the post as even as a leaver he didn't want to be lumped in with the other leavers that are 'gammon', I may have misread it.
I don't know Jeremy Clarkson personally but I reckon he is far more liberal than some of his fans would like.
chrispmartha said:
crankedup said:
j_4m said:
Even as an ardent leave supporter I'm dismayed by the League of Gammon. I don't really want to be lumped in with people like Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Farage, much less their tabloid reading analogues in real life.
This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
Not many politicians can single handed recieve the support of 17.4 million voters. This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
How's his record in trying to become an MP?
Terrible record of failure regarding his ambitions of joining the HOC. Pity, I would love to have seen his performance in the House at PMQs.
chrispmartha said:
I think he is a prime Gammon but I think he's only playing a character a character that's made him rich by appealing to certain demographic, let's call them Gammons ;-)
I don't know Jeremy Clarkson personally but I reckon he is far more liberal than some of his fans would like.
I think maybe it's his TV persona that offends me so much. I don't want people thinking I have a "Clarkson for PM!" sticker on my car.I don't know Jeremy Clarkson personally but I reckon he is far more liberal than some of his fans would like.
I was pleased to read an article where he talks about his low impact farm, would never have thought he'd be into that kind of thing based on his public face.
PositronicRay said:
crankedup said:
j_4m said:
Even as an ardent leave supporter I'm dismayed by the League of Gammon. I don't really want to be lumped in with people like Jeremy Clarkson and Nigel Farage, much less their tabloid reading analogues in real life.
This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
Nigel has been a pain in the backside of the EU for fifteen years or more, fine job almost complete. Not many politicians can single handed recieve the support of 17.4 million voters. This march is stupid. To Farage leaving the EU is just a self-imposed geas to avoid the fact that he'll never be an MP, the march is just a part of his ego trip.
The other politicians, and Dominic of course, chose to campaign in support of brexit. So without Nigel’s initial and sustained political ‘anti EU’ stance 17.4 million people would not have been offered the opportunity to express thier wish to leave the EU via a referendum.
98elise said:
Dindoit said:
Atomic12C said:
When it comes to the 'gammon' term, does it only apply to older white men that voted to leave in the EU referendum, or does it apply to all older white men irrespective of nationality or voting preference?
Neither.It's not about age, race, nationality or voting preference.
"In 2018, it became particularly known as a term to describe middle-aged or older white men, particularly those on the political right or who supported Brexit"
So...age, race, voting preference and nationality all covered. If it's wrong why not edit Wikipedia?
Gammon is a word most definitely that can be used as an insult: it’s a curious cultural phenomenon that could only have occurred in the UK at exactly this point in history.
The Times initially highlighted how the phrase was being used by Corbyn supporters to ridicule middle-aged white men.
Belfast South MP, Emma Little-Pengelly, insists that Gammon 'is racist', and she makes a good point:
'Stereotyping by colour or age is wrong - no matter what race, age or community.'
Hard to disagree with that. Unless you're a remoaner, of course.
There is no fixed definition of Gammon (outside, of course, of a culinary context), but a former spokesperson for Corbyn did utter the following:
'...older men who, despite having all the opportunities that baby boomers enjoyed, are confused and angry at the modern world.
It’s a condition that once manifested itself as an affinity to UKIP, but now more so to high blood pressure and a red meat complexion.
Baldness is optional, as are dodgy tattoos, and the uniform of the gammon is boot-cut jeans, loafers and an open-collared white polyester shirt.'
As a baby boomer, I'm not confused (only at what were all these opportunities I enjoyed? Opportunities, on a council estate? I f worked hard for what I got, it's my millennial kids that will be left with the 'gold' - more than I could ever have dreamt of when I was young!), I'm not angry at the 'modun' world (just how mad it's got!), I don't have high blood pressure and most certainly don't have red complexion, nor do I have any of the other options he listed.
From my perspective, as a 'hardened' Leaver, what I find ironic is that most of the shouty Remoaniacs I've encountered, and who do tend to yell 'Gammon' - are all obese.
ie: as fat as pigs!
Edited by dandarez on Friday 1st March 16:55
JuanCarlosFandango said:
I love the seething, grammar correcting anger of the 3 flush Remainers on these threads. It makes me want to spell things wrong.
Good four Nige sticking it too the elites. There time is up.
Yeaaah!
to be fair to him Nigel Farage convincing/hoodwinking people to think he isn’t one of the ‘elites’ is one of his biggest triumphsGood four Nige sticking it too the elites. There time is up.
Yeaaah!
The man's a genius https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_1mF-3JTI
He reached parts of the EU that others couldn't reach
He reached parts of the EU that others couldn't reach
anonymous said:
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Of course I wouldn't because that's not quite the same as going all corned-beef cheeked because you're angry that someone has insulted our sovereignty or whatever it is that does it.I wouldn't call it people myself, but there is something pretty funny in seeing people frothing at being called Gammon whilst complaining the world is full of snowflakes and it's all PC gone mad and everyone is too easily offended.
No irony there.
chrispmartha said:
to be fair to him Nigel Farage convincing/hoodwinking people to think he isn’t one of the ‘elites’ is one of his biggest triumphs
Listen to him on LBC if you want a laugh."Nigel sir, we need you, by 2021 you'll be our Prime Minister sir there are 17.4M of us ready to vote for you sir".
Nigel was flattered to be fair but oddly he didn't mention the whole 7 time running for Parliament thing.
anonymous said:
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Someone with lupus could also be gammon if they are all angry and shouty.And IMO you don’t have to have red cheeks to be Gammon, the terms transcended that I think.
Fwiw I don’t think I’ve ever called someone a gammon for real, but it is funny seeing some on here tryimg to play the race card!
chrispmartha said:
to be fair to him Nigel Farage convincing/hoodwinking people to think he isn’t one of the ‘elites’ is one of his biggest triumphs
I don't think he really tries to hide it. He went to private school, worked in the city and then became an MEP. He speaks with a plummy sort of accent, although more merchant than aristocrat. As with JRM and BoJo, they might court popularity but not by affecting working class accents or appearances. You'd have to go to Tony Blair for a real man-of-the-people t
t.
It's the lower upper middle class who resent everyone.
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