Farage's March To Leave
Discussion
wc98 said:
Thorodin said:
Farage’s revival is about to throw a massive spanner in. He undoubtedly, in his well worn habit, will poke his finger in the balloon that has since 2017 been studiously ignored by those mutton eared clods in HoC.
The reason why there is no support in parliament for any particular option that has been offered is because everybody knew the PM’s deal was a non-starter and supported by nobody. In fact it wasn't her deal at all, it was dictated by the EU. Even worse than a no-deal. Translate the pretence that they pretend they are all about finding an alternative they can agree on? No, they are not. They are determined to stop the whole thing by whatever means they can. Farage will expose that and huge numbers will support it.
Whether you like him, or not, he is telling the truth. The figures go a long way to support it. The web site: in only 2 weeks and already £750,000 in small donations with the largest being £150. That’s entirely from ‘ordinary’ people who can least afford it. Ground swell.
The reason why there is no support in parliament for any particular option that has been offered is because everybody knew the PM’s deal was a non-starter and supported by nobody. In fact it wasn't her deal at all, it was dictated by the EU. Even worse than a no-deal. Translate the pretence that they pretend they are all about finding an alternative they can agree on? No, they are not. They are determined to stop the whole thing by whatever means they can. Farage will expose that and huge numbers will support it.
Whether you like him, or not, he is telling the truth. The figures go a long way to support it. The web site: in only 2 weeks and already £750,000 in small donations with the largest being £150. That’s entirely from ‘ordinary’ people who can least afford it. Ground swell.
the shortsightedness of parliament is incredible. i am sure they really all did think it would just go away if they could stall leaving long enough. given fixed term parliaments any new party has plenty time for fundraising and organisation to make sure they have a meaningful presence come election time. politics has never been so interesting 
In reality a repeated failing of governments to address social and economic issues, leading to a very uneven distribution of wealth. You can blame it on the EU, but in reality it’s a combination of capitalism and globalisation.
Not sure how backing Farage as an MEP will help, but sure that there will be a huge amount of vitriol and identification of a common enemy that will make certain types feel better.
Thorodin said:
Whether you like him, or not, he is telling the truth. The figures go a long way to support it. The web site: in only 2 weeks and already £750,000 in small donations with the largest being £150. That’s entirely from ‘ordinary’ people who can least afford it. Ground swell.
More like ground chop* That's £10 each from 75,000 people... *For clarity, this is a reference to waves. Not gammon.
The Guardian is going to town: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
Randy Winkman said:
Mr Whippy said:
I want the UK to join the USA.
They have a bigger economy, a stronger currency, and a bigger military.
All these racists who want us to stay in the mainly white EU make me sick.
Why would you want to stay in a racist, small-time EU?
The EU is racist but the US isn't?They have a bigger economy, a stronger currency, and a bigger military.
All these racists who want us to stay in the mainly white EU make me sick.
Why would you want to stay in a racist, small-time EU?
king KKK used to call themselves?Bill said:
More like ground chop* That's £10 each from 75,000 people...
*For clarity, this is a reference to waves. Not gammon.
The Guardian is going to town: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
Yawn. So predictable. Marina Hyde in the Grauniad, descending to slagging everything the editor doesn't like and reverting to Uni type by name calling. Sometimes you feel ashamed to have the same passport colour. When will these silly girls grow up and gain some gravitas. *For clarity, this is a reference to waves. Not gammon.
The Guardian is going to town: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com...
nadger said:
The leaders of the ERG refer to themselves as the Grand Wizards, so in their eyes probably no!
IIRC all 28 EU commissioners are white....... and only a couple of the 751 MEPs are black... However Goggle tells me there are 46 black members in the House of Representatives and 2 in the Senate. Thorodin said:
Yawn. So predictable. Marina Hyde in the Grauniad, descending to slagging everything the editor doesn't like and reverting to Uni type by name calling. Sometimes you feel ashamed to have the same passport colour. When will these silly girls grow up and gain some gravitas.
True, but like any scatter gun, some of it hits home.Thorodin said:
Farage’s revival is about to throw a massive spanner in.
Far more likely to go off like a damp squib.People are sick of Brexit and everyone with half a brain has realised that the likes of Farage will cut and run the minute things get tough... Like he and Boris did the after the referendum.
Brexit is turning out like Communism. It keeps failing but it's retarded fanboys keep saying "but if we do it right THIS time it'll work" without realising the idea is inherently doomed to failure.
Mr Whippy said:
I want the UK to join the USA.
I know you're being sarcastic... but sometimes sarcasm is closer to the truth than people are comfortable with.Outside the EU, the UK/US power balance will tilt in the favour of the US. Heavily. Brexiteer morons speak of a "dictator" in Brussels, they clearly don't know what one is, let alone have met the one from Washington.
The US will introduce it's laws into the UK by means of trade treaties. Unlike the EU, we won't get a say in their formation and parliament won't even get the opportunity to discuss them, let alone veto them. I've seen this happen to multiple countries where the US holds sway.
wc98 said:
the shortsightedness of parliament is incredible. i am sure they really all did think it would just go away if they could stall leaving long enough. given fixed term parliaments any new party has plenty time for fundraising and organisation to make sure they have a meaningful presence come election time. politics has never been so interesting Edited by Thorodin on Friday 12th April 21:25
alfie2244 said:
nadger said:
The leaders of the ERG refer to themselves as the Grand Wizards, so in their eyes probably no!
IIRC all 28 EU commissioners are white....... and only a couple of the 751 MEPs are black... However Goggle tells me there are 46 black members in the House of Representatives and 2 in the Senate. captain_cynic said:
I know you're being sarcastic... but sometimes sarcasm is closer to the truth than people are comfortable with.
Outside the EU, the UK/US power balance will tilt in the favour of the US. Heavily. Brexiteer morons speak of a "dictator" in Brussels, they clearly don't know what one is, let alone have met the one from Washington.
The US will introduce it's laws into the UK by means of trade treaties. Unlike the EU, we won't get a say in their formation and parliament won't even get the opportunity to discuss them, let alone veto them. I've seen this happen to multiple countries where the US holds sway.
Keep it up, same as 2016 you never learn.Outside the EU, the UK/US power balance will tilt in the favour of the US. Heavily. Brexiteer morons speak of a "dictator" in Brussels, they clearly don't know what one is, let alone have met the one from Washington.
The US will introduce it's laws into the UK by means of trade treaties. Unlike the EU, we won't get a say in their formation and parliament won't even get the opportunity to discuss them, let alone veto them. I've seen this happen to multiple countries where the US holds sway.
survivalist said:
Interesting, but also damaging. An alternative viewpoint would be the reason that parliament is in such turmoil is because the voting element of the electorate is so evenly split. I know that those who want to leave trumpet the ‘victory’ but the reality is it just reveals the split in the country.
In reality a repeated failing of governments to address social and economic issues, leading to a very uneven distribution of wealth. You can blame it on the EU, but in reality it’s a combination of capitalism and globalisation.
Not sure how backing Farage as an MEP will help, but sure that there will be a huge amount of vitriol and identification of a common enemy that will make certain types feel better.
No, it really is parliament versus the people. In reality a repeated failing of governments to address social and economic issues, leading to a very uneven distribution of wealth. You can blame it on the EU, but in reality it’s a combination of capitalism and globalisation.
Not sure how backing Farage as an MEP will help, but sure that there will be a huge amount of vitriol and identification of a common enemy that will make certain types feel better.
No party has ever achieved anything like 52% or 17.4 million votes in an election. Blair achieved 43% and 11 million in his landslide 1997 victory. Even taking only Tory and Labour it was well under 60%. About 58/42.
The status quo, backed by a successful government one year into its term in times of economic growth really should have got 60% plus vote to Remain.
It's not something you will fix by subsidising rural broadband and completing the Skegness bypass. People don't want to be ruled by unelected politicians committed to a European union. They voted against it in astonishing numbers which dwarf any general election victory in modern times, and are being betrayed utterly and completely by a political class who think they know best while very publicly proving otherwise at every opportunity.
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